The change to introduce different paid/free ratios to the singles chart came a few years later - in July 2018, when video streams were counted for the first time. I think an OCC article at the time specifically stated that streams for the album chart weren't affected. But yes, it's by the by in terms of your overall point.

Does video streaming still not count towards the album chart then?

 

I do wonder if there’s a way of making streams only count towards the album if you’ve looked up the album in the first place. So you don’t have to listen to the whole album but you need to be streaming from within the album. Then the ratio could afford to be higher than 1,000th per track. It sounds tricky though.

Album sales are just in terminal decline tbh. I can't see how any change to streaming ratios is going to change that other than artificially.

Does video streaming still not count towards the album chart then?

 

I do wonder if there’s a way of making streams only count towards the album if you’ve looked up the album in the first place. So you don’t have to listen to the whole album but you need to be streaming from within the album. Then the ratio could afford to be higher than 1,000th per track. It sounds tricky though.

:wacko:

I do wonder if there’s a way of making streams only count towards the album if you’ve looked up the album in the first place. So you don’t have to listen to the whole album but you need to be streaming from within the album. Then the ratio could afford to be higher than 1,000th per track. It sounds tricky though.

Problem with implementing it is that it'll probably make an even bigger mess since most people probably don't actively seek out the most apropos album to stream tracks from. They'll just search it and add the first result that comes up no matter how random it is, either sticking with it forever (by adding it to their own personal playlist), or be subject to whatever fluctuations the algorithm decides for future listens. For instance, I just searched up "Lose Yourself" and the first result was neither Curtain Call nor the 8 Mile soundtrack, but the 2014 Shady Records compilation album, and I believe in the past it's also often come up with the "Just Lose It" single which in either case is just the same as not counting the song at all. Maybe to some this is a more just chart that puts cherry picking into perspective but I think it'd just make the chart impossible to interpret and meaningless (...more so).

Point I don't think anyone has made yet: I wonder if the Adele album would have got better streaming numbers on day one if she had dropped it without any single beforehand. The dropoff from absolutely record shattering first day streams from 'Easy On Me' to merely very good first day streams for the '30' album tracks is definitely unexpected, but notably the previous record holder for the biggest day 1 album bomb was Drake's album which dropped with no singles.

On that note, I wonder if Easy On Me would have been the leading track if she had just dropped the album with no lead single (imagining she didn't drop a video for it either). Or would one of the other tracks have connected more immediately with the audience?

Point I don't think anyone has made yet: I wonder if the Adele album would have got better streaming numbers on day one if she had dropped it without any single beforehand. The dropoff from absolutely record shattering first day streams from 'Easy On Me' to merely very good first day streams for the '30' album tracks is definitely unexpected, but notably the previous record holder for the biggest day 1 album bomb was Drake's album which dropped with no singles.

 

I was thinking the opposite that because she's one of the few artists who does insane physicals, she might have been better leading up with 3-4 singles dropping separately then the album. I could have seen her get 1.5-2.0m for dropping a second single.

Im sure if she dropped an album a la Drake, all tracks would have been near 3 million on release day, like EOM did

and then drop during the week like EOM did

 

Don't think a longer campaign would have benefited album sales, maybe the opposite, people get tried

long pre-album campaign are only used by artists that cannot get hits and release 4/5 singles to see what sticks

on Amazon:

5 Mariah

7 Wham

15 Pogues

 

Adele's tracks dropping quite a bit, OMG is the highest album track at #20

and the lowest at #60

 

All Too Well sudden climb to #32!

 

George Ezra's Xmas Amazon song is up to #64!

Spotify Chart Update (20/11)

 

01 01 Adele – Easy On Me 780,937

02 02 Adele – Oh My God 470,967

03 05 Adele – I Drink Wine 386,058 [*NEW PEAK*]

04 06 Adele – Can I Get It 381,388 [*NEW PEAK*]

05 13 Ed Sheeran – Shivers 381,167

06 04 Adele – My Little Love 380,316

07 03 Adele – Strangers By Nature 335,561

08 15 Elton John, Dua Lipa, PNAU – Cold Heart - PNAU Remix 331,060

09 08 Adele – To Be Loved 329,245

10 07 Adele – Cry Your Heart Out 322,027

 

11 14 D-Block Europe, Central Cee – Overseas 295,451 [*NEW PEAK*]

