I really don’t think it matters if Reform are on 7% or 17% it won’t stop a Labour win imo. It’s just weather it’s an extinction event or a 97 style landslide. Think it’s more likely to be the latter and the tories will get 150-190 seats. So confident I am is I would stick a new thread about who the Tory leader will be in the leadership election after this!

 

How many votes will the Social Democrats get Brett 😀?

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I reckon the Tories are so clueless that they will now swing even more far right. Blojo will be back, or Suella, or Penny. Penny would be thr biggest threat electorally and not as extreme right

I reckon the Tories are so clueless that they will now swing even more far right. Blojo will be back, or Suella, or Penny. Penny would be thr biggest threat electorally and not as extreme right

 

Many simply won't vote. Could be one of the lowest turnout elections in the modern era.

I really don’t think it matters if Reform are on 7% or 17% it won’t stop a Labour win imo. It’s just weather it’s an extinction event or a 97 style landslide. Think it’s more likely to be the latter and the tories will get 150-190 seats. So confident I am is I would stick a new thread about who the Tory leader will be in the leadership election after this!

 

How many votes will the Social Democrats get Brett 😀?

 

Yeah the local election data suggestions Reform are pulling voters away from the Conservatives. not Labour. Really different to UKIP who were pulling votes from both sides.

 

The Reform angle will be to try and win a couple if seats, then influence the Tories to move further to the Right.

Many simply won't vote. Could be one of the lowest turnout elections in the modern era.

 

I wonder if the voter ID thing will cause lower turnout and potentially hurt the conservatives own voter base.

 

I personally think we might be surprised and see a fairly good/high turnout with how many people are fed up of the current government.

 

Hoping that tactical voting occurs to unseat many conservative MPs. Although I don't think that will happen as Labour will likely not agree a pact with the Lib Dems/Greens.

Yeah the local election data suggestions Reform are pulling voters away from the Conservatives. not Labour. Really different to UKIP who were pulling votes from both sides.

 

The Reform angle will be to try and win a couple if seats, then influence the Tories to move further to the Right.

 

Let’s be honest they don’t need MPs to move the tories to the right the media and the party itself will continue to do that, Farage never got voted in to a British parliament ever and he’s had more influence than anyone in British politics in the past 40 years and he’s changed the Tory party already.

Yes noticeably Farage has again chickened out at standing as an MP for Reform - doesn't want yet ANOTHER loss. Reform won't win any seats at all and will flop badly.

I wonder if the voter ID thing will cause lower turnout and potentially hurt the conservatives own voter base.

 

I personally think we might be surprised and see a fairly good/high turnout with how many people are fed up of the current government.

 

Hoping that tactical voting occurs to unseat many conservative MPs. Although I don't think that will happen as Labour will likely not agree a pact with the Lib Dems/Greens.

Tactical voting can happen without a formal pact. Voters can see for themselves who is best placed to defeat Tory MPs and opposition parties will concentrate their efforts on seats they can win. In my home county of Sussex (East and West), Labour will ignore Lewes and Eastbourne while the Lib Dems will do nothing in Crawley.

With reform I see them being 2nd/3rd a lot but not winning a seat and I don't think voters will care anymore if they cost Tories seats to labour etc

Tories still looking for candidates in 100 seats including my own with a 48 hour deadline. Many of them are Labour safe seats but you'd think you'd have candidates lined up before you call an election.

 

John Redwood and Michael Gove have both joined the long list of Tory MPs who won’t be contesting the election. They, along with Dominic Raab, represent seats being targeted by the Lib Dems. That’s three potential Portillo moments gone.

They’re just cowards!

Gove again just being a wet blanket.

John Redwood seems to have been an MP since the dawn of time and he has been utterly loathsome on every issue ever especially hard Brexit. Really can't stand him. Good effing riddance

 

Andrea Leadsom standing down as well now.

Andrea Leadsom standing down as well now.

 

To think that vile person was once a hair's breadth from becoming the PM :drama:

Can't wait to see all of those above out of the government *_* I hope even more don't stand and quit/retire.

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Tories still looking for candidates in 100 seats including my own with a 48 hour deadline. Many of them are Labour safe seats but you'd think you'd have candidates lined up before you call an election.

what a mess *____*

Rats fleeing a sinking ship if ever I saw one.

It really annoys me that they won’t be judged in July like they should!