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There must be some explanation because Spotify’s user base hasn’t more than doubled over the past year has it? There have been huge outlier hits before but never so many in such a short space of time. Since Stick Season I’d say the numbers at the top have just gone insane

 

Have other countries seen similar increases or is this a UK thing?

 

American numbers gone up huge too. 4 mill a day was huge when ‘like that” was doing well but since then some songs have got 5 and 6 mill

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Spotify Chart Update (10/06)

 

:up: 01 03 Sabrina Carpenter – Please Please Please 949,330 [*PEAK*]

:down: 02 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 848,028

:down: 03 02 Eminem – Houdini 770,931

:right: 04 04 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 763,755

:up: 05 10 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY 524,614

:right: 06 06 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 520,268

:down: 07 05 Hozier – Too Sweet 518,109

:down: 08 07 Central Cee, Lil Baby – BAND4BAND (feat. Lil Baby) 504,164

:down: 09 08 Billie Eilish – LUNCH 480,308

:down: 10 09 Myles Smith – Stargazing 445,818

 

:up: 11 12 Post Malone, Morgan Wallen – I Had Some Help (Feat. Morgan Wallen) 389,978

:down: 12 11 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 375,518

:right: 13 13 Dasha – Austin (Boots Stop Workin') 372,276

:up: 14 15 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 325,089

:down: 15 14 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 318,550

:right: 16 16 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 315,794

:right: 17 17 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me 311,892

:right: 18 18 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 302,032

:right: 19 19 Billie Eilish – CHIHIRO 292,227

:right: 20 20 Benson Boone – Slow It Down 276,355

 

:up: 21 22 Kendrick Lamar – Not Like Us 259,202

:up: 22 23 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 248,804

:up: 23 24 Mark Ambor – Belong Together 238,292

:up: 24 25 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start 227,694

:down: 25 21 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 226,773

:up: 26 27 Billie Eilish – WILDFLOWER 220,241

:down: 27 26 Djo – End of Beginning 216,871

:up: 28 29 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 213,893

:down: 29 28 Vance Joy – Riptide 186,621

:right: 30 30 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love) 182,249

 

:up: 31 41 Charli xcx – 360 171,652 [*PEAK*]

:up: 32 37 Zach Bryan – Pink Skies 168,040

:down: 33 32 Taylor Swift – Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 167,006

:down: 34 31 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 164,480

:up: 35 38 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait 162,796

:up: 36 39 Billie Eilish – L’AMOUR DE MA VIE 162,337

:down: 37 33 Taylor Swift – Down Bad 158,284

:down: 38 36 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 156,082

:up: 39 48 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 154,311

:up: 40 46 Billie Eilish – BLUE 148,627

 

:down: 42 34 Gracie Abrams – Close To You 144,381

:up: 48 67 Flex (UK), Nate Dogg – 6 In the Morning (feat. Nate Dogg) 141,051 [*PEAK*]

:up: 50 57 Gunna – one of wun 138,596

:down: 53 43 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited 134,310

:up: 56 85 Chappell Roan – HOT TO GO! 125,791 [*PEAK*]

:up: 58 80 Fred again.., Anderson .Paak, CHIKA – places to be 123,906

:down: 63 56 Tems – Love Me JeJe 120,459

:up: 70 76 Teddy Swims – The Door 117,905

:up: 73 120 Chappell Roan – Red Wine Supernova 115,585 [*PEAK*]

:up: 89 101 NewEra – Birds In The Sky 107,172

:up: 97 197 Royel Otis – Linger - SiriusXM Session 102,229 [*PEAK*]

:up: 100 107 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only 101,301

 

:up: 101 166 Charli xcx – Von dutch 101,178

:up: 104 139 Lithe – Fall Back 100,824

:up: 115 150 Tinashe – Nasty 99,314 [*PEAK*]

:up: 121 156 Charli xcx – Talk talk 97,872

:re: 126 RE PAWSA, Nate Dogg – PICK UP THE PHONE (feat. Nate Dogg) 96,719 [*PEAK*]

:re: 134 RE Zerb, The Chainsmokers, Ink – Addicted 94,025

:re: 161 RE Pozer – Malicious Intentions 88,283

:down: 163 157 Olivia Rodrigo – obsessed 88,112

:down: 184 179 Kairo Keyz – GANG 83,458

:re: 189 RE Alex Warren – Carry You Home 82,777 [*PEAK*]

