i never realised Trump was even that egotistical to also try running for the Democrats against himself

 

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MICHIGAN WH'2020 poll (Quinnipiac):

Sanders 48

Trump 43

 

Bloomberg 47

Trump 42

 

Biden 47

Trump 43

 

Warren 45

Trump 43

 

Buttigieg 45

Trump 44

 

Klobuchar 45

Trump 44

 

That is one poll. Others havr a 1%!!! gap. Obviously campaigning hasn't properly started yet and Bernie does the best in Wisconsin. Texas is also trending blue. It might be a case of losing Wisconsin and gaining Texas

 

And nope - although maybe I should get a Bernie t shirt for summer!!

 

And nope - although maybe I should get a Bernie t shirt for summer!!

 

 

You should. Plenty on Ebay. :D

Edited February 21, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

I agree with people on other forums and in the US press who say that the only person who would definitely beat Trump would be Michele Obama. Black female with the surname Obama could give them a landslide but she's shown no interest in standing.

Nevada results starting to come in now with Bernie having a lead over Biden who really needs to come second if he's still to have any chance going forward.

But can we really call Bernie the frontrunner? After all he's only winning the popular vote, the delegate count, the predicted matchups in both future primaries and the general and the hearts of millions of Americans. The Democrats need to be thinking about how to stop this.

 

the media are ghouls. Very hard for them to downplay this though. It's not a close victory like it was in the first two states, there's only a few reporting but the result's not in doubt, he currently has over 50% of the vote!

But can we really call Bernie the frontrunner? After all he's only winning the popular vote, the delegate count, the predicted matchups in both future primaries and the general and the hearts of millions of Americans. The Democrats need to be thinking about how to stop this.

 

 

Why? I keep reading "stop Bernie by any means foul or fair" If he wins the nomination fairly and squarely why shouldn't he be the one to face Trump in November? He's obviously more popular than Biden and the others so let him have his year. Can't see him beating Trump though and he'll be too old to ever stand again.

Reports that Sanders is to be given full Secret Service protection now as he's looking like the front-runner and because of all the Stop Bernie calls. Maybe they're thinking it only takes one nutter with a gun who believes he shouldn't get the nomination. Usually it's only when the nominee is confirmed that he/she is given a 24 hour armed SS team. Obamas got it much earlier though and Clinton already had it for life as an ex First Lady.

Edited February 23, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

That's the correct answer. I was doing a sarcastic impression of MSNBC/CNN news anchors/Democratic establishment heads who seem barely able to contain their dismay that a candidate leading a popular revolution and getting people excited to turn out for their party is looking like their next presidential candidate.

That's the correct answer. I was doing a sarcastic impression of MSNBC/CNN news anchors/Democratic establishment heads who seem barely able to contain their dismay that a candidate leading a popular revolution and getting people excited to turn out for their party is looking like their next presidential candidate.

 

 

Oh your sarcasm was lost on me. Of course he should be the nominee if he has the votes and delegates.

What’s this crazy fascination with age?! Have you met some 80 year olds? My grandma at 82 was more active than an average 30 year old and she didn’t even have access to presidential level health f***ing care.

What’s this crazy fascination with age?! Have you met some 80 year olds? My grandma at 82 was more active than an average 30 year old and she didn’t even have access to presidential level health f***ing care.

 

 

I have no crazy fascination, as you put it, with age, but the general opinion is that someone over 80 is too old to run for President.

The general opinion is that Trump is a clueless orange thing but he’s still the president somehow

These Nevada results *.* Buttigieg is currently only barely above the 15% threshold to win any statewide delegates, hopefully he'll end up dropping below that.

I agree with people on other forums and in the US press who say that the only person who would definitely beat Trump would be Michele Obama. Black female with the surname Obama could give them a landslide but she's shown no interest in standing.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

You really think America is ready for a woman of color to be president?!!! :lol:

 

No darling, I've been here only 6 years but enough for me to see the true colors of average white americans...it's sad.

You're kidding, right?

 

You really think America is ready for a woman of color to be president?!!! :lol:

 

No darling, I've been here only 6 years but enough for me to see the true colors of average white americans...it's sad.

 

 

Yes I think she'd win a huge landslide. A few decades ago you'd never envisage a man of colour winning.

 

Warren's rep. at the recent caucus stood up and caused uproar when he said that Buttigieg has no chance of becoming President as he's gay.

Edited February 23, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

You're far underestimating the American disdain for political dynasties. There are more than four families in the USA and it's not supposed to be an oligarchy. Plus it would be nice if the first woman president wasn't connected to a man who'd gotten there first, it's a little bit bad optics.

 

Anyway, been both enjoying Sanders' total dominance and the scrambling of 'reasonable centrists' to start talking him down. No other campaign can claim anything other than a total failure from Nevada and weird things like Buttigieg's ramblings about a story of a power cut aren't going to do it.

 

I really do think that Bernie would win the general quite easily. Trump's so clearly running scared.

Crushed it.

I really do think that Bernie would win the general quite easily. Trump's so clearly running scared.

 

 

If he did win it wouldn't be easy. You're underestimating encumbency, a good economy and the Republicans being a very rich machine ready to fight tooth and nail.

If he did win it wouldn't be easy. You're underestimating encumbency, a good economy and the Republicans being a very rich machine ready to fight tooth and nail.

A good economy based on a decent inheritance from Obama (who had inherited a mess from Bush) and a massive increase in debt. Trump has done the usual Republican thing by cutting taxes (mostly for the rich) and increasing spending. As ever, a Democrat will be left to reduce the deficit starting either in January 2021 or 2025.