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Spice is at 11million in the USA

https://x.com/chartsartists/status/1937650936824180920?s=46&t=nU-c2Mr7_v8u8Yi48exTKg

However, a fan shared this which I never knew about. Does anyone have any more information or is this only fan-made crap?

The Spice Girls took legal action against Virgin/Emi in the late 90s, claiming that there were "missing" sales in USA and Australia, at least. For instance, there were "missing" sales/audit of Spice album in Australia and missing sales reports/records for three months of cassette sales. The groups lawyers claimed there were missing worldwide sales for too much single and missing sales in US and incorrect and diminished royalty payments. The smashing pumpkins also sued Virgin too. The Spice Girls asked for an audit of all worldwide sales. In the mid 2000s, it was reported that Spice had sold more than a Will Smith album in the US, which had sales of around 9.6 million. Several US publications said Spice sold over 10 million, including club sales and bmg sales. It was not certified diamond as Virgin/emi/universal will not pay for recertifications. Some report claimed Spice had sales of around 200k a year in the US ? The 7.5 million figure for Spice is based on the figure from around 1998. Their lawyers, who the beckhams still use, were claiming poor accounting and inaccurate sales figures. Their court papers alleged sales figures for japan and Germany were inaccurate too. I don't know the outcome or the legal action.

I was wondering the same as I have legit never heard about that before!?

Just googled it and literally nothing at all!?

We gotta ask that guy where he got it from!!!

4 hours ago, Mr.X said:

We gotta ask that guy where he got it from!!!

His own head probs lol

Lawyers for the Spice Girls have demanded a detailed audit of the band's record sales.

London-based solicitors Lee & Thompson, who act for the band, have sent a memo to Virgin Records senior legal director Paul Kernick, asking for more information about the group's sales in America, a spokeswoman for the Spice Girls confirmed.

However, she insisted the audit was a normal procedure.

It is the first audit to be carried out on the band and will cover their record sales in the UK, Europe, America, and Australia.

LAWYERS for the Spice Girls are trying to find out where millions of pounds from worldwide record sales have gone.

They are demanding detailed explanations from Virgin Records about figures for the UK, Europe, America and Australia.

And they are ready to send accountants to America to question Virgin chiefs there about apparent discrepancies in their accounts.

In the UK alone, the girls could have a claim for pounds 1.8 million.

In documents stamped "Virgin Audit" and seen by the Sunday Mirror, the Spice Girls' London-based solicitors Lee & Thompson raise questions over missing income in Virgin's published accounts.

Spice Girls lawyer Andrew Thompson wants to know if Virgin may have taken a bigger cut of record sales in America than agreed.

In a memo to Virgin Records, senior legal director Paul Kernick, Mr Thompson says: "We do think it is very important to have further access to Virgin Records America.

"The auditors have discovered that in the USA, reserves have been taken in excess of what is permitted.

"I do not think it is enough for the auditors to ask questions which you in turn relay to Virgin in Los Angeles - they will need to carry out some site work."

Mr Thompson's fears are based on a report drawn up by Mike Skeet, of auditing firm Royalty Compliance Organisation, who has pinpointed shortfalls in Spice Girls' revenues around the world. Mr Skeet says: "Virgin appears to have taken huge reserves in the US, far in excess of 15 per cent or 25 per cent for advertised records."

"In Australia,there is no reporting of sales between December 1997 and February 1998 for the SpiceWorld album. Also, there is no reporting of cassette single sales for Wannabe for May 1997."

ok that makes sense. But do you have a link/source?

Also, seems like any bad blood with Elliott Kennedy might be over. He gave a recent interview to the Mirror and spoke really highly of them. Elliott is, to my knowlege, the writer who had the most leaks (out of his own fault!) and after the Forever pop tracks, Song for Her and Geri's 4th album all leaked, their relationship was soured. He was no-where to be seen during the Spice25 and Spiceworld25 campaigns, nor the 2019 tour, for instance, which many speculated was weird.

ANYWAY! This might work well for future aniversary editions coming up (Forever25 and any 30-year celebrations next year!)

This is what he said:

"They literally crashed at my house," Elliot said. "This was before they had a manager and they were transitioning from the guy that put them together, who was obviously a visionary in his own right, and then we helped connect him to Simon Fuller.

"But they were amazing and fantastic girls. Their energy was off the scale and the most difficult thing was containing the energy because they were a million miles an hour.

"They had so many ideas that, for a songwriter, was just fantastic. I have nothing but amazing memories from working with them. As I say, they crashed at my house and we just became like family and it's lovely that they went out and changed the world. Being a part of that wave was remarkable and life changing and life affirming in all kinds of ways.

"They were just fantastic people and still are and I have a great deal of respect for them all. They worked really bloody hard and deserved everything they got. It was charming and funny and crazy and it was brilliant to be a part of it."

They do love to randomly drop that Spiceworld globe on social media without any more context hey? LOL

Admiral Sports is big though, good for them I guess?

What is Admiral Sports?

2 hours ago, Spiceboy said:

What is Admiral Sports?

loll pretty big sports clothing company

Football shirt:

Admiral Sports

Admiral x Spice Girls 'Spiceworld' Football Shirt

The Admiral x Spice Girls 'Spiceworld' football shirt is where football heritage meets pop culture history. Created in celebration of two British icons, this limited-edition shirt blends Admiral’s...

that's it?...

