July 1, 20241 yr Author Looking forward to never seeing or hearing from Rishi Sunak ever again He's been in the papers today threatening to stay on even if he loses the election and confirming he'll at the very least stay on as a constituency MP for the next parliament. Our only hope is him losing his seat - which seems unlikely.
July 1, 20241 yr He's been in the papers today threatening to stay on even if he loses the election and confirming he'll at the very least stay on as a constituency MP for the next parliament. Our only hope is him losing his seat - which seems unlikely. He’s such an entitled, arrogant *****.
July 1, 20241 yr In fairness if he’s re elected he has every right to stay as an MP but unlikely he will be in anyone’s shadow cabinet for at least 5 years. IF there’s a hung parliament the tories will have lost seats so will have no authority to remain in coalition!
July 1, 20241 yr Sunak won't be a measurable factor in British politics beyond Friday. Even if he's saying he'll stay on now, that'll all magically change whenever he likes. file that with other fantasy scenarios like a hung parliament in the 2024 election of all things
July 2, 20241 yr Author Sunak won't be a measurable factor in British politics beyond Friday. Even if he's saying he'll stay on now, that'll all magically change whenever he likes. file that with other fantasy scenarios like a hung parliament in the 2024 election of all things Sunak is looking to remain Tory leader until any leadership election - which is slated for December according to the articles I've read. He'll still be a measurable force as unless the Tories have an even worse result than expected he'll be facing off at PMQs. I don't think a hung parliament is a fantasy scenario. The polls are not used to dealing with a four-way split in pretty much every constituency. Reform are going to do much better than expected as are the liberal democrats which could force a hung parliament.
July 2, 20241 yr He'll still be a measurable force as unless the Tories have an even worse result than expected he'll be facing off at PMQs. Nah Lib Dems for Opposition :yahoo: (obviously wont happen :/) Has Sunak ever been a measurable force for the Tories :lol:
July 2, 20241 yr Author The Tories might have actually found an attack line that works on Kier Starmer with this not working past 6pm on a Friday bollocks. Why would Starmer give away such an open goal. Thankfully it's about 6 weeks too late to bother the polls.
July 2, 20241 yr Sunak will be an ex-MP by Christmas. Youd have thought being on 42 he would show his commitment to public service and remain serving his constituents and maybe work with a future tory government into the 2030/40s like say the much more principled Ed Milliband? :D
July 2, 20241 yr Author Youd have thought being on 42 he would show his commitment to public service and remain serving his constituents and maybe work with a future tory government into the 2030/40s like say the much more principled Ed Milliband? :D This is exactly what Sunak has said he'll do. It's everybody else coming up with this narrative he's going to fly off to California at the first opportunity. I hate the guy but I'm getting sick of this narrative.
July 2, 20241 yr The Tories might have actually found an attack line that works on Kier Starmer with this not working past 6pm on a Friday bollocks. Why would Starmer give away such an open goal. Thankfully it's about 6 weeks too late to bother the polls. Seems like petty bollocks to me :lol: So you're right it will probably cut through
July 2, 20241 yr The Tories might have actually found an attack line that works on Kier Starmer with this not working past 6pm on a Friday bollocks. Why would Starmer give away such an open goal. Thankfully it's about 6 weeks too late to bother the polls.Bit of a lazy thing to go for, as that's surely one of the least controversial things he's said and done. I can't think of anything wrong with that.
July 2, 20241 yr Author Bit of a lazy thing to go for, as that's surely one of the least controversial things he's said and done. I can't think of anything wrong with that. There's the reality that the job of PM is a 24/7 role and he's going to be unable to clock off at 6pm on a Friday as he might have been able to as LOTO. The PM works 24/7 - it's part of the job role - if he's wanting to still be able to spend excessive time with his family he could not be suited to the job. This isn't my view by the way, but those looking for an excuse not to vote Labour (the soft Labour vote from ex-Tories) might think this way.
July 2, 20241 yr I doubt people who liked Boris care about a 24/7 PM that guy took a trillion holidays and didn’t take it seriously
July 2, 20241 yr Author I doubt people who liked Boris care about a 24/7 PM that guy took a trillion holidays and didn’t take it seriously He was a Tory leader, they aren't held up to the same level of mental gymnastics to convince them to vote for him from the voters as Labour leaders are. The default vote in this country has always been Tory sadly and they'll pick up votes off the back of this.
July 2, 20241 yr I doubt people who liked Boris care about a 24/7 PM that guy took a trillion holidays and didn’t take it seriouslyThose who liked Boris Johnson that much, despite everything about him that was pretty clear, won't vote for anyone else regardless. I'd be amazed if there's many people still on the fence.
July 2, 20241 yr The Tories might have actually found an attack line that works on Kier Starmer with this not working past 6pm on a Friday bollocks. Why would Starmer give away such an open goal. Thankfully it's about 6 weeks too late to bother the polls. Really don’t think that ‘spends time with his family’ and especially given the reason Starmer said specifically Friday with his Jewish family is going to be a negative for anyone except hoary old workaholics who are all lost to Reform anyway
July 2, 20241 yr Sunak is looking to remain Tory leader until any leadership election - which is slated for December according to the articles I've read. He'll still be a measurable force as unless the Tories have an even worse result than expected he'll be facing off at PMQs. I don't think a hung parliament is a fantasy scenario. The polls are not used to dealing with a four-way split in pretty much every constituency. Reform are going to do much better than expected as are the liberal democrats which could force a hung parliament. With a party that is about to be defeated historically, outside of interviews about that defeat, no he won’t. A hung parliament is absolutely a fantasy scenario. Polls have coped with 4-ways before, 2015 and 2010 had big multi party factors, and every election gives them better failsafes, meanwhile for the past 18 months they’ve all been static in their narrative. Really in the nature of those 4-way constituencies, most of them either have the Reform or Lib Dem vote preventing the Tories from competing. If we get even a Labour majority as small as one that matches the Tory one in 2019 the polls will have been wrong against Labour by a historical margin, let alone them not getting one. Now it does get a bit variable at the higher end hence why the ranges are going from high 300s to low 500s in seats, but I would not expect the Labour seat count to be outside that range. Thing is though, people are not used to this. We always see elections as polls tightening, a surprise at the exit poll, polls disappointing us, the losing party losing badly but still getting 200 seats but I cannot express just how much it won’t be like that this time. There’s just too much evidence and too many macro factors for this to be going any other way - the Tories couldn’t reclaim any momentum with this disastrous campaign, the polls have remained static, and Reform are barely going above 2015’s UKIP while what’s left of the Tory election machine seems primarily focused on stopping that. I have heard of Reform bubbles from various social media which might make it seem like they’re doing well but I’m not putting them above my original prediction of 5 seats and that’s a high water mark. and look if I’m wrong then everyone who gets paid to do this for a living is wrong so I don’t mind
July 2, 20241 yr He was a Tory leader, they aren't held up to the same level of mental gymnastics to convince them to vote for him from the voters as Labour leaders are. The default vote in this country has always been Tory sadly and they'll pick up votes off the back of this. Turnout will be interesting I believe a lot of Tory voters just won’t be bothered enough to vote on the day
July 2, 20241 yr Author Turnout will be interesting I believe a lot of Tory voters just won’t be bothered enough to vote on the day A lot will go to Reform, but many will stay at home. Expecting turnout to be 60-65%.
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