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    I think like Iz says, there's a real opportunity for the UK here. Clearly we have a special relationship with the US and I do think Trump at least respects us and craves the value and probably Starmer

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    Just watched it. Its like 2 mobsters attacking a helpless shopkeeper. Pair of bullying c**ts. Im going to repeat that because no other word will do. c**ts. Extorting the victims of a democracy invaded

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45 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

Parties won’t have agreed to a ceasefire without some kind of concessions.

Could be that they are testing Russia's supposed willingness. Not likely with the direction of travel but a pause in the fighting to bring things together...

Putin somewhat agrees with the ceasefire on the condition it leads to lasting peace and not a chance for Ukraine to regroup. So whether it actually comes to fruition is still up in the air

Hard to say how it will go with the White House being an unpredictable force here - but that's definitely a rejection of the current peace plan and pushing the US to return with something more favourable to Russia. Layered in his actions and words is the idea that it doesn't fulfil the Russian vision of why he started the war in the first place.

Which is to say that the US is going to find negotiations very difficult if they don't give everything to Russia (which they should not do, to be clear).

On 13/03/2025 at 17:19, Iz 🌟 said:

Hard to say how it will go with the White House being an unpredictable force here - but that's definitely a rejection of the current peace plan and pushing the US to return with something more favourable to Russia. Layered in his actions and words is the idea that it doesn't fulfil the Russian vision of why he started the war in the first place.

Which is to say that the US is going to find negotiations very difficult if they don't give everything to Russia (which they should not do, to be clear).

I think today has shown that countless American administrations can't handle Putin. Not sure which way this one goes, expect Trump probably getting bored and changing the subject and giving up. The temporary ceasefire on energy infastructure is absolutely useless. Russia would be giving up on hitting that in a few weeks regardless after the winter.

17 hours ago, Rooney said:

I think today has shown that countless American administrations can't handle Putin. Not sure which way this one goes, expect Trump probably getting bored and changing the subject and giving up. The temporary ceasefire on energy infastructure is absolutely useless. Russia would be giving up on hitting that in a few weeks regardless after the winter.

They broke it within one hour, right? Trump is Putin's puppet.

  • 1 month later...

Artifice. It pretends to have a ceasefire, which it then materially violates, to then bend the ear of weak, wobbly, Manchurian Trump.

Seems like they’ve signed the rare mineral deal. They could regret that one

17 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

Why you reackon they would regret it?

They made a deal before if they got rid of their nukes the US would guarantee security then suddenly it became conditional. Also I wouldn’t be incentivising the US famous for warmongering and weapon manufacturers to exchange weapons for natural resources as there will always be an excuse for more weapons in that case.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Zelensky offers to meet Putin after Trump demands Ukraine...

"I will be waiting for Putin in Türkiye on Thursday. Personally," the Ukrainian leader says after Trump urged him to "have the meeting, now!"

Will be hard for either side to pull out of such talks now. Putin proposed it and Zelenskyy initially said he’d meet if a ceasefire happened first but now says he’ll meet this Thursday in Istanbul regardless. So that will be the first face to face in a long long time

All I can think of is the poisoned diplomats that have met Russia... He should be very careful, wear gloves, have security, take his own food and drink. Putin is a bad faith actor.

Lol I was naive for thinking it would happen. Russia has pulled our. They probably did it as propaganda for Trump, expecting Ukraine not to agree.

13 minutes ago, May Day Pole Dancer said:

Lol I was naive for thinking it would happen. Russia has pulled our. They probably did it as propaganda for Trump, expecting Ukraine not to agree.

Where did you see that?

15 minutes ago, May Day Pole Dancer said:

Reported by NRK

Yeah it seems Putin’s side are claiming they meant talks between negotiators and for him to talk directly would need more planning and security. Oh well seemed too good to be true

Same old Putin, always moving goalposts. The trumps of the world will fall for it as per usual

Russia don’t want peace, they don’t want to end the war, they want to destroy Ukraine. Let’s not forget Russia can end the war any time they want to by f***ing off and leaving the country they illegally f***ing invaded.

It's not a war that's the point, it's an invasion by Russia, an illegal invasion that the world sits by and watched... just like Israel with Palestine. Sickening. 😩

I always thought when I heard this news at the weekend I would be hugely surprised if Putin went and met Zelenskyy face to face, it was always going to be diplomats or Lavrov et Al!

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