The precise taxonomy of racists is not really a relevant rabbithole

 

Not here perhaps, but IMO it does need discussing, because ATM it feels like the definition has become absurdly wide - basically including anyone who questions the 'progressive/PC' agenda. :unsure:

Richard Burgon has announced he's standing for Deputy Leader. My condolences to every member of the Labour Party.

Richard Burgon has announced he's standing for Deputy Leader. My condolences to every member of the Labour Party.

 

Never heard of him.

In fairness he's a prominent human rights lawyer.

Never heard of him.

Richard Burgon was the Labour representative on the Question Time panel when an audience member was denouncing the party's income tax policy. He claimed that his £80K salary didn't even put him in the top 50% of earners let alone the top 5%. Poor Burgon simply didn't seem to know how to respond to such complete ignorance.

Richard Burgon was the Labour representative on the Question Time panel when an audience member was denouncing the party's income tax policy. He claimed that his £80K salary didn't even put him in the top 50% of earners let alone the top 5%. Poor Burgon simply didn't seem to know how to respond to such complete ignorance.

 

Yeah remember that very well. Only a few weeks ago actually.

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Keir Starmer the favourite at the moment. Although at this point a poll like this is more "name a Labour MP that you've heard of", at least until the nominations close and the hustings begin. And don't forget that this early in the 2015 leadership contest Jeremy Corbyn was somewhere between a rank outsider and unheard of.

Richard Burgon was the Labour representative on the Question Time panel when an audience member was denouncing the party's income tax policy. He claimed that his £80K salary didn't even put him in the top 50% of earners let alone the top 5%. Poor Burgon simply didn't seem to know how to respond to such complete ignorance.

 

Thankfully a member of the audience ridiculed the idiot QT member to make him look the fool he is.

I'd take Starmer at the moment even though he's a blairite figure, he would be a decent leader imo!

I'd take Starmer at the moment even though he's a blairite figure, he would be a decent leader imo!

 

 

Have a feeling it will be him actually.

I would like it to be a woman but has to be the *right* woman candidate!

Keir Starmer has opened up a solid lead over his rivals in the race to succeed Jeremy Corbyn, according to the first poll of Labour members seen by Sky News.

 

The Shadow Brexit Secretary beats Rebecca Long-Bailey, the shadow business secretary and favourite of many of those around Mr Corbyn, with Jess Phillips in third place.

 

YouGov polled 1,059 Labour members for the Economic and Social Research Council's Party Members Project who they'd vote for in the last 10 days of December.

 

The Labour members were asked to list the likely contenders in terms of their order of preference, as they will be when they vote.

 

Labour party membership, first preference for leader:

 

Keir Starmer - 31%

Rebecca Long Bailey - 20%

Jess Phillips - 11%

Yvette Cooper - 7%

Clive Lewis - 7%

Emily Thornberry - 6%

Lisa Nandy - 5%

 

Once it goes down to a head to head between Long-Bailey and Starmer, Keir leads on 61-39.

Here a caller to LBC says why he thinks Dianne Abbott should be next leader despite her few mathematical problems that can happen to anyone. No-one seems to know if he was being serious or on a wind-up.

 

Here a caller to LBC says why he thinks Dianne Abbott should be next leader despite her few mathematical problems that can happen to anyone. No-one seems to know if he was being serious or on a wind-up.

 

 

It's gotta be a wind-up! :o

It's gotta be a wind-up! :o

 

 

Am not sure. He sounds pretty serious to me.

 

He seems to think she wants to stand too but others are holding her back. :D

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Stop being tiresome. She's already declined to run.

 

In reality, Long-Bailey vs Starmer. I suspect that's a reasonably accurate poll.

 

I think Starmer has a better chance than most of the non-Corbynite crowd at averting a left meltdown and split, and if chosen he should build a shadow cabinet from across the party. I think if he comes out of this leadership election as a comfortable but not dominant winner over RLB, and then offers her a prominent position within the shadow cabinet, there is hope. Labour infighting needs to be gone.

I think Starmer has a better chance than most of the non-Corbynite crowd at averting a left meltdown and split, and if chosen he should build a shadow cabinet from across the party. I think if he comes out of this leadership election as a comfortable but not dominant winner over RLB, and then offers her a prominent position within the shadow cabinet, there is hope. Labour infighting needs to be gone.

 

 

I think he'd offer her Shadow Chancellor which is as high profile as you can get.

Lisa Nandy and Jess Phillips have both formally entered the contest.

Interesting that Lisa Nandy announced her intention to enter the race through an letter to the Wigan Post, rather than The Guardian or Channel 4 like other candidates. She's obviously setting up her stall as the Northern towns candidate, and getting the optics primed from the get-go.

Honestly never heard of her.