:re: 199 RE Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Tiësto, Dido, W&W, Dimitri Vegas, Like Mike – Thank You (Not So Bad) 80,918

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Apple Music Chart Update (11/06)

 

:right: 01 01 Eminem - Houdini

:up: 02 03 Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please

:down: 03 02 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso

:right: 04 04 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)

:right: 05 05 Hozier - Too Sweet

:right: 06 06 Myles Smith - Stargazing

:right: 07 07 Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)

:up: 08 10 Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER

:down: 09 08 Central Cee & Lil Baby - BAND4BAND

:down: 10 09 Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen)

 

:right: 11 11 Dasha - Austin (Boots Stop Workin')

:right: 12 12 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things

:right: 13 13 Teddy Swims - Lose Control

:right: 14 14 Billie Eilish - LUNCH

:right: 15 15 Noah Kahan - Stick Season

:right: 16 16 Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer

:right: 17 17 Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With a Broken Heart

:right: 18 18 Mark Ambor - Belong Together

:right: 19 19 The Blessed Madonna - Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas)

:right: 20 20 Billie Eilish - CHIHIRO

 

:right: 21 21 Charli xcx - 360

:right: 22 22 Teddy Swims - The Door

:right: 23 23 Tems - Love Me JeJe

:right: 24 24 Marshmello & Kane Brown - Miles On It

:right: 25 25 Artemas - i like the way you kiss me

:up: 26 28 Dua Lipa - Illusion

:up: 27 30 Taylor Swift - Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?

:down: 28 26 Rudimental & Skepsis - Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan)

:down: 29 27 Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love)

:down: 30 29 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us

 

:up: 31 32 Taylor Swift - Down Bad

:down: 32 31 Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER

:up: 33 35 Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him

:down: 34 33 Taylor Swift - Lover

:down: 35 34 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero

:up: 36 37 David Guetta & OneRepublic - I Don't Wanna Wait

:down: 37 36 Michael Marcagi - Scared To Start

:right: 38 38 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!

:right: 39 39 Benson Boone - Slow It Down

:up: 40 41 Taylor Swift - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived

 

:up: 41 42 Becky Hill - Right Here

:up: 42 54 Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY

:down: 43 40 NewEra - Birds In The Sky

:up: 44 46 Disclosure - She’s Gone, Dance On

:right: 47 47 RAYE - Genesis.

:up: 48 52 Perrie - Forget About Us

:up: 58 60 Nathan Dawe - We Ain't Here For Long

:up: 61 62 Gunna - one of wun

:right: 65 65 Zach Bryan - Pink Skies

:up: 70 72 Alok, Tazi & Samuele Sartini - Seek Love (On The Beach) [feat. Amanda Wilson & York]

:up: 74 80 Sonny Fodera - Mind Still (feat. blythe)

:right: 79 79 Darkoo & Dess Dior - Favourite Girl

:up: 90 99 Kygo & Zak Abel - For Life (feat. Nile Rodgers)

:up: 91 93 Rag'n'Bone Man - What Do You Believe In?

:down: 100 96 Fred again.., Anderson .Paak & CHIKA - places to be

 

:down: 109 107 John Summit, Sub Focus & Julia Church - Go Back

:up: 125 126 Tems - Get it Right (feat. Asake)

:up: 133 142 PAWSA - PICK UP THE PHONE (feat. Nate Dogg)

:down: 140 130 Gracie Abrams - Close To You

:down: 149 145 Myles Smith - Solo

:up: 181 186 Majestic, The Jammin Kid & Céline Dion - Set My Heart On Fire (I'm Alive x And The Beat Goes On)

Sabrina with over a 1m today :o

 

Also "because I liked a boy" enters the top 200 for the first time :wub:

Why is Charli's 'Talk Talk' up 52 places to #69? Does it have playlisting somewhere?

 

Tinashe added to Hot Hits UK!

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There must be some explanation because Spotify’s user base hasn’t more than doubled over the past year has it? There have been huge outlier hits before but never so many in such a short space of time. Since Stick Season I’d say the numbers at the top have just gone insane

 

Have other countries seen similar increases or is this a UK thing?

