Drake's declining relevancy is kind of fact isn't it? He released two studio albums last year and neither of them went top ten on Year end even in the US let alone UK.

Drake's declining relevancy is kind of fact isn't it? He released two studio albums last year and neither of them went top ten on Year end even in the US let alone UK.

Depends on how you spin it. "Certified Lover Boy" still made the Billboard Year End top 10 2 years in a row. "Her Loss" was released on the first week of the new Billboard year so it was literally impossible for it to make the cut for 2022, but I have to imagine it's a strong top 3 contender already for 2023. "Honestly, Nevermind" is an underperformer but it's not exactly made for his usual demographics so it's not surprising. In any case, across those 3 albums, a lot of people were listening to Drake in 2022 which tends to be more viable than having a slightly more successful album every few years. Can't let people forget you if you're never gone for long :lol:

Edited January 9, 20232 yr by Dircadirca

I was referring to "real" Year End, not the bizarre Billboard year end but even then CLB did go top ten, so you're right there. Her Loss might have gone if released earlier in the autumn but it's not streaming super well for his standards beyond Rich Flex which is a hit and #2 on Spotify and AM in the US. Same with Honestly, Nevermind: one song that has sticked with people (Jimmy Cooks) and nothing else - and even that was with 21 Savage so it's actually a proper question if people like 21 Savage more than Drake on these particular tracks.

 

With that said, he is going to release lots of music in 2023 too so we'll see how it goes.

I think Drake is definitely in decline. He's not as successful as at his peak. But really the same could be said of Justin Bieber, Adele, maybe even Ed Sheeran. They're still successful but they used to be bigger.

Spotify

 

New Peak:

 

15. Miguel- Sure Thing

19. Stephen Sanchez, Em Beihold- Until I Found You- Em Beihold Version

29. Eminem- Mockingbird

35. JVKE- golden hour

41. d4vd- Here With Me

109. Bruno Mars- When I Was Your Man

116. Saint Levant- Very New Friends

126. Beach House- Space Song

 

 

 

Re-Entries:

 

87. Popcaan, Drake- We Caa Done

135. Cigarettes After Sex- Apocalypse

167. Lord Huron- The Night We Met

176. Lewis Capaldi- Bruises

180. Coldplay- Sparks

181. Ruth B.- Dandelions

182. Snow Patrol- Chasing Cars

184. The Weeknd- Save Your Tears

185. Keane- Somewhere Only We Know

187. TV Girl- Lovers Rock

188. Passenger- Let Her Go

195. Taylor Swift- Maroon

198. Adele- Rolling In The Deep

199. Childish Gambino- Redbone

but why the sudden re-entry for Drake after the first poor 2 days, did it become viral in tiktok?

 

Drake is certainly in decline, just look at his albums figures of late

Surprised to see the Popcaan X Drake re enter so high, i reallt didn't expect to see it re-enter at all

Half of Drake songs go viral on tiktok all the time, wouldn't surprise me if this has gone viral already too

May i just say that it looks like The Weeknd's collab with Gesaffelstein "I Was Never There" from his 2018 EP "My Dear Melancholy" has gone viral. Now at #96 on the spotify top 100! I'm also pushing really hard now to get "Die For You" top 40.

If Drake really is in decline, then it's nowhere near fast enough.

Hopefully Creepin can still go top 10.

I know there are demographic differences between the DSPs, but it's kind of ridiculous with some of the differences between chart positions for certain songs. How can Lewis be top 10 on Apple and Amazon but only 45 on Spotify? Presumably it's largely due to playlist support?

totally cos of playlist support

Pointless only being #32 on Hot Hits UK means it probably still has quite a lot of room to grow. Once it inevitably gets moved on up there I can see it being a pretty stable top 10 hit

I think the reference to Drake's relevance was just a callback to earlier in the thread when it was said 'We Caa Done' doing less well than 'TWIST & TURN' was a sign of his decreasing relevance. It now has a higher peak than 'TWIST & TURN' so what does that say by the same logic :kink: (the high re-entry of 'We Caa Done' does seem a bit odd though, it doesn't look like it's had a corresponding increase anywhere else - it's actually dropped out of the top 200 in the US (from #100 yesterday) and also fallen in Canada).