Seems so!

Surprised they didn't do shorts / socks!

I mean it's cute enough I guess. Melanie C should definitely wear it. Not for me at all though.

Seems like it's a hit, it's now sold out on its first day across both the Admiral and the girls' websites... but still some available through that link below.

I wonder if they will do more? It certainly bodes well for their partnership that it sold out

The whole situation between Mel B and Geri seems really stark lately... they seemingly have completely fallen out, to the point that Geri hasnt even aknowleged Mel B's wedding in any way and has kept a distance for a while...

While the UK press (trash) keeps saying that it is because of how Mel B reveleaved that they had a one night thing, I think it goes much deeper than that... Somehow, they seemed to have fallen out properly around the time when Geri and Christian had a very public cheating scandal last year, at least...

Lets be clear:

2019 - ahead of the tour

• early in the year, Mel B goes on (fascist-adjancent, moron, Israel-loving) Piers Morgan TV show and states that her and Geri had a one night stand. While this is not news for anyone, somehow this becomes 'scandalous news'. Both had said it over the years or at least hinted at it for ages...

• Geri releases a statement saying that it was hurting her family.

• We all know that Mel B shouldnt 'out someone' without their consent, but Gerita's statement reeked of 'I am a posh person now and such dwealings aren't very proper now that I have a posh family' and to be honest, reekes of a little bit of homophobia. This is the same Geri who herself has mentioned and/or hinted she had lesbian affairs throughout her career. Now, she seemed against it.

• The girls go on tour anyway, and Geri and Mel seemingly have made amends, and they hand out after the tour as well. Mel B even goes to Geri's husbands' car-racing 'shows' and they are snapped througout the year together.

2020

• The group go on hiatus after all plans get cancelled by 1) Geri not wanting to tour anymore (and mentioned by both Mel C and Emma) and 2) by COVID cancelling all their plans

• Rumours somehow go around that the girls are still planning things but noting comes from it

2021

• None of the girls promote Spice25 apart from Mel C. Clearly the group isn't very 'together' anymore.

• Rumours start to fly that the group is over because COVID broke all their plans and they have 'move on' to other projects

2022 - 2024

• Various plans are annouced and then cancelled including the annimated movie and various 'planned' tours.

• Geri announces she is releasing - and focusing on- her children's books 'Rosie Frost'. Whilst the book gets to #4 on a random New York Times Best Sellers list, it flops everywhere else.

• Spiceworld25 campaign goes live without any of the grils promoting it, and their absence is even more clearly stated than during Spice25. Most of them jsut share the original post on their instagram stories and call it quites. Various merch is released on their webstore without any promo.

• Clearly, the group is over. Yet, Mel B and Mel C and Emma all voice their intent to carry on. Geri and Victoria keep saying they are done with it.

2024

• The year starts with a BIG BANG with two projects announcing the groups' 30th anniversary:

  • UK's Royal Mail Limited Edition Stamps - all the girls post on instagram and seemingly shout about the whole '30 years' angle. Speculation goes rife about this being the big year for the band to celebrate 30 years in the business.

  • Liverpool's British Music Experience exhibition on the group's music

• Emma joins Mel C's show at Koko in London to celebrate MC's 50th anniversary. The rest of the girls send in a video message. It looks like they are all together and hints of the 30th anniversary keep dropping.

• Then, Geri's husband gets caught in a cheating scandal. His dick pics are leaked online.

• During the scandal, Geri makes a move to show a united front with her husband, showing up with him everywhere.

• During this scandal, Mel B posts this criptic message on twitter/X: Today was sooo shocking and heart wrenchingfor me!No woman should EVER be made to feel like I did today I was devastated,shamed and traumatized.Learn respect learn compassion and LEARN how to uplift other women #triggered #geteducated #womensaid #girlpower

• The group goes completelt quiet again. The press speculates that all group projects are over because Geri has decided to focus on Rosie Frost and her husband. Mel B seems really cross, even seemingly being pissed about Geri and her husband, calling him 'that man' and saying they aren't talking in a fan-driven show during her promo campaign for her 'Brutally honest' book re-release.

• Eventually they all turn up to Victoria's 50th birthday celebrations and sing Stop and Mama together. It goes viral. Yet, Mel B and Geri don't seem to interact at all.

• Mel B goes on Instagram and states that Vicky and Geri are not keen on touring or any group projects, seemingly feeling defeated and saying 'oh well, maybe next year'.... but it all looks quite over...

2025

• Geri is clearly focused on Rosie Frost work. She even mentions she has another book coming out and acts quite condescending about the group in interviews. She is quite excited about a 'big hollywood producer' having the rights to turn it into a movie. She refuses to acknowlege any possible group reunion.

• Mel B and Geri seem completely over. In Mel B's sting with a BBC TV presenter special programme, Alison Hammond's Big Weekend', Mel states that she and Geri aren't talking.

• Geri fails to acknowlege - let alone turn up - to any of Mel B's wedding or borthday celebrations. It feels really pointed...

Sorry, I just had to lay it all out... It seems like somehow they fell out last year properly around Christian's cheating scandal and Geri's intent to stay by her husband and her children's books.

Really would love some inside gossip about what really really happened.... All the girls seem to be rallying around Mel B whereas Geri seems completely over it...