It's something I've been trying to pin down all year. Spotify's numbers are always growing but it usually manifests itself in the lower end of the chart, and more often in catalogue streams. Specifically I've been following the Australian stats closely and the number of catalogue songs in the top 200 has been steadily increasing since around 2018...except now in 2024 it's sharply shifted in the other direction. There's something I think to be said about a general influx of new and noteworthy releases which splashes over in general (for instance, I find the charts are at their most stagnant when there aren't big releases, but those catalogue tracks tend to get extra-dislodged when something big comes out). With that in mind, it's hard to say whether or not it's an aberration when you get a big new release if you just keep getting them. Maybe big new releases should be considered the norm now?

 

I do think the auto-play stuff warrants study and analysis too. All things considered, the cycle rate at the top of the chart just doesn't quite feel natural in all my years of watching it, but I need to keep watching it to be sure. Christmas for sure will be an interesting one to document.

Spotify

 

:left: 01. Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please (1,031,787)

:left: 02. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso (869,525)

:up: 03. Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER (770,830)

:down: 04. Eminem - Houdini (736,315)

:up: 17. Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!

:down: 32. Charli XCX - 360

:down: 34. Zach Bryan - Pink Skies

:left: 35. David Guetta - I Don't Wanna Wait

:up: 39. Sabrina Carpenter - Feather

:up: 45. Flex UK - 6 in the Morning

:up: 49. Teddy Swims - The Door

:down: 54. Gracie Abrams - Close to you

:up: 56. Fred again.. - places to be

:down: 57. Chappell Roan - HOT TO GO!

:up: 69. Charli XCX - Talk talk

:left: 73. Chappell Roan - Red Wine Supernova

:up: 74. Zerb, Chainsmokers & Ink - Addicted

:up: 92. Charli XCX - von dutch

:up: 108. Tinashe - Nasty

:re: 116. Disclosure - She Gone, Dance On

:up: 124. Charli XCX - Sympathy is a Knife

:re: 143. BL3SS - Kisses

:up: 167. Ariana Grande - The Boy is Mine

:ne: 182. Sabrina Carpenter - because i liked a boy

:ne: 195. Dominic Fike - Misses

:re: 199. Charli XCX - club classics

Edited by ElectroBoy

It's something I've been trying to pin down all year. Spotify's numbers are always growing but it usually manifests itself in the lower end of the chart, and more often in catalogue streams. Specifically I've been following the Australian stats closely and the number of catalogue songs in the top 200 has been steadily increasing since around 2018...except now in 2024 it's sharply shifted in the other direction. There's something I think to be said about a general influx of new and noteworthy releases which splashes over in general (for instance, I find the charts are at their most stagnant when there aren't big releases, but those catalogue tracks tend to get extra-dislodged when something big comes out). With that in mind, it's hard to say whether or not it's an aberration when you get a big new release if you just keep getting them. Maybe big new releases should be considered the norm now?

 

I do think the auto-play stuff warrants study and analysis too. All things considered, the cycle rate at the top of the chart just doesn't quite feel natural in all my years of watching it, but I need to keep watching it to be sure. Christmas for sure will be an interesting one to document.

Yep, and if the Christmas streams don't skyrocket to outer space (which they should considering the bigger number of people allegedly streaming right now) it's very interesting. The daily streams at the top of the charts have almost doubled in a year.

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From my own personal point of view and I can't even think why it was but from 2020 to late 2023 I barely used spotify or paid attention to the charts, it was just clogged up by shitty American rap and it was uninteresting. Not saying that's the reason but for me personally that's how I felt and only listenened to EDM type stuff. I think everything has fully recovered from the pandemic now. The whole celeb/music scene and peoples finances
With those figures, Please Please Please could go #1 next week and shame Houdini is falling and being overtaken by a Billie album track
hoping to see ‘misses’ become at least a top 40 hit but part of me worries that if it was going to it would have happened by now :no:
Wonder if Please Please will be no1 this week?

 

I think its too far behind (judging by mondays chart prediction post) - although will be interesting in todays update how close the gap is between Houdini, Espresso and PPP.

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Wonder if Please Please will be no1 this week?

It was already number one 18 years ago and McFly have released loads more singles since then ;)

Tinashe added to Hot Hits UK!
Yay! ‘Nasty’ is nowhere near my favourite Tinashe song, but I am so so pleased to see it taking off for her! She deserves every bit of success she gets :wub:
Wonder if Please Please will be no1 this week?

I don’t think so but I do think it could block Birds Of A Feather from the Top 3. :arrr:

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