 

I don't doubt that Drake is likely past his biggest eras now (although he's having a cushy 'decline' phase with his last album getting 8 of the US top 10 in its first week and still being a long running top 5/10 album :P) but important context that keeps being forgotten, 'Her Loss' is a collaboration album and they usually don't do as well as solo albums.

Spotify Chart Update (08/01)

 

01 01 RAYE, 070 Shake – Escapism. 363,268 – 490,744 comb.

02 02 SZA – Kill Bill 348,092

03 03 Taylor Swift – Anti-Hero 244,371

04 04 Central Cee – LET GO 230,704

05 05 Bugzy Malone, TeeDee – Out Of Nowhere 217,834

06 07 Sam Smith, Kim Petras – Unholy (feat. Kim Petras) 204,540

07 06 David Guetta, Bebe Rexha – I'm Good (Blue) 198,861

08 11 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage – Creepin' (with The Weeknd & 21 Savage) 198,601

09 08 Meghan Trainor – Made You Look 198,416

10 10 Harry Styles – As It Was 194,763

 

11 12 Oliver Tree, Robin Schulz – Miss You 186,722

12 09 venbee, goddard. – messy in heaven 184,514

13 14 Tom Odell – Another Love 180,209

14 13 OneRepublic – I Ain't Worried 179,057

15 16 Miguel – Sure Thing 176,594 [*PEAK*]

16 19 Steve Lacy – Bad Habit 154,707

17 21 The Neighbourhood – Sweater Weather 154,307

18 15 Drake, 21 Savage – Rich Flex 153,168

19 26 Stephen Sanchez, Em Beihold – Until I Found You (with Em Beihold) - Em Beihold Version 151,876 [*PEAK*]

20 18 Rema, Selena Gomez – Calm Down (with Selena Gomez) 141,302 – 202,766 - #6 comb.

 

21 23 Lewis Capaldi – Forget Me 136,320

22 22 Anne-Marie, Aitch – PSYCHO 134,783

23 33 Arctic Monkeys – I Wanna Be Yours 132,929

24 20 Beyoncé – CUFF IT 131,182

25 27 Chris Brown – Under The Influence 131,094

26 17 Skrillex, Fred again.., Flowdan – Rumble 128,417

27 37 d4vd – Romantic Homicide 128,227

28 29 RAYE, 070 Shake – Escapism. - Sped Up 127,476

29 31 Eminem – Mockingbird 125,276 [*PEAK*]

30 28 Central Cee – Doja 123,853

 

31 30 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 123,711

32 38 Arctic Monkeys – 505 122,642

33 24 Eliza Rose, Interplanetary Criminal – B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) - Edit 121,060

34 32 SZA – Shirt 120,109

35 39 JVKE – golden hour 119,488 [*PEAK*]

36 25 LF SYSTEM – Afraid To Feel 118,850

37 36 Cian Ducrot – I'll Be Waiting 117,330

38 43 Tory Lanez – The Color Violet 115,029

39 34 Lil Uzi Vert – Just Wanna Rock 113,242

40 41 Coldplay – Viva La Vida 111,571

 

41 49 d4vd – Here With Me 109,786 [*PEAK*]

42 46 The Weeknd – Die For You 108,435

45 45 Lewis Capaldi – Pointless 105,717

49 44 Tiësto, Tate McRae – 10:35 100,468

51 59 PinkPantheress – Boy's a liar 96,718

52 50 Taylor Swift – Lavender Haze 94,922

56 48 Clavish, D-Block Europe – Rocket Science (feat. D-Block Europe) 93,146

60 62 SZA – Nobody Gets Me 91,121

61 63 Lady Gaga – Bloody Mary 91,102

66 73 ThxSoMch – SPIT IN MY FACE! 84,786

71 68 Metro Boomin, Future, Chris Brown – Superhero (Heroes & Villains) [with Future & Chris Brown] 82,979

73 94 Beach Weather – Sex, Drugs, Etc. 82,588

79 102 The 1975 – About You 79,709

87 RE Popcaan, Drake – We Caa Done (feat. Drake) 76,574 [*PEAK*]

92 72 Joel Corry, Tom Grennan – Lionheart (Fearless) 75,247

100 121 Hotel Ugly – Shut up My Moms Calling - (Sped Up) 72,284 [*PEAK*] – 136,922 - #21 comb.

