July 28, 20223 yr And the issue is that even if people by some miracle/Goverenment intervention just about manage for the price rises in October (they won't) what happens when the prices rise even further but with energy companies profiteering off the misery, where is the line drawn about paying bills? There has to be a tipping point where people fight back.
July 28, 20223 yr Boris Johnson today stated "I know the financial pressures people are experiencing but my argument is sometimes you have to go through periods of difficulty and you have to remember that they are inevitable." Talk about not reading the room. Jesus Christ alf***ingmighty.
July 28, 20223 yr Absolutely RIDICULOUS. How can they expect us to pay foe all of this? Profits at the expense of people!
July 28, 20223 yr Boris Johnson today stated "I know the financial pressures people are experiencing but my argument is sometimes you have to go through periods of difficulty and you have to remember that they are inevitable." Talk about not reading the room. Jesus Christ alf***ingmighty. He is scum, plain and simple.
July 28, 20223 yr Boris Johnson today stated "I know the financial pressures people are experiencing but my argument is sometimes you have to go through periods of difficulty and you have to remember that they are inevitable." Talk about not reading the room. Jesus Christ alf***ingmighty. Here is the problem. This country is run by millionaires or people who are completely out of touch with the reality of ordinary peoples lives. Boris Johnson has probably never experienced real poverty. He earns at least £120k in his job and that doesn’t include all the bonuses he makes from work on the side. When you earn that kind of money, energy bills rising to over £3k won’t have the same level of impact that it will have on the lives of most ordinary people on an average wage.
July 29, 20223 yr Johnson lied. The Tories lied. Just keep saying it. Re British Gas, they arent the only supplier and they are quite relaxed about people not paying their bill because they play a waiting game. I got a smartmeter installed 5 years ago to reduce costs (for me, and for them - they no longer needed staff to come round and read bills periodically). 4 years ago the electric smartmeter stopped working but I didnt notice cos I pay by direct debit and dont ever bother to go online and check my bills cos they always adjust DD up and down according to useage and so neither me nor BG did anything about it because neither of us spotted it. So I was getting billed for electric rental but no electric use. So, for 4 years they had no system in place to flag up that someone paying £80 a month for gas was using "zero" electric for 4 years. That's how relaxed about it they are. When I heard about the price rises I wanted to make sure the bills were up to date so I wouldnt get charged at the higher rate and took readings to check. That's when I found out, and told BG about the problem. They arranged to install a new smartmeter in March and I agreed to pay back electricity based on what I was currently using at a rate of £100 a month, once they'd got some readings for that period, and at previous charge rates, not the new rates. It was raining so they couldnt install the meter and agreed to come in July. They didn't turn up in July so I rang again. They had run out of smartmeters and had no idea when they would get some in so I continue to get "free" electricity until they tell me they have a smartmeter available. I'm suspecting the whole smartmeter thing has been a bit of a catastrophe for them and it's not actually that smart. And they continue to be relaxed about not getting payments. Why relaxed? Because if you don't pay your bills, or get cut off, at some stage you will need gas and electric when you move and all the energy suppliers swap information on people who owe money. At that point if you want gas or electric you will have to pay up, plus extra in fines. Just saying. They are very relaxed about the whole process. Are they telling you that in the mass disobedience plans? They make billions in profits and can just sit and wait till you need to move.....
August 8, 20222 yr Ed Davey has said today the government should scrap the energy price cap rise and fund the proposed increase themselves to prevent millions who will struggle to afford to heat their homes this winter. It would be predicted to cost 36m but it’s the best idea I’ve heard from any politician and likely to help people alot more than a tax cut.
August 9, 20222 yr Do you think a Tory politician will do this and basically admit market failure? It goes against their wonderful free market ideology. Britannia Unchained will be burned on the bonfire or Friedman failures!
August 9, 20222 yr Do you think a Tory politician will do this and basically admit market failure? It goes against their wonderful free market ideology. Britannia Unchained will be burned on the bonfire or Friedman failures! Of course the Tories won’t do it. But things are looking extremely dire with latest predictions of the price cap rising to £4200 in January and £4400 in April. The Tories will have to do something but as always, their policies seem to be more about protecting the interests of energy suppliers and the rich rather than helping people on lower incomes who are most at need. Edited August 9, 20222 yr by slowdown73
August 9, 20222 yr Tax cuts are stupid, what good is an extra £20-30 to people? A tax cut isn’t going to stop a recession, it might put off the inevitable for an extra few months. Stupid policy which people unfortunately fall for as they soon realise they lose out elsewhere when other essential services are slashed. The Tories are sleepwalking in to a catastrophe which imo can only be solved in the short term by increasing a windfall tax to increase subsided payments to the nation.
August 9, 20222 yr Truss, Sunak and Johnson really need to get together (they are the same political party FFS) and come up with a properly costed and reasoned plan that they can all agree on and that can be put into place NOW!
August 9, 20222 yr Not Johnson's problem apparently, needs to be the new PM that decides it. I mean they should've really just taken over now instead of dragging this thing out pointlessly as he's literally doing sod all, but then his ego can't be damaged by having a shorter term than May... Ofc. the new candidates are just focused on ineffective tax cuts and culture war bullshit that is not a problem to anyone that thinks clearly. I even watched one of the debates and I never saw one mention of how they plan to tackle this crisis outside empty words, it's gonna be a depressing few months ahead :'( (but hopefully one that will sink them once and for all)
August 9, 20222 yr Ed Davey has said today the government should scrap the energy price cap rise and fund the proposed increase themselves to prevent millions who will struggle to afford to heat their homes this winter. It would be predicted to cost 36m but it’s the best idea I’ve heard from any politician and likely to help people alot more than a tax cut. Yes excellent idea and the best one yet.
August 9, 20222 yr They don't care if people freeze to death this winter, though, do they? They are currently trying to appeal to the Tory base who will determine who they vote to be PM and because they are batshit crazy right wingers they have to be really right wing to be PM, simple as that! It’ll be when they are in no10 that we will see the plan!
August 9, 20222 yr They are currently trying to appeal to the Tory base who will determine who they vote to be PM and because they are batshit crazy right wingers they have to be really right wing to be PM, simple as that! It’ll be when they are in no10 that we will see the plan! Don't know if Truss will give handouts though, I think Sunak would cave in to the pressure, but imo Truss is also trying to appeal to those people who do not believe she is a staunt Conservative. The proposed tax cut does absolutely nothing to a basic rate taxpayer and ultimately will mean a cut in our public services. Simply, the Government has to do more as not only are we walking in to a recession, people are not going to be able to afford their energy.
August 9, 20222 yr So after the cap is increased to ~£3300-3400 in October, it's now expected to be over £4200 in January. This is certainly going to be a massive winter of discontent in the making I would imagine.
August 9, 20222 yr Well Johnson has just put the cat amongst the pigeons by saying the new PM will definitely help out with energy bills. Completely undermining tenth rate Thatcher Ms Truss who is preaching the bollox about capitalism and market forces solving all our woes!
August 9, 20222 yr Let her continue to do that she’s desperate to be pm so will say anything to attract the Tory members vote, if she continues it when in office happy days too Labour will win the next election due to it!
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