12 17 Sam Fender – Seventeen Going Under 295,393

13 18 ArrDee – Flowers (Say My Name) 287,805

14 20 The Kid LAROI, Justin Bieber – STAY (with Justin Bieber) 275,976

15 16 Taylor Swift – All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault) 275,106 #6 comb. 339,454

16 19 Ed Sheeran – Bad Habits 271,300

17 21 Glass Animals – Heat Waves 268,764

18 11 Adele – Hold On 267,722

19 10 Adele – All Night Parking (with Erroll Garner) Interlude 267,357

20 09 Adele – Woman Like Me 265,551

 

21 22 SwitchOTR, A1 x J1 – Coming for You (feat. A1 x J1) 261,369

22 12 Adele – Love Is A Game 234,058

23 25 Ed Sheeran – Overpass Graffiti 222,715

24 24 Lil Nas X, Jack Harlow – INDUSTRY BABY (feat. Jack Harlow) 222,560

25 23 Central Cee – Obsessed With You 215,503

26 28 CKay – love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 215,332

27 29 ACRAZE, Cherish – Do It To It 198,893

28 26 Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic – Smokin Out The Window 195,172

29 32 Becky Hill, Topic – My Heart Goes (La Di Da) (feat. Topic) 194,529

30 30 Doja Cat – Woman 191,064

 

31 31 Lil Nas X – THATS WHAT I WANT 187,494

32 33 Ewan McVicar – Tell Me Something Good 186,310

33 49 Mariah Carey – All I Want for Christmas Is You 180,907

34 34 THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole – Meet Me At Our Spot 171,493

35 38 Olivia Rodrigo – good 4 u 161,193

36 40 Joel Corry, Jax Jones, Charli XCX, Saweetie – OUT OUT (feat. Charli XCX & Saweetie) 161,175

37 27 D-Block Europe – No Competition 159,910

38 71 Wham! – Last Christmas 157,191

39 46 Joel Corry, Mabel – I Wish (feat. Mabel) 145,114

40 42 Arz – Alone With You 142,811

 

41 53 GAYLE – abcdefu 137,347 [*NEW PEAK*]

42 48 Coldplay, BTS – My Universe 136,055

43 44 Post Malone, The Weeknd – One Right Now (with The Weeknd) 135,575

47 59 NEIKED, Mae Muller, Polo G – Better Days (NEIKED x Mae Muller x Polo G) 125,303

48 54 Justin Bieber – Ghost 119,277

49 57 Amaarae, Kali Uchis, Moliy – SAD GIRLZ LUV MONEY Remix (feat. Kali Uchis and Moliy) 118,304

55 64 Swedish House Mafia, The Weeknd – Moth To A Flame (with The Weeknd) 108,845

70 86 Lost Frequencies, Calum Scott – Where Are You Now 96,860

82 80 Juice WRLD – Already Dead 88,944

84 93 Sam Fender – Spit Of You 87,523

87 149 BoyWithUke – Toxic 84,406

98 98 FelixThe1st, Dreya Mac, Finch Fetti – Own Brand Freestyle 79,939

100 99 Da Beatfreakz, Russ Millions, RAYE, wewantwraiths – Money Calling (feat. RAYE, Russ Millions & wewantwraiths) 79,075

 

115 116 Imagine Dragons, JID, Arcane, League of Legends – Enemy (with JID) - from the series Arcane League of Legends 74,686

118 139 SR – Welcome To Brixton 73,912

128 153 LISA – MONEY 71,109

144 138 Tate McRae – feel like shit 67,041

157 132 Polo G – Bad Man (Smooth Criminal) 64,348

158 148 Tiësto, Ava Max – The Motto 64,077

161 158 Benson Boone – GHOST TOWN 63,593

164 150 Meekz – More Money 62,882

198 RE The Rare Occasions – Notion 57,619

Looks like it's been officially announced that I Drink Wine is no longer the 2nd single

but it's Oh My God instead

Apple Music Chart Update (21-22/11)

 

01 01 Adele - Easy On Me

02 02 Adele - Oh My God

03 03 Adele - My Little Love

04 04 Adele - I Drink Wine

05 05 Adele - Can I Get It

06 06 Adele - Strangers By Nature

07 07 Adele - Cry Your Heart Out

08 08 Ed Sheeran - Shivers

09 10 Adele - To Be Loved

10 09 D-Block Europe - Overseas (feat. Central Cee)

 