 

116 161 Saint Levant – Very Few Friends 67,070 [*PEAK*]

123 93 Fred again.., Delilah Montagu – Delilah (pull me out of this) 65,345

126 184 Beach House – Space Song 64,848 [*PEAK*]

130 166 Hotel Ugly – Shut up My Moms Calling 64,638

144 118 Mimi Webb – Ghost of You 62,299

152 128 Rema – Calm Down 61,464

173 147 Central Cee – One Up 57,960

187 RE TV Girl – Lovers Rock 56,454 [*PEAK*]

189 143 Headie One – 50s 56,237

Apple Music Chart Update (08-09/01)

 

01 01 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism.

02 02 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero

03 03 Central Cee - LET GO

04 04 venbee & Goddard - messy in heaven

05 06 SZA - Kill Bill

06 05 Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy

07 07 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down

08 09 Lewis Capaldi - Pointless

09 08 Meghan Trainor - Made You Look

10 12 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin'

 

11 10 David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue)

12 13 Bugzy Malone & TeeDee - Out Of Nowhere

13 11 Chris Brown - Under the Influence

14 14 Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me

15 15 Tiësto & Tate McRae - 10:35

16 16 Anne-Marie x Aitch - PSYCHO

17 21 Joel Corry & Tom Grennan - Lionheart (Fearless)

18 17 Eliza Rose & Interplanetary Criminal - B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) [Edit]

19 18 Beyoncé - CUFF IT

20 19 Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz - Miss You

 

21 20 Tom Odell - Another Love

22 22 Harry Styles - As It Was

23 24 Drake & 21 Savage - Rich Flex

24 26 Dermot Kennedy - Kiss Me

25 23 Burna Boy - Last Last

26 25 Ed Sheeran - Celestial

27 27 Stormzy - Hide & Seek

28 29 FLO - Cardboard Box

29 28 OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried

30 33 Miguel - Sure Thing

 

31 30 LF SYSTEM - Afraid To Feel

32 32 Luude & Mattafix - Big City Life

33 37 Mimi Webb - Ghost of You

34 41 Cian Ducrot - I'll Be Waiting

35 31 The Killers - Mr. Brightside

36 35 Lady Gaga - Bloody Mary

37 40 Burna Boy - For My Hand (feat. Ed Sheeran)

38 44 Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze

39 42 Lizzo - 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready)

40 57 Stormzy - Firebabe (feat. Debbie)

 

42 43 Clavish - Rocket Science (feat. D-Block Europe)

43 56 Sigala & MNEK - Radio

45 48 SZA - Shirt

49 51 SZA - Nobody Gets Me

51 55 JVKE - golden hour

53 61 Dean Lewis - How Do I Say Goodbye

54 39 Skrillex, Fred again.. & Flowdan - Rumble

56 64 P!nk - Never Gonna Not Dance Again

57 52 Fred again.. - Delilah (pull me out of this)

59 71 Headie One - 50s

60 76 Libianca - People

61 77 PinkPantheress - Boy's a liar

77 90 Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock

79 88 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism. (Sped Up)

80 78 Schak - Moving All Around (Jumpin') [feat. Kim English]

83 74 Popcaan & Drake - We Caa Done

88 80 Eminem - Mockingbird

94 84 Sub Focus & Dimension - Ready To Fly

99 RE The Weeknd - Die For You

100 RE Metro Boomin, Future & Chris Brown - Superhero (Heroes & Villains)

Just been binging Ginny & Georgia season 2 and Until I Found You is used quite notably in a couple of episodes, which could explain some of its climb when it's the #1 show on Netflix in the UK!

Really surprised Lionheart never took off. It was one of Joels strongest singles. I thought it would bounce back after christmas

Really surprised Lionheart never took off. It was one of Joels strongest singles. I thought it would bounce back after christmas

 

My theory is that it didn't take off as it's is his only genuinely decent song and that puts off his fanbase who like his usual Love Island bland nonsense. It's done ok mind and still may go top 20.