That's not possible. It would be a hard brexshit. You do rralise that a fsiled hard Tory brexshit will just mean we rejoin sooner? There is no future outside the EU. The UK would have to rejoin at some point and in some capacity anyway.

 

 

 

Once we leave I honestly can't see us ever re-joining.

Why did you ignore my post? Do you not like facts? Do you not want to admit they are lying to you?

 

When December 2020 is ambitious by the Government’s own admission, July certainly is not a consideration! You are being played like a puppet.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/b5be23ba-19d0-11...df-cc63de1d73f4

 

“The Dexeu document, circulated last week to senior officials in Whitehall, said: “Delivery of the required infrastructure, associated systems, and staffing to implement the requirements of the protocol by December 2020 represents a major strategic, political and operational challenge.”“

 

Why did you ignore my post? Do you not like facts? Do you not want to admit they are lying to you?

 

 

I didn't ignore it. I had nothing to add.

I didn't ignore it. I had nothing to add.

Well I hope that means you don't parrot any lies that Brexit will be done anytime soon and certainly not by December 2020 at the very very earliest.

Well I hope that means you don't parrot any lies that Brexit will be done anytime soon and certainly not by December 2020 at the very very earliest.

 

 

Some trade deals, if not all, will be signed by then even by the summer. Do you not agree?

No, I really really do not agree it will be sorted by December 2020.

No, I really really do not agree it will be sorted by December 2020.

 

 

I didn't say that. I said some, many deals maybe, will have been signed but maybe not all.

Survation have confirmed they will have one more poll out before the election and Ipsos MORI have another one due for Wednesday as well. Polls are due from You Gov, ComRes, ICM and Kantar in any event before Thursday. Plus the You Gov MRP update on Tuesday at 10pm.

 

Westminster voting intention:

 

CON: 42% (-)

LAB: 36% (+1)

LDEM: 12% (-1)

BREX: 3% (-)

 

via @ICMResearch, 06 - 09 Dec

Chgs. w/ 02 Dec

Tories 319 seats on the above figures, 322 is probably a majority so Labour are going to need a bit more than the SNP to form a coalition.

 

It could be that Johnson resigns and they then offer the Lib Dems a referendum in return for confidence and supply.

 

One thing is for sure, Survation and ICM can't both be right.

I've settled on Labour. My heart isn't really with them but I don't think the other options stand any chance so that'll be it.

 

Saying that, our seat will definitely be a Tory one.

Some trade deals, if not all, will be signed by then even by the summer. Do you not agree?

Maybe so, but we don't do a lot of trade with the Faroe Isles.

Tories 319 seats on the above figures, 322 is probably a majority so Labour are going to need a bit more than the SNP to form a coalition.

 

It could be that Johnson resigns and they then offer the Lib Dems a referendum in return for confidence and supply.

 

One thing is for sure, Survation and ICM can't both be right.

 

Bojo will never resign. He's obsessed with power, just like the rest of the tories. He believes he is special and was born to rule.

Bojo will never resign. He's obsessed with power, just like the rest of the tories. He believes he is special and was born to rule.

 

 

What if Swinson would only support them if he wasn't PM? They may force him out rather than let Corbyn in.

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What if Swinson would only support them if he wasn't PM? They may force him out rather than let Corbyn in.

They'd have to agree, at the very least, to another EU referendum. Even if they did that, I can't see the members supporting a deal with any Tory leader unless it was as part of some sort of Government of National Unity, i.e. with Labour members as well.

Debate on BBC1 now with all questioners being under 30.

From The Sun. JEREMY Corbyn is the most dangerous man ever to stand for high office in Britain.

 

He is a mortal threat to our economy, jobs and security and will ensure the Brexit you voted for is reversed.

 

The Sun urges you today: Use your vote to stop him.

 

If Corbyn somehow takes power his impact on our global standing would be immediate and disastrous.

 

Trust in Britain would vanish the instant a known terrorist sympathiser and infamous anti-Semite became PM.

 

Then there’s the lunacy of his domestic agenda.

 

To raise the eye-watering £83billion needed to implement its manifesto pledges, Labour would raid the pockets of ordinary people and seize the assets of private companies. And the costs NOT in the manifesto are vast.

 

Workers would feel the pain immediately. And within months — as businesses fled for more benign regimes abroad, taking jobs and investment with them — things would get far worse.

 

That’s before we even get to Brexit. Corbyn has seduced Remainers with a second referendum. But his betrayal of 17.4million Leavers could barely be more blatant.

 

This referendum would pitch some new surrender treaty — keeping us in the EU’s customs union and single market — against Remaining in full.

 

That’s a shameless stitch-up. And to absolutely guarantee a Remain result Corbyn has promised children and EU migrants will be able to vote.

 

Then he would allow the Scots a new independence poll only the SNP wants.

 

Incredibly, his Venezuelan-style economic policies and rigged referendums might be the least of our problems.

 

Within hours of occupying Downing Street, Corbyn would be gearing up to destroy Nato and sever our ties with the US. He detests both — as four decades of his ranting speeches to thousands of hard-left cranks prove.

 

Do not kid yourself this is a normal election. The Corbyn nightmare is infinitely worse and more extreme than anything ever offered up by Ed Miliband or Neil Kinnock. You can read all about it on Pages 5-7.

 

And it may be only a whisker away.

 

 

From The Sun.

 

JEREMY Corbyn is the most dangerous man ever to stand for high office in Britain.

 

He is a mortal threat to our economy, jobs and security and will ensure the Brexit you voted for is reversed.

 

The Sun urges you today: Use your vote to stop him.

 

If Corbyn somehow takes power his impact on our global standing would be immediate and disastrous.

 

Trust in Britain would vanish the instant a known terrorist sympathiser and infamous anti-Semite became PM.

 

Then there’s the lunacy of his domestic agenda.

 

To raise the eye-watering £83 billion needed to implement its manifesto pledges, Labour would raid the pockets of ordinary people and seize the assets of private companies. And the costs NOT in the manifesto are vast.

 

Workers would feel the pain immediately. And within months — as businesses fled for more benign regimes abroad, taking jobs and investment with them — things would get far worse.

 

That’s before we even get to Brexit. Corbyn has seduced Remainers with a second referendum. But his betrayal of 17.4million Leavers could barely be more blatant.

 

This referendum would pitch some new surrender treaty — keeping us in the EU’s customs union and single market — against Remaining in full.

 

That’s a shameless stitch-up. And to absolutely guarantee a Remain result Corbyn has promised children and EU migrants will be able to vote.

 

Then he would allow the Scots a new independence poll only the SNP wants.

 

Incredibly, his Venezuelan-style economic policies and rigged referendums might be the least of our problems.

 

Within hours of occupying Downing Street, Corbyn would be gearing up to destroy Nato and sever our ties with the US. He detests both — as four decades of his ranting speeches to thousands of hard-left cranks prove.

 

Do not kid yourself this is a normal election. The Corbyn nightmare is infinitely worse and more extreme than anything ever offered up by Ed Miliband or Neil Kinnock. You can read all about it on Pages 5-7.

 

And it may be only a whisker away.

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They don't mince their words do they? They used to say "it's the Sun wot won it".

Edited December 9, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Labour for me