apparently the disqualification is because he punched a female production worker in which case I have little sympathy for him,

regardless the way the EBU are handling the whole situation this year remains a shitshow

This is sadly overshadowing everything.

 

I think if he’s not disqualified and performs tomorrow, The Netherlands wins. If he is disqualified I think Israel has this.

If he is not disqualified he better sue tbh

^^ I never felt The Netherlands would be a winner regardless, it’s a great fun pop song and certainly a Top 10 finish and a hit in Europe regardless of where it ends up.

 

With this drama I feel it’ll just split votes - The Netherlands getting the vote due to what’s happened and potentially taking away from others leading to an Israeli win.

I doubt enough of the voting public will have heard about this situation today to really particularly motivate more votes towards Netherlands if Joost does still take part.

 

I suppose if he's not allowed to perform in the final but they show his entry on video, they may have to give some sort of explanation.

 

Europapa is No.1 in my rankings and I'd be sad to lose it, but obviously if what is rumoured is true (and I don't know if it is) then it's difficult to just let it slide, it's pretty serious.

Regardless of whatever the incident is, I just think it’s so shit of them not to be transparent about any of it. Even disregarding the whole Israel saga etc, it’s just showing yet again that this year has been an utter shambles on the front of the EBU. If he’s under investigation to potentially be disqualified, they should say, and I know they still have to go ahead with the jury final but say nothing is found to be wrong, that could ruin Joost’s jury chances as it’s not going to have the same impact watching a video compared to being there for the performance. Idk it’s hard to comment without knowing what’s going on, but again it wouldn’t hurt them to be transparent. For the fans to be there for the jury final, and still not know what’s going on, is just a shambles.

I doubt enough of the voting public will have heard about this situation today to really particularly motivate more votes towards Netherlands if Joost does still take part.

 

I’m not sure, it’s had mass media coverage including mainstream news -

 

If Israel had not been allowed to participate, none of this would have happened.

 

Censoring crowd noises, being all hush-hush about what happened here, banning of FLAGS. And then the AUDACITY to still call this a non-political contest. It always was and always will be one.

The Netherlands has been disqualified from the grand final

 

https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/s...on-song-contest

Obviously don’t know any of the facts and only social media speculation but what a sorry state of affairs :cry:

I'm so f***ing mad for them.

 

Obviously we do not know the details but it is ridiculous how this happens while the KAN delegation gets to act the way they do with threats on other artists and they're sitting pretty.

Swedish police have confirmed it wasn’t physical and didn’t have anything to do with another artist or delegation. Reading between the lines I think it’s a tense atmosphere that he’s at the centre of and he probably snapped. And we all know what the cause of the atmosphere is…..

 

For me, I don’t think anything verbal is worth disqualification if Israel are getting away what they’ve gotten away with, even if we ignore them being allowed to participate in the first place.

We certainly don't know the details so I won't be jumping into conclusions about Joost but I agree the confrontations from the Israeli delegation and media have largely gone unchecked.

obviously it’s the correct thing to do if true. but ‘intimidation’. exactly what the israeli delegation have been doing this whole time. wtf.

What a comedy.

It must be serious to be disqualified, I wonder did they debate whoever came 11th in the televote to take their place.

Also I wonder will it be mentioned tonight or will it be a case where there will be no reference made to it all.

Edited May 11, 20241 yr by Crown_The_Witch.

It must be serious to be disqualified, I wonder did they debate whoever came 11th in the televote to take their place.

Also I wonder will it be mentioned tonight or will it be a case where there will be no reference made to it all.

I think they did at some point but if that were to be done, the decision would have come through yesterday. Obviously, I think they were expecting the case to be mild but now that the police has decided to start an investigation, which could indicate a crime has taken place, it is too late to issue a wild card.

 

The running order has also been shifted so I expect no reference will be made at all.

It's a pitty they couldn't have given a wild card to let someone through in their place.

 

Update: The running order has been updated and now the running order number 05 will be blanked.

 

The Netherlands will still present their jury votes and the televoting still counts.

I suspect there be “technical difficulties”trying to reach the Dutch presenter in the vote reveal though