It’s a throwback bop and it would have sounded fresh in 1999!

It’s a throwback bop and it would have sounded fresh in 1999!

It’s a throwback bop and it would have sounded fresh in 1999!

 

Exactly!!!!! ;) :)

Naaaa.... It would have exactly what Forever did: label them as trying to copying someone else's sound (bloody 5ive's 'sound' lol) now that they 'didnt have Geri there' as if Geri's solo career really gave us any creative highlights to compare to lol

 

It is also terribly written. A lot of those lyrics are terrible, uncooked crap. I know it is a demo and thus it probably would have sound different if it was released but in its demo form, I can see why they chose not to release it.

Edited February 28, 20214 yr by Mr.X

Granted, of course I would have lapped it up back in 1999, but in hindsight, this is not one of the tracks I wish it had been released at all!

TLC and Destiny's Child were big international groups, If you listened to them you would know their sounds and they're far better than the girls on the RnB side. This is the same when I heard something quite similar to the Spice Girls sound, it's bland to me as well. 5ive was not international and their sound wasn't that bad considering it's teen pop music, it's catchy and the girls did it well or even better than them, plus it didn't overshadow the whole album like Darkchild did. About Geri, it's fine if you don't like her solo stuff, she's the weak link as a singer and performer but I love her stuff as a writer and ideas she brought to the group and I also liked some of her solos. They are not perfect on their own, they need each other.

Oh I agree that they are not perfect on their own. All of their solo careers and the quality of the music has shown that very clearly bar some examples - like NS, FM & LIM (bar the bonus tracks!).

 

Hence why they should just focus on the group for a while at least and bring their individual talents together!

 

In terms of the comparison to 5ive - they were HUGE across Europe too and specially in 1999, it would have been big scandal if the Spice Girls were seen to 'copy' their sound just like it was when everyone said they were copying TLC/DC.

 

And again, the content of GYWYW was just a bit too meh and the lyrics embarrassing!

 

ANYWAY LETS STREAM FOREVER AGAIN AND BE HAPPY!!! :cheer: :wub:

 

It would do as a pop album track!

 

Also, I know Channel 5 was known for sex, but it is really weird when VB says, "seeeex?" and the others say, "Spice Girls!" They were neever known for using sex to sell, ever. That's part of what made then difderent ... until Headlines (Telling You All) (Friendship Never Ends).

 

And yes, W.O.M.A.N was a no.1 just waiting to happen! In 1999, that and Pain Proof would have both been pretty bog no.1s, probably aeound the 600k mark in total.

Also, "it's a new generation" for just a fifth terrestrial tv channel :cheeseblock: Iconic!

I honestly wouldn't have said that it was "Five's sound" to be copying, it was just where modern pop had shifted to by 1999.

VB says, "seeeex?" and the others say, "Spice Girls!"

Victoria is not saying that lmao. She says "who said?".

Victoria is not saying that lmao. She says "who said?".

 

All I can hear is, "seeex?"! This is "and I won't energise" getting confused as, "and I won't tell ma dad" by the fanbase, all over again!

All I can hear is, "seeex?"! This is "and I won't energise" getting confused as, "and I won't tell ma dad" by the fanbase, all over again!

 

That is a fresh take on that discourse hun, are you 100% sure you want to bring this up?! This debate often just creates a mess

 

Edited February 28, 20214 yr by Mr.X

TLC and Destiny's Child were big international groups, If you listened to them you would know their sounds and they're far better than the girls on the RnB side. This is the same when I heard something quite similar to the Spice Girls sound, it's bland to me as well. 5ive was not international and their sound wasn't that bad considering it's teen pop music, it's catchy and the girls did it well or even better than them, plus it didn't overshadow the whole album like Darkchild did. About Geri, it's fine if you don't like her solo stuff, she's the weak link as a singer and performer but I love her stuff as a writer and ideas she brought to the group and I also liked some of her solos. They are not perfect on their own, they need each other.

 

Absolutely! She was the creative force behind the band. Without her, they were lost, and it shows.

That is a fresh take on that discourse hun, are you 100% sure you want to bring this up?! This debate often just creates a mess

 

 

This again!!!

 

The lyric IS, "and I won't energise". Look at her in the wind tunnel, refusing to beam up to the ship. It is a futuristic pyramid, after all, and there is a mothership spaceship out there above the pyramid. They enter for their trials of love/ fantasy games, but refuse to teleport away. This makes it only one of TWO songs to reference Star Trek to make the charts, and also just one of TWO Star-Trek referencing songs to hit no.1 as well. What other pop band could eeever get away with a Star Trek reference?? It also works to humanise their most otherworldly, mysterious character, the Posh, as she relates to Saturday night tv. It was a genius lyric if you look at it in the context of the futuristic video, the song, the person who sings it, plus the context of the time, which was all about technology and futurism at the turn of the 12th millennium.

 

 

Only Victoria knows the truth about her mysterious lyric and she will never tell us what it is :heart:

 

Only Victoria knows the truth about her mysterious lyric and she will never tell us what it is :heart:

 

Because it's about Star Trek! Voyager was at the peak of its fame back then, but nowadays it is seen as less cool, especially after the Picard fiasco.

I think Give you what you want sounds very dated now but that’s not a bad thing as such and if released as a follow up to Holler in 99 would have been a big hit, I would certainly have lapped it up. I am a fan of Forever it’s a good body of work but it’s my least favourite of the albums due to its lack of diversity, I would have preferred a mix of pop and RnB tracks personally. I wasn’t ready for the big shift in them at the time maybe if they had moved to it more slowly it would have helped.

But in 1999, they could have just released W.O.M.A.N first and Pain Proof second instead! Give You (What You Want) (Love Thing) would have been fine as the third and last single from a pop third album. They then could have released a fourth rnb/pop one in 2000 with Hollier.

 

I think the covers and solos album showed that they knew they were a flssh in the pan, though, and that the original plan was to always split after the third album.

I’ve no interest in WOMAN it sounded average at the Earl’s Court and the lyrics are naff. Pain proof on the other hand would have been perfect for a more grown up spicy sound mixed in with the likes of Get down with me and Holler. ❤️