Oops. If that’s the case we could get a top 5 debut followed by a big drop followed by a big climb then another big drop :lol:

Yep delayed until 28th August due to "production delays"? Mess.

This might actually help her get a better peak position tbh! Gives an extra two weeks of potential pre orders anyways.

 

She’ll now be competing with Drakes third week on sale if he’s really releasing on the 14th and Taylor’s album would’ve been available on all formats for four weeks by then too.

 

I’m kinda 50/50 on if that’s the real reason it’s been pushed back I was under the impression the albums been completely finished for a while now.

 

 

Surely it’s not been delayed because of the competition? It’s not like it’s going to be a #1 smash anyway?

Nah she wanted it on the 14th because that's when she's due. It was genuinely production issues.

Nah she wanted it on the 14th because that's when she's due. It was genuinely production issues.

Do you know what the production issues were, because they've had this date for ages and i've read on ATRL that copies of the album were already printed so seems odd to suddenly jump into issues (coincidentally around the time Drake's release was heavily rumoured - just to add to the conspiracy theorists!). Many websites (such as Urban Outfitters) have/had the vinyl ready to be shipped from August 14th too, so again it seemed like everything was largely ready!

 

One reason could be due to the Diddy version of the title track and them switching between which to include on the album? Idk~

 

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? Either way, this is shaping up to be an even bigger disaster than Witness was. We have heard 8/16 of the tracks on the deluxe fan album, and she has done HEAPS of live performances and interviews etc, so it's not even like more promo will help.

Do you know what the production issues were, because they've had this date for ages and i've read on ATRL that copies of the album were already printed so seems odd to suddenly jump into issues (coincidentally around the time Drake's release was heavily rumoured - just to add to the conspiracy theorists!). Many websites (such as Urban Outfitters) have/had the vinyl ready to be shipped from August 14th too, so again it seemed like everything was largely ready!

 

One reason could be due to the Diddy version of the title track and them switching between which to include on the album? Idk~

 

@1287637230920642561

 

? Either way, this is shaping up to be an even bigger disaster than Witness was. We have heard 8/16 of the tracks on the deluxe fan album, and she has done HEAPS of live performances and interviews etc, so it's not even like more promo will help.

 

It's actually specifically because of Diddy that there are production issues, some of the vinyls were already manufactured but he (or his people) wants off.

It's actually specifically because of Diddy that there are production issues, some of the vinyls were already manufactured but he (or his people) wants off.

Why does he want off?

Why does he want off?

Well apparently, in the lyrics to the original version of the song they say "n*****" so I don't think it's just Diddy that now wants out :manson:

 

https://genius.com/Katy-perry-smile-original-version-lyrics / https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katyperry/smile.html

 

If the above tweet is to be believed, the vinyl still contains this version so I assume they are frantically shredding those copies and making new ones ~

And therefore, not "production issues", but removing racist issues from a song that must have been OK'd initially. :huh:

So that's why there's a gaping hole in Smile where the rap once was and the song goes nowhere. I assume there just wasn't enough time to get something else done in terms of feature. Not that there was much saving that song but i think the rap gave it a bit more life and it brought it from a 5 to a 6/10.

Well apparently, in the lyrics to the original version of the song they say "n*****" so I don't think it's just Diddy that now wants out :manson:

 

https://genius.com/Katy-perry-smile-original-version-lyrics / https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katyperry/smile.html

 

If the above tweet is to be believed, the vinyl still contains this version so I assume they are frantically shredding those copies and making new ones ~

oh dear :blink:

Well apparently, in the lyrics to the original version of the song they say "n*****" so I don't think it's just Diddy that now wants out :manson:

 

https://genius.com/Katy-perry-smile-original-version-lyrics / https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katyperry/smile.html

 

If the above tweet is to be believed, the vinyl still contains this version so I assume they are frantically shredding those copies and making new ones ~

I'm so confused? In those 'original lyrics', only Diddy says that word and unless I'm missing something...loads of rappers do that?

[Verse 3: Diddy & Katy Perry]

I gotta crack a smile, even laugh a while (That's right)

Been through a lot, but I ain't backin' down (Let's go)

See, I came in the game with the flashy style (Woo)

Now I'm looking at the wealth that I'm passin' down

I'ma seen the light, it's a pleasing sight

Girl, we even manifestin' when we sleep at night (Right)

Fell down couple times, now we reachin' heights (Ha)

Yeah, to be precise, I'ma lead the fight (Woo, let's go)

Been appointed, light on your life so anointing

Catch me two-steppin', n****, stressin' is pointless

No need to worry 'cause the truth is here

And I'm smiling, bitch, with my new veneers, yeah (Oh no no no no)

 

I smell BS

I'm so confused? In those 'original lyrics', only Diddy says that word and unless I'm missing something...loads of rappers do that?

I smell BS

Yes, but Katy sings along through that verse with her adlibs. I can hear it in my head now "woooo :)", "n*****", "ooooh yeah :)" Regardless though, it's on a Katy Perry song on a Katy Perry album. You'd be OK with it being said on that? I can't in any way see how it would be a good move for Katy...

Yes, but Katy sings along through that verse with her adlibs. I can hear it in my head now "woooo :)", "n*****", "ooooh yeah :)" Regardless though, it's on a Katy Perry song on a Katy Perry album. You'd be OK with it being said on that? I can't in any way see how it would be a good move for Katy...

But if you read the alleged lyrics you'll see she has no adlibs during that part of the rap:

Been appointed, light on your life so anointing

Catch me two-steppin', n****, stressin' is pointless

No need to worry 'cause the truth is here

 

Wouldn't they just cut that line anyway?

 

I'm sure it probably is wise for them not to have the n-word on her song but I don't get what you're trying to say. The rap isn't on the song, so obviously they realised that it'd be a problem and changed it. It hardly seems a massive deal.

I'm sure it probably is wise for them not to have the n-word on her song but I don't get what you're trying to say. The rap isn't on the song, so obviously they realised that it'd be a problem and changed it. It hardly seems a massive deal.

I am discussing the reason her album has been delayed in a thread for... her album? I am not "trying to say" much more :unsure:

 

Whether you or I think that her having a song with "n*****" on it is ok or not, doesn't really matter because her team clearly thought it was an issue if they have pushed back the entire album because of it and are redistributing the vinyl (if that is the case). Nothing has been confirmed, we are just discussing the reason and 365 has identified the Diddy verse as being that reason.

Fine then.

 

I wouldn't rule out a #1 debut for this, going by his last mixtape Drake's 3rd week won't be that much to compete against. The thing that might stop her getting #1 is actually HRVY's album, ik he's had very little success in the singles chart but the bundle-buying will be off the scale :lol:

The Drake album is an album this time around but I don’t know if we’re looking at a Scorpion type debut or a Dark Lane Demo tapes.

 

Katy could perhaps do similarly to Ellie Goulding’s first week sales?

dk whether anyone’s seen it trending on twitter but Bastille’s website page has just posted and deleted a song “coming soon” called Drunken Hearts with Katy Perry

It was actually more to do with Diddy wanting off, than anything to do with him using the N word on the song.