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But Radio 1 have never worked like that, they have only ever playlisted "official" singles, why would they randomly start playlisting any old songs now?
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Sinner was released as an official single back in June last year. Radio 1 should have playlisted it then as they were already one of the most hyped bands in the country. It was a current single release then and fit all their criteria for playlisting but, as always these days, they're late to react and sadly beholden to what the major labels want, only putting on rotation after the label 're-issues' it.

 

When any new and interesting band hits the scene Radio 1 are almost always twelve months behind and no longer interested in anything but the most generic sounding releases. Look also at Wet Leg for another obvious example, they were way behind the curve. There once was a time where Radio 1 led the way in promoting fresh new talent from the alternative scene, even if it was late night shows, but that's been pretty dead for many years now in favour of generic stuff like Coldplay. Credit Lamacq though for ploughing a lonley furrow.

 

There are so many exciting and brilliant acts out there with a large enough fanbase but Radio 1 will only touch it when someone pays them enough to do so. Ask yourself why Sleep Token, Bob Vylan, Wargasm or Kid Kapichi aren't on the playlist despite having a sizeable enough fan base to warrant it.

 

The Radio 1 playlist isn't picked by a commitee of music fans but by which label is willing to pay the most that month, and the sad thing is that it's stifling some real talent from being heard.

The daytime playlist will always follow what the labels want released but the evening shows do promote newer music and played Last Dinner Party 12 months before daytime have.

 

‘Sinner’, ‘Nothing Matters’ & ‘My Lady Of Mercy’ all got a lot of plays on the evening shows in the past 12 months but you are right the evening shows are becoming more generic now. Future Sounds regularly plays pop songs by Beyoncé and Dua Lipa nowadays when back in the day the equilivant show wouldn’t have went near them because they got so much daytime airplays!

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The daytime playlist will always follow what the labels want released but the evening shows do promote newer music and played Last Dinner Party 12 months before daytime have.

 

‘Sinner’, ‘Nothing Matters’ & ‘My Lady Of Mercy’ all got a lot of plays on the evening shows in the past 12 months but you are right the evening shows are becoming more generic now. Future Sounds regularly plays pop songs by Beyoncé and Dua Lipa nowadays when back in the day the equilivant show wouldn’t have went near them because they got so much daytime airplays!

To be fair, looking at recent shows, those tend to be played only in the first 15-20 minutes before moving onto smaller acts (and often not at all, usually only when the big acts have new releases out).

Yeh I know Clara was a big Beyoncé fan tbf so she prob had some say in her rinsing of ‘16 Carriages’ but the point remains they wouldn’t have been played even in the first 15-20mins in the past. Guess they moved the evening shows forward an hour so that the daytime and nighttime shows could merge together in the first few hours and drive time listeners may have heard artists they wouldn’t normally have?

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Yeh I know Clara was a big Beyoncé fan tbf so she prob had some say in her rinsing of ‘16 Carriages’ �� but the point remains they wouldn’t have been played even in the first 15-20mins in the past. Guess they moved the evening shows forward an hour so that the daytime and nighttime shows could merge together in the first few hours and drive time listeners may have heard artists they wouldn’t normally have?

I forgot they moved the evening shows forward an hour actually - so it’s still more smaller artists played than in the past!

Sinner was C-Listed on Radio 1 last August
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Huh, I'm surprised to find out that this didn't chart in the US. They seemed to have some decent promo in the US, and Wet Let were able to get as high as #14 there a couple of years ago.
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I heard Jack play it on the evening shows and thought it would be the next single - good choice!
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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/sep/...r-party-concert

 

In the news today following an incident at a show where male attendees were "funnelled into a dark corner" and asked questions about the band/told they "might be a pervert cus [they're] alone".

 

The band has not commented about it yet, but several attendees at the show were apparently told by security that it was the band's decision... which would be a very unwise move for a band with a significant 6Music Dad fanbase.

 

Strangely, after all that, they cancelled the show at 21:30 (after support acts had played) due to illness!

That’s a bit shocking, I’d be taking them to the cleaners of they asked those types of questions. I’ve went to loads of gigs myself because other friends wouldn’t go!
In over 36 years of gig going I've never seen that happen before. Shocking behaviour.

That's really bad. I was actually considering going to that gig on my own as I didn't know anyone who wanted to see them with me but I'm glad I didn't get round to it now :/

 

I've genuinely never heard of anything like this and believe me I've been to some gigs where actually enforcing that would've been useful! :lol: I'd be horrified if that was me.
I go on my own loads to gigs etc and I’d be absolutely horrified and probably terrified to ever do it again if that was me :drama:
Wow, that's really shocking, I hate how there's such a stigma around people doing so called 'social' activities by themselves. I know first hand that going to events by yourself can be a real salvation for people and can help with mental health difficulties, loneliness and social anxiety. Stereotyping them is at best, ignorant and at worst, harmful and damaging.

Horrifying and very disappointing if the band had anything to do it. I find their music pretty meh though so I wasn’t about to go to one of their gigs anyway.

 

I almost got in trouble when I saw The Killers because I turned round to take a selfie with the stage in the background and the girl who’d been standing behind me thought I was taking a photo of her. She was fine after I explained though.

 

Is predatory men going to gigs a thing / has it been a regular thing in the past? Is there a hypersensitivity around it?

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