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    Btw, just wanted to say thanks to Joseph & Philip for unlimited by pages threads nowadays. So I suppose you have already noted now the Better Man thread is combined and not divided anymore :)

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    Better Man review by Bobby Blakey Throughout the years there have been a ton of biographical films focusing on the careers of musicians and bands. Within them there are a select few that took a more

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Oh, just read some message from one American guy that they needed to put Candy song into US trailer.

 

Yes! Fully agree.

This is a mistake from mgmt.

 

Especially due the fact Candy was used into the movie (10-15 sec) as you remember.

Oh, just read some message from one American guy that they needed to put Candy song into US trailer.

 

Yes! Fully agree.

This is a mistake from mgmt.

 

Especially due the fact Candy was used into the movie (10-15 sec) as you remember.

 

 

I agree & from talking to people a lot say that they found the trailers misleading . It's still a great movie.

 

There are so many reviews & videos to catch up on , I am still reading through them ....

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Op-Ed: ‘Better Man:’ Worthy of a Better Box Office?

 

By Amit Sewnauth on February 1, 2025

 

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A young Robbie Williams sits by his family’s television set, singing along to Frank Sinatra’s performance of “My Way.” His father joins in, using a beer bottle as a microphone.

 

As they sit closer to the screen, Williams’ father points to Sinatra and says, “You can’t learn it. You’re either born with it, or you’re a nobody.” Robbie’s face drops. The father and son chorus resumes but is cut short when Williams accidentally knocks the TV antenna. As his father rushes to fix it, a disappointed Williams is called away by his grandmother.

 

‘Better Man’ centers on the life and career of British popstar Robbie Williams. The musical biopic debuted in the U.S. earlier this month. Despite receiving an 88 percent critic score and a 90 percent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, the film has floundered at the box office and is struggling to recover its $110 million budget.

 

When I watched the film, just a few days after its release, there were fewer than a dozen people in the theater. One person left during the second act. Though many Americans are not familiar with Williams (I was not either before watching the film), there had to be other factors contributing to lackluster ticket sales.

 

Notably, there’s the bizarre decision to depict Williams as a CGI chimpanzee throughout the film. This likely alienated many viewers and added another layer of strangeness to a story that was already unfamiliar to most American audiences. If you were not interested in watching a film about a musician you had little knowledge of, seeing him portrayed as a chimpanzee was probably not going to change your mind.

 

Williams’s appearance as an ape reflects the way he views himself and his role as a performer. This works well within the film, as Williams is always distinct from every other character. Still, the merging of a musical biopic with animation resembling “Planet of the Apes” seems to have resulted in a product that was too absurd to capture the interest of the average moviegoer.

 

Those of us who did watch “Better Man” were treated to an intense, emotional spectacle that provides a deep dive into the consequences of pursuing fame. Aside from its lack of commercial success, the film succeeds in pushing the boundaries of what a musical biopic can be.

 

Williams voices himself, recreating vulnerable moments from his life, including his first audition, break-up with pop group Take That, battle with substance abuse, and strained relationship with singer Nicole Appleton. During concerts, he struggles to overcome voices of self-doubt that have haunted him throughout his career.

 

Biopics are often criticized for oversimplifying their subjects or for giving an inaccurate depiction of real-world events. “Better Man” avoids this by fully embracing the artist’s perspective, prioritizing Williams’s emotional state throughout the film over a purely realistic, “documentary-like” approach.

 

Though “Better Man” is not everyone’s cup of tea, it’s refreshing to see a musical biopic that takes risks, throws audiences into the artist’s inner world, and broadens the scope of the genre.

 

 

https://www.thesandspur.org/op-ed-better-ma...ter-box-office/

Edited by Sydney11

07.02.25 update

 

All Awards Wins (10) & Nominations (46) for Better Man by far:

 

Hollywood Music In Media Awards (HMMA) 2024
- 20.11

- Best Original Song - Feature Film (Robbie Williams - Forbidden Road)

- Best Music Themed Film, Biopic or Musical (Paul Currie, Michael Gracey, Craig McMahon, Coco Xiaolu, MaJules Daly)

 

Rolling Stone UK Awards 2024
- 28.11

- The Film Award (Better Man) -
Winner

 

Washington DC Area Film Critics Association Awards (WAFCA) 2024
- 08.12

- Best Motion Capture (Jonno Davies)

 

Indiana Film Journalists Association (IFJA) Awards 2024
- 16.12

- Best Vocal/Motion Capture Performance (Robbie Williams, Jonno Davies)

- Best Stunt/Movement Choreography (Slavisa Ivanovic, Ashey Wallen, Nicholas Daines, Spencer Susser, Tim Wong)

