How often do superstar collaborations really ever live up to the hype and expectation though?

 

Rain On Me feels like an exception to the rule but history is littered with collaborations that on paper should have been massive and just weren't. Whitney and George; Ariana, Lana and Miley; Shakira and Rihanna;. None of these careers were affected in any way or represented how popular the artists were independently of the collaborations.

 

For me the song sounds decent, in the same way that I found Hold My Hand decent but not great. That was a middling top 40 hit for a few weeks that didn't harm Gaga's career in any way, and this won't either. I expected a top 15 debut (certainly not No.1 - Thursday was the first time I heard anything about its existence so that's not long to build hype) and it's a little lower but no massive disaster.

 

The Popjustice forum as was mentioned earlier bears as much resemblance to real world hype as Buzzjack does - i.e. very little. We're all just invested pop fans on music forums who are inevitably going to get wind of stuff happening ahead of the general public and react to it/hype stuff up, it doesn't really mean anything as to what will happen in reality.

I can really see this Gaga / Bruno track doing well in the long run.

 

Streaming wise based on their own debuts and not looking into 2024 as a whole I think it’s done well enough. Bruno’s biggest debut and Gaga’s second biggest.

 

I think the general public will be kinda here for this though (I may be a Gaga stan but I can definitely see this taking off once it reaches a wider audience). Let’s see what happens post debut but I’m not too worried about those debut numbers when I look at it from her debuts and not the market as a whole.

 

 

Die with a Smile up to #23 on Apple Music!

 

Guess down to #17, thought that would hold better tbh

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I think we should allow debate on it. Doesn’t mean the thread will go downhill, it might even be more interesting than usual if we allow it to progress.

 

Both Gaga and Bruno have reached a point where they don’t need the hits anymore. They’ve been there, they’ve done that, both can just focus on what they want to do. Gaga in particular is so versatile that whatever she does will have its fans. Not everyone that bops along to The Fame will have been that into A Star Is Born yet both were hugely successful. Her only career misstep IMO was Artpop because she became awfully pretentious and the music didn’t really follow her in that direction.

 

I think this is a decent song but it won’t blow the charts away-it may be a middling long running hit but these two don’t need the huge no.1s so it doesn’t really matter.

 

;)

 

Yeh true, I was saying it in a tongue in cheek sort of way because people were starting to debate whether two big artists were flopping or not :P Let’s hope it can stay civilised!

 

 

Lady GaGa hasn’t been one of the biggest names In pop music for a decade now.

 

She’s had two hits in the past 10 years; both aren’t even solo hits and have relied on either a bigger current superstar who had had a trial of number 1 hits in the past year (Ariana) or a movie. She just doesn’t have the fans anymore, jt died from all of her albums after Born to die.

 

It’d be like expecting Jess Glynnes return to smash.

 

This is an absolute nonsense. Her last album sold over 50k first week in the UK and was one of the fastest selling albums of that year. She’s still a very big name.

The worldwide numbers are great! It'd be interesting to compare this to other females in Gaga's camp (not Jess Glynne lmao).

 

What did the latest singles by Beyoncé, Katy Perry, Dua Lipa, Miley Cyrus etc do worldwide for example. :thinking: is this miles behind those or were people expecting more than these names because I wasn't!

It was actually Bruno's BEST debut on Spotify globally. Leave the Door Open debuted with 4.1M.

 

Miley's latest hit Used to Be Young reached #10 in the US and #14 in the UK. Dua's Illusion reached #11 in the UK and #31 in the US.

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for what it's worth Jess Glynne's whole discography had 1,868,173 streams yesterday so Die With A Smile has outdone that over twofold Lol

Go Queen Jess getting almost 2 mil streams a day 🤩

for what it's worth Jess Glynne's whole discography had 1,868,173 streams yesterday so Die With A Smile has outdone that over twofold Lol

 

Lol

This is an absolute nonsense. Her last album sold over 50k first week in the UK and was one of the fastest selling albums of that year. She’s still a very big name.

That album dropped out of the charts like a bag of sick, compare it to folklore longetivity as an example. After 6 weeks it was free falling. It was hardly a hit album or a contender for one of the biggest albums of 2020; I just checked it wasn’t in top 20. I don’t understand why people are shocked her music isn’t able to hit the top of the charts.

 

A legacy artist is always going to have heavy first week sales; even Ellie Goulding can make #1 on first week sales, doesn’t mean she’s the biggest name in pop now.

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That album dropped out of the charts like a bag of sick, compare it to folklore longetivity as an example. After 6 weeks it was free falling. It was hardly a hit album or a contender for one of the biggest albums of 2020; I just checked it wasn’t in top 20. I don’t understand why people are shocked her music isn’t able to hit the top of the charts.

 

A legacy artist is always going to have heavy first week sales; even Ellie Goulding can make #1 on first week sales, doesn’t mean she’s the biggest name in pop now.

Nobody has said she is THE biggest name in pop now. :wacko:

This! Same with ‘Sprinter’ being so huge the year after Dave’s last album!

Sprinter was 2 years after Dave's last album tbf but was just over 1 year after his previous #1 of Starlight

It could either climb up or drop down the chart for Gaga Mars. It's only been out a day.

It could either climb up or drop down the chart for Gaga Mars. It's only been out a day.

 

No No Mack, Buzzjack has already declared flop status therefore it must be true

Just seen Bruno Mars hasn’t been in the UK Top 10 since the second week of January 2017!

Just seen Bruno Mars hasn’t been in the UK Top 10 since the second week of January 2017!

 

His last solo album is 8 years ago now! Really hope we'll get a new album from him this year or next (I believe we are close to one based on rumours/speculation!)

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Just seen Bruno Mars hasn’t been in the UK Top 10 since the second week of January 2017!

 

Do you mean streaming or the actual chart because Finesse got to #5 in early 2018

Sprinter was 2 years after Dave's last album tbf but was just over 1 year after his previous #1 of Starlight

 

True! Forgot about that, so Dave’s last album was 2021, he needs a return!

That album dropped out of the charts like a bag of sick, compare it to folklore longetivity as an example. After 6 weeks it was free falling. It was hardly a hit album or a contender for one of the biggest albums of 2020; I just checked it wasn’t in top 20. I don’t understand why people are shocked her music isn’t able to hit the top of the charts.

 

A legacy artist is always going to have heavy first week sales; even Ellie Goulding can make #1 on first week sales, doesn’t mean she’s the biggest name in pop now.

 

A bag of sick :lol: