official statistics on tv today... 95% of prostitutes do it to feed a drug habit..

 

a drug habit that invariably was CREATED by someone taking advantage of a lonely vunerable young woman... the scene is sick.

 

Maybe in terms of street girls that % is possibly right but among agency/escort girls I would be surprised if it was 5% and there are far more agency/escort girls in the UK than there is street girls

missing the point.... its ABUSE. taking advantage of someone in a much weaker position just isnt right.

 

you are married? would you want your wife to be doing it? your daughter?.. all these girls are somebodies daughter who 99% of the time have had a real tough deal in life.

 

do these girls do it for fun?... do they hell as like, they DESTEST their clients.. and if diy is all thats on offer then thats just tough luck.

 

 

Yes I'm married with an 11 year-old daughter.No I wouldn't want them to do it.What's that got to do with anything though? How come if it's so abhorrant as you claim,that it's legalised in Holland,many other European countries,Thailand etc? You won't change my view anyway and I won't change yours.The local supermarket sells bananas right? If no-one ate or bought them they'd stop selling them,supply and demand.Same analogy.

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Maybe in terms of street girls that % is possibly right but among agency/escort girls I would be surprised if it was 5% and there are far more agency/escort girls in the UK than there is street girls

 

 

is there?... 80,000 street girls in the uk... theres more agency girls?

is there?... 80,000 street girls in the uk... theres more agency girls?

 

Well the agency I used had 160 girls on their books and I would say there are hundreds even thousands of such egencies in this country

Yes I'm married with an 11 year-old daughter.No I wouldn't want them to do it.What's that got to do with anything though? How come if it's so abhorrant as you claim,that it's legalised in Holland,many other European countries,Thailand etc? You won't change my view anyway and I won't change yours.The local supermarket sells bananas right? If no-one ate or bought them they'd stop selling them,supply and demand.Same analogy.

 

 

then why is it ok for OTHER peoples daughters to do it?...

 

i find it abhorrant, for reasons ive clearly cited.. just because its legal in other countries doesnt make it acceptable here! we are supposed to be a civilised society in the 21st centuary i think its time we stopped living in the past and evolved.

 

i fully understand the free market analogy, however again you miss the point that it is still ABUSE.

Well the agency I used had 160 girls on their books and I would say there are hundreds even thousands of such egencies in this country

 

 

i doubt theres more agency then street... but i cant talk about agency girls, i have only information about street girls who are the ones being targeted.

then why is it ok for OTHER peoples daughters to do it?...

 

i find it abhorrant, for reasons ive clearly cited.. just because its legal in other countries doesnt make it acceptable here! we are supposed to be a civilised society in the 21st centuary i think its time we stopped living in the past and evolved.

 

i fully understand the free market analogy, however again you miss the point that it is still ABUSE.

 

 

How is it abuse if they're agreeing to have sex for money though and fully understand what they're doing? It's not like a child being abused is it.You tell me how it's abuse then.

How is it abuse if they're agreeing to have sex for money though and fully understand what they're doing? It's not like a child being abused is it.You tell me how it's abuse then.

 

 

suggest you try READING what ive already put... <_<

these girls are all someones daughters, i wouldnt want my daughter to be treated as a sperm-bag therefore i wont treat someone elses daughter as such. surely thats just common decency.

 

where do you imagine these girls come from?... childrens homes, runnaways, kids who have fallen on hard times. pimps predate on runnaways, on kids from kids homes, on any kid they can feed drugs too.

 

it was common for pimps to befriend these girls, showing them much needed attention, winning their affections... then plying them with drugs until they were dependant, then forcing them into a life of prostitution.

 

this is (simplistically) what lies behind street prossys, not only are they being controled/abused by their pimps, but anyone taking advantage of these girls are as guilty as fcuk of abuse, because take away their drug habit and 95% of street prossys just wouldnt do it.

 

abuse is taking advantage of your superior position to further your own ends at the expense of another person in a weaker position...

Rob,

 

whilst what much of you say is true - I would much rather the streetgirls keep working than unsuspecting girls on the streets getting raped... wouldn't you?

Its terrible and i cannot believe that all this has happened in the space of 12 days its unbelievable and horrid this person who is doing this is seriously a wacko :o :wacko: :angry:

Rob,

 

whilst what much of you say is true - I would much rather the streetgirls keep working than unsuspecting girls on the streets getting raped... wouldn't you?

 

 

it doesnt equate... are you suggesting that all clients are potential rapists? are they that 'ogged up' that they would turn to rape? i think that people that use street girls are pathetic weaklings, not rapists, as rape is an act of violence.

 

is there a marked increase in rape cases in areas/countries where prostitutes dont work?