11 11 Adele - Hold On

12 12 Adele - All Night Parking (with Erroll Garner) Interlude

13 14 Adele - Woman Like Me

14 13 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix)

15 15 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name)

16 17 Adele - Love Is A Game

17 16 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits

18 18 Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti

19 22 Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under

20 20 D-Block Europe - No Competition

 

21 19 Acraze - Do It To It (feat. Cherish)

22 21 Joel Corry - I Wish (feat. Mabel)

23 24 SwitchOTR - Coming for You (feat. A1 x J1)

24 36 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

25 23 Becky Hill & Topic - My Heart Goes (La Di Da)

26 27 The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY

27 25 D-Block Europe - Funny Bunny Nails

28 31 Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault)

29 26 Central Cee - Obsessed With You

30 28 D-Block Europe - Chrome Hearts (feat. Offset)

 

31 30 Amaarae & Kali Uchis - Sad Girlz Luv Money Remix (feat. Moliy)

32 33 Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window

33 29 D-Block Europe - Crypto's & Crime

34 37 D-Block Europe - Don't Go (feat. Wretch 32)

35 53 Wham! - Last Christmas

36 32 D-Block Europe - Blood Diamonds

37 34 D-Block Europe - Money Can't Buy (feat. Young Adz)

38 35 D-Block Europe - Intro

39 38 D-Block Europe - Love Is Blind

40 40 Glass Animals - Heat Waves

 

42 43 Justin Bieber - Ghost

45 51 NEIKED, Mae Muller & Polo G - Better Days

47 58 Niall Horan & Anne-Marie - Everywhere (BBC Children In Need)

53 60 Arz - Alone With You

56 50 Clean Bandit & Topic - Drive (feat. Wes Nelson)

60 63 Coldplay X BTS - My Universe

63 82 GAYLE - abcdefu

65 66 THE ANXIETY, WILLOW & Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot

68 67 Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now

71 76 Benson Boone - GHOST TOWN

74 78 Dermot Kennedy - Better Days

75 69 Meduza - Tell It To My Heart (feat. Hozier)

80 80 Tom Grennan - Don't Break the Heart

82 90 Tate McRae - feel like shit

84 81 Summer Walker & SZA - No Love

85 79 Lost Frequencies & Calum Scott - Where Are You Now

 

101 96 Meekz - More Money

104 97 Little Mix - No (Galantis Remix)

107 104 Da Beatfreakz - Money Calling (feat. Russ Millions, RAYE & wewantwraiths)

108 103 Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open

112 89 Jethro Heston & Max Marshall - Cut Me Loose (2021 Edit)

114 112 Fireboy DML - Peru

119 102 Navos & HARLEE - You & I

121 119 Griff - One Night

133 130 FelixThe1st & Dreya Mac - Own Brand Freestyle (feat. Finch Fetti)

136 125 Swedish House Mafia & The Weeknd - Moth To A Flame

138 105 Craig David & MNEK - Who You Are

146 NE Dutchavelli - Never Forget You

161 133 Diplo, Paul Woolford & Kareen Lomax - Promises

163 NE Mabel - Time After Time (From The McDonald’s Christmas Advert 2021)

169 137 Nathan Dawe & T. Matthias - Goodbye

200 185 Mowgs & MIST - Swerve Off

Adele's tracks have actually stabilised quite well on Amazon, mostly only dropping a couple of places since yesterday or staying put, and 3 of them have gone back up. Not bad considering how many Christmas songs have surged since yesterday (11 in the top 50 now!)

Looks like it's been officially announced that I Drink Wine is no longer the 2nd single

but it's Oh My God instead

#justiceforcanigetit

Looks like it's been officially announced that I Drink Wine is no longer the 2nd single

but it's Oh My God instead

 

Where is the announcement?

 

This is really good news if so!

On Spotify, Adele has the whole top 5, and 8 of the top 9. My Little Love rebounds to a new peak of #3.

 

#36 abcdefu

Christmas songs at #23, #28, #37, #43 & #50.

‘Spit Of You’ at 92 on Apple as well!

Quite shocked to see my little love go up to 3 tbh it hasn’t been performed or anything

my little love and i drink wine will probably fight it out for a charting position, i think I drink Wine will manage it though! I’m not so sure she will occupy the entire top 3 now but will see based upon today’s sales as shivers seems to be catching up

I hope it gets replaced by something else in time for Friday... I find the voicenotes a bit jarring :unsure: