October 29, 200816 yr It would be interesting to work out how many of those made it big in other countries. Has no-one been able to come up with figures for this question yet. Obviously Leona has and I know for a fact that Gareth is still selling reasonably well in Asia, but I'd love to know figures. Anyone?
October 29, 200816 yr Yep Toca's Miracle was a hugely anticipated release and one of only a few songs that spent longer than a week at No.1 in 2000 Well, actually not anticipated enough (by music stores that is) thou because it was actually sold out from many places by the middle of the week because the music stores didn't expect it to do so well and the first week sales would have been way bigger if the stock wouldn't have ran out from so many stores. Then, of course, that did help Fragma to top the chart also next week since there were so much up-front demand for the track when the stores were able to stock it again. Edited October 29, 200816 yr by JackJones
October 29, 200816 yr I think Ronan Keating - Life Is A Rollercoaster sold something like 250k first week, but 100k were disqualified
October 30, 200816 yr I think Ronan Keating - Life Is A Rollercoaster sold something like 250k first week, but 100k were disqualified why was 100k disqualified??
October 30, 200816 yr why was 100k disqualified?? Because one of the CD's broke the rules, dunno if it was CD1 or CD2.
October 30, 200816 yr There are so few 2007 or 2008 albums in that list :o That says a lot about the decline of album sales in this country. Is it all the illegal downloading? It's so easy to blame the illegal downloads, but there are a lot of different factors too. Like nowadays the price and the value (content) of the albums are not in balance anymore imo, lack of promotion, lack of radio and music channels support etc.
October 30, 200816 yr It's so easy to blame the illegal downloads, but there are a lot of different factors too. Like nowadays the price and the value (content) of the albums are not in balance anymore imo, lack of promotion, lack of radio and music channels support etc. Someone on Devoted found Will's new album had been downloaded 14,500 times on just one torrent alone and Leon 9,000 times with 7 torrents , so I reckon illegal downloads do figure somewhat. Edited October 30, 200816 yr by munchkin
October 31, 200816 yr Sugas new album had been downloaded 12,000 times on a torrent i checked out the day before the album came out- it does make a difference.
October 31, 200816 yr Someone on Devoted found Will's new album had been downloaded 14,500 times on just one torrent alone and Leon 9,000 times with 7 torrents , so I reckon illegal downloads do figure somewhat. Yes I haven't said the illegal downloads don't exist. it's a factor of course. But not the only one! BTW the other question: were these 14,500 downloads all from the UK?
October 31, 200816 yr Because one of the CD's broke the rules, dunno if it was CD1 or CD2.CD2 I think. Was it the running time? Back then the rule was up to 3 tracks, maximum of 20 minutes. EDIT: it was ineligible because it contained an interview, presumably this broke either the tracks or running time rule. This BBC report from the time explains the record company error: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/849367.stm Edited October 31, 200816 yr by Robbie
October 31, 200816 yr Yes I haven't said the illegal downloads don't exist. it's a factor of course. But not the only one! BTW the other question: were these 14,500 downloads all from the UK? I have to say I don't know. I don't visit them myself. I can ask her if you really need to know but I do know how 'popular' they are. Would it make a difference where they originate from - the fact remains they are not legitimate sales which would certainly give him a better chart rating/sales 'position' - not to mention loss of revenue. Everyone wants to be paid for their work - why should singers/musicians be any different. It isn't just Will who loses out on these it's all the people involved in the making of an album. As you can probably tell I do not condone illegal downloading :P Oh - and before anyone asks - Will has never fully promoted abroad and therefore is not big anywhere other than the UK - where he's managed, at the last count, 7 million sales over the past 7 years, plus establishing himself as a popular and successful businessman. Edited October 31, 200816 yr by munchkin
October 31, 200816 yr I think Ronan Keating - Life Is A Rollercoaster sold something like 250k first week, but 100k were disqualified why was 100k disqualified?? Wasn't there a rumour going round that they were found in Lous Walsh's car boot? or was the Westlife? :unsure: :lol:
October 31, 200816 yr I have to say I don't know. I don't visit them myself. I can ask her if you really need to know but I do know how 'popular' they are. Would it make a difference where they originate from - the fact remains they are not legitimate sales which would certainly give him a better chart rating/sales 'position' - not to mention loss of revenue. Everyone wants to be paid for their work - why should singers/musicians be any different. It isn't just Will who loses out on these it's all the people involved in the making of an album. As you can probably tell I do not condone illegal downloading :P No, no it's not neccessary to ask it. But you might be right, the bigger part comes surely from the UK, because he's not very well known outside the UK, but for example I know him very well, although I'm from Hungary :P And yes, they lose revenue, but I said "it's easy to blame the illegal downloading" because it's like a witchhunting. Music labels should think about other ideas, solutions and not hunting anonymous people, that uploaded songs, let leak albums etc. The music industry has reacted waaaay to late for the internet and the possobilities it can give. I think they should have use the internet earlier and they could have avoided such a big boom in illegal downloading. But this is only my opinion. And I can tell you I'm someone who downloads illegally because I think the value and the content of physical albums and singles are not in balance at all. (Just an example: I can by DVDs far cheaper in Hugnary then CDs, with more content!) But this could be a different discussion in a different thread I guess :D
October 31, 200816 yr Oh yes - quite a subject. I agree about the record companies acting too late. I went to a BBC discussion several years ago about the death of the single, which was attended by all the heads of the labels and people in the industry. The labels knew 15 years earlier that illegal downloading was harming their business and chose to do nothing.
October 31, 200816 yr Oh yes - quite a subject. I agree about the record companies acting too late. I went to a BBC discussion several years ago about the death of the single, which was attended by all the heads of the labels and people in the industry. The labels knew 15 years earlier that illegal downloading was harming their business and chose to do nothing. And another example they act stupid, (and then I really finish this discussion), why do music labels release singles delayed from country to coutnry? Britney's Womanizer is already released in the US, but will be only available to download from Sunday? On the Internet it doesn't matter where you're from. Someone just upload the song right after the US release and you can get the track already no matter where you are. And it's no wonder the label loses sales. With a download release in the same day everywhere they could minimize the damage imo. Finished :D
October 31, 200816 yr so 120k sales of Life Is A Rollercoaster were disqualified. How much would it have done then first week?
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