 

i dont think that rapists are just saddos who cant get it, they are inherantly violent, i dont think that a rapist can be created if it isnt within that person to be that way, and if it is.... then theyd rape anyway!

police up here are investigating a prositute murder from a few years ago to see if theres any link :o

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6175491.stm

In a way, I can see Rob's argument, prostitution in this country is a pretty sleazy, nasty business, but it doesn't actually HAVE to be that way as has been borne out in places like Holland, Germany, certain US states and New Zealand...

 

The way I look at it is, it's the same problem as drugs - you have a criminal underworld basically being allowed to corner the business because of some misplaced sense of 'moral outrage'... I'm sorry, but this 'moral outrage' is creating the problem, keeping it illegal does absolutely nothing to combat the social problems, it does nothing to ensure these women (and let's not forget, the fairly sizeable proportion of MALE prostitutes as well...) are safe... Case in point, the authorities were so efficient in combatting the prostitution problem in Kings Cross that they succeeded in pushing it out into the residential areas of Holloway (Particularly Caledonian Road and Market Road). My Uni had one of its halls of residences on Market Road and some female students were subject to harrassment from kerb crawlers and male students (and their fathers...) were being propositioned by hookers on the streets.. Yeah, bang up job I must say, shoving it from one area - which was a commercial/business/travel area - to a residential one was a fukkin' masterstroke I must say.... <_<

 

I reckon it's about high time we did what they do in Amsterdam, have an area in major cities specifically for that sort of activity, legalise brothels, open it up to health and safety regulations that all businesses are subject to, regular HIV/AIDS testing of the girls (and boys..), regular inspections of premises by local authorities and environmental health officers and most importantly taxation.... How many of these pimps out there are gonna want to open themselves up to that sort of scrutiny, you reckon any of these c/unts are gonna keep books and fill out their VAT and tax returns...? Are they fukk..... It's about time we got over this moral hang-up about prostitution and recognised it and respected it for what it is - the world's oldest profession, instead of sweeping it under the carpet like some sort of dirty little secret... The Red Light district in Amsterdam is just as much a tourist attraction as the Van Gogh museum, no reason why London, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Brighton, etc cant have the same thing going on...

 

As for what's going on in Ipswitch, well this is EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about.. If these women were off the streets and in legal brothels or red light districts and has all these safeguards in place THIS SH!T WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING.... You think this guy just got up one morning and decided "Hmmm, I'm gonna kill me half a dozen prostitutes...". Bollocks.. This is the logical extreme of a pattern of behavioiur which starts with assault and abuse, and possibly rape,... And we ALL know just how seriously the coppers take a prostitute who cries 'rape' dont we...? Not fukkin' seriously AT ALL <_< , which is why very few prostitutes are willing to even talk to the filth if they are raped or assaulted by a punter, because it just wont get taken as seriously as assault or rape on another woman. What we are witnessing in Ipswitch is the ESCALATING actions of a serial killer who has already more than likely committed various violent crimes on prostitutes and each time he's gotten away with something, he notches it up a level....

 

Simply put, I feel that if we had legal brothels and all the safeguards that entails, his actions would've been nipped in the bud at the point of a first assault....

Oh, and by the way, my idea of Legalised Brothels and designated Red Light Districts also comes with a caveat of ZERO TOLERANCE for unlicenced street prostitution in residential areas, a total sweep of all working girls off the streets, and VERY stiff prison sentences for kerb crawlers (10-15 years I'd say is fair..)

it might be the world oldest proffession, but isnt it about time it was consigned to history? like kids sweeping victorian chimneys lol.

it might be the world oldest proffession, but isnt it about time it was consigned to history? like kids sweeping victorian chimneys lol.

 

I've never used prostitutes myself, but I think as long as there are horny blokes who can't get their end away and want a quick easy fix, and women who are prepared to do it for cash there will always be prostitution. So it probably will never go away.

Oh, and by the way, my idea of Legalised Brothels and designated Red Light Districts also comes with a caveat of ZERO TOLERANCE for unlicenced street prostitution in residential areas, a total sweep of all working girls off the streets, and VERY stiff prison sentences for kerb crawlers (10-15 years I'd say is fair..)

 

I can't find fault with either of your posts

it might be the world oldest proffession, but isnt it about time it was consigned to history? like kids sweeping victorian chimneys lol.

 

Chimneys all but don't exist now whereas men will always have dicks and sexual appetite

I think prostitution should be legalised, the agency I used was highly professional, run by a middle aged woman, had a strict code of conduct for its girls and its clients, regularly inspected its girls for sign of drug use, had the highest standard of professionalism and would only take on girls who had their own car, no streetwalking or kerb crawling, that kind of agency would be perfect if prostitution made legal and the hookers and pimps were cleansed from the streets, I think sex for cash should be legalised with licenced agencies and licenced premises