- Best Special Effects (Luke Millar, Scott MacIntyre)

- Original Vision Award

 

Critics Association of Central Florida Awards
- 02.01

- Best Hybrid Performance (Robbie Williams, Jonno Davies)

 

DiscussingFilm Global Critic Award (DFGFCA) 2024
- 04.01

- Best Visual Effects

 

Golden Globes 2025
- 05.01

- Best Original Song (Robbie Williams - Forbidden Road)

 

Utah Film Critics Association (UFCA) Awards
- 06.01

- Best Visual Effects

 

Austin Film Critics Association (AFCA) Awards
- 06.01

- Best Voice Acting/Animated/Digital Performance (Robbie Williams, Jonno Davies)

 

Critics Choice Awards 2025
- 12.01

- Best Visual Effects (Luke Millar, David Clayton, Keith Herft, Peter Stubbs)

 

The Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts (AACTA) Awards 2025
- 07.02

- Best Film -
Winner

- Best Direction in Film (Michael Gracey) -
Winner

- Best Screenplay in Film (Michael Gracey, Oliver Cole, Simon Gleeson) -
Winner

- Best Lead Actor in Film (Jonno Davies) -
Winner

- Best Supporting Actress in Film (Alison Steadman)

- Best Supporting Actor in Film (Damon Herriman) -
Winner

- Best Cinematography in Film

- Best Sound in Film

- Best Original Score in Film -
Winner

- Best Soundtrack

- Best Original Song (Robbie Williams - Forbidden Road)

- Best Visual Effects or Animation -
Winner

- Best Editing in Film presented by Spectrum Films -
Winner

- Best Production Design in Film

- Best Costume Design in Film

- Best Casting in Film -
Winner

 

The Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts (AACTA) International Awards 2025
- 07.02

- Best Film

- Best Lead Actor in Film (Jonno Davies)

- Best Supporting Actress in Film (Alison Steadman)

- Best Supporting Actor in Film (Damon Herriman)

- Best Direction in Film (Michael Gracey)

- Best Screenplay in Film (Michael Gracey, Oliver Cole, Simon Gleeson)

 

Annie Awards 2025
- 08.02

- Outstanding Achievement for Character Animation in a Live Action Production (Shaun Freeman, Luisma Lavin Peredo, Carlos Lin, Seoungseok Charlie Kim, Kaori Miyazawa)

 

Visual Effects Society Awards
- 11.02

- Outstanding Visual Effects In a Photoreal Feature (Luke Millar, Andy Taylor, David Clayton, Keith Herft, Peter Stubbs)

- Outstanding Character In a Photoreal Feature (Robbie Williams)

- Outstanding CG Cinematography (Blair Burke, Shweta Bhatnagar, Tim Walker, Craig Young)

- Outstanding Composing & Lightning In a Feature (Mark McNicholl, Gordon Spencer de Haseth, Eva Snyder, Markus Reithoffer)

 

Society of Composers and Lyricists (SCL) Award 2025
- 12.02

- Outstanding Original Song for a Comedy or Musical Visual Media Production (Robbie Williams - Forbidden Road)

 

The BAFTA Film Awards
- 16.02

- Special Visual Effects

 

Motion Picture Sound Editors (MPSE)
- 23.02

- Outstanding Achievement in Music Editing – Feature Motion Picture (Supervising Music Editor: Timothy Ryan; Music Editors: Craig Beckett, Lena Glikson, Cory Milano, Liam Moses, Joe E. Rand, Chris Scallan, Emily Rogers Swanson; Vocal Editors: Noah Hubbell, Anna Muehlichen)

 

Guild of Music Supervisors Awards nominations (GMS)
- 23.02

- Best Music Supervision in Major Budget Films (Jordan Carroll)

 

Oscars Academy Awards
- 02.03

- Best Visual Effects (Luke Millar, David Clayton, Keith Herft, Peter Stubbs)

Very interesting video about video effects on a very respectable channel on YT.

Many people are watching this video, it's cool!

 

 

 

Wren and Jallen are joined by VFX Supervisor Luke Millar from Weta FX to break down the visual effects from Oscar nominated "Better Man" and more!

I am reading that the film will be available on Prime this coming week. not in my area it would seem -_-

 

If anyone hears otherwise please let me know ;)

 

Better Man is based on the true story of the meteoric rise, dramatic fall, and remarkable resurgence of British pop superstar Robbie Williams, one of the greatest entertainers of all time. Under the visionary direction of Michael Gracey (The Greatest Showman), the film is uniquely told from Robbie’s perspective, capturing his signature wit and indomitable spirit.

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BTW in this interview Rob says the new album will be out at the end of the year, which sounds more likely to me .

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