ACR will actually slow a decline after the transitional collapse happens, as the song will now need to lose 2 week on week streams to make the same decline a song on SCR does for losing 1 stream.

Edited May 26, 20205 yr by Dircadirca

So if it is already in ACR why is it not dropping more places each week? I just don’t understand the ACR rules properly.

ACR halves a song's streaming, but it's just a one-off change (from 1:100 to 1:200 for premium streams, 1:600 to 1:1200 for ad-funded streams, and I can't remember if YouTube is the same or double that); it doesn't keep increasing the ratio thereafter.

 

So 'Dance Monkey' had an abrupt fall from #1 to #10 when it hit ACR, but then its ratio has remained the same since. Essentially, it's been circling around #15-#20 instead of perhaps #5-#15 if it was on SCR. It can't actually drop further until it drops further on streaming.

 

That's the effect ACR tends to serve for big hits that fall really gradually - they end up treading water 10-20 spots lower than they would otherwise, but it can't make them actually go away.

Thanks Dobbo, Bjork, Dircadirca and Rush for explaining. I get it now.

 

This suggests that Dance Monkey will remain in the charts as long as streaming figures remain high and I guess that means partially that it remains in popular streaming playlists too. TikTok may also be responsible for its continued popularity? I guess it wouldn’t be too surprising to see it hanging around the charts until the end of 2020 in this case, especially if it remains one of the most popular songs of 2020 (despite it’s release in 2019).

 

Definitely it is a song which fits the criteria of this thread title.

I think the OCC really needs to consider making a Recurrent Chart and move songs there after a while like the US does

cos ACR just takes the song out of the top 10 but not off the charts

thats why there should be a recurrent songs rule like in the US charts just to clean up some of the long staying songs from the chart and making way for new ones...

thats why there should be a recurrent songs rule like in the US charts just to clean up some of the long staying songs from the chart and making way for new ones...

 

 

oh no please no more exclusions.....

 

 

I wish they do sth else for the charts to look like those in mid and late 90s where even #1 were lucky to stay 10 weeks in the charts

if the rules stay as there are there's a big chance Dance Monkey will just become the Perfect of 2021 as it'll be easier for it to get the post-Christmas reset now that it's lower down the chart.

 

I really think there needs to be some recurrence rules put in place too, the Perfect situation must be making the OCC think about it at least..

That feels like fair retribution if anything after Dance Monkey was one of very few songs *not* to be reset after Christmas (which could be argued is only because proportional gain requirements don't really do justice to the post-Christmas reflux).

Anything by Ed Sheeran

Yes, Make It Rain really did outstay its welcome!

Tones avoiding being reset after Xmas 2019 but then doing so after Xmas 2020 would be peak OCC.

I really think there needs to be some recurrence rules put in place too, the Perfect situation must be making the OCC think about it at least..

 

agree. the charts should be about what people are currently actively downloading or streaming, not the product of some random playlists which mostly tend to include the same songs by the same artists....