You're right I guess, maybe it's cos I fail to see his appeal

what I don't get in 2025 is why no songs are exploding in streams... only Alex is capable of >500K, the rest are barely doing 300K max. Old Phone on day 2 didn't even do 100K.

Even Alex at #1 is doing over 500K but just so. That's so True was doing much better figures.

I see Alex Warren more like a Noah Kahan type of thing than a "Tiktok artist". Ordinary is likely to be his chart peak though, like Stick Season was Noah's.

1 hour ago, Bjork said:

You're right I guess, maybe it's cos I fail to see his appeal

what I don't get in 2025 is why no songs are exploding in streams... only Alex is capable of >500K, the rest are barely doing 300K max. Old Phone on day 2 didn't even do 100K.

Even Alex at #1 is doing over 500K but just so. That's so True was doing much better figures.

Least you admit your own bias 🤣

2 hours ago, Bjork said:

I think he has more chances of missing the top 100 than dethroning himself, that's what tiktok artists re in 2025

🫠It will be interesting to see exactly how it does but this is a very bizarre view.

We'll see I guess. I think it's more of a bizarre view thinking he will replace himself at #1 but alas

I know typically those who have viral hits struggle to get follow-ups, but let's not forget that four of Alex's five charting hits actually made the top 100 in their first week of release (Before You Leave Me debuted top 100 in its second week of release) so he's obviously been building a following already. Burning Down even debuted top 40, so I'd be shocked if his next release didn't chart at all.

I think the idea of him dethroning himself is probably unlikely, on debut at least, though it's not impossible. Even Please Please Please "only" debuted at #3 (Sabrina's best debut position, until Taste of course) after how huge Espresso had become, albeit on sales of 78k but that says a lot about the sales landscape of early to mid 2024! I'd say whatever comes next will probably need some sort of viral presence already to come anywhere near #1, certainly in terms of a debut, but I'd be gobsmacked if it didn't chart at least top 40.

1. Ordinary - 511,386 (up 1k on last week)

2. Love me not - 327,228

3. Pink Pony - 289,921

4. Undressed - 279,497

5. BOAF - 260,840

6. That’s so true - 253,360

7. Messy - 243,257

8. back to friends  - 242,037

9. GLB - 222,342

10. Apt - 221,752

Charli keeps rising

Spotify Chart Update (04/05)

01 01 Alex Warren – Ordinary 511,386

02 02 Ravyn Lenae – Love Me Not 327,228

03 03 Chappell Roan – Pink Pony Club 289,921

04 05 sombr – undressed 279,497 PEAK

05 06 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 260,840

06 07 Gracie Abrams – That’s So True 253,360

07 04 Lola Young – Messy 243,257

08 10 sombr – back to friends 242,037 PEAK

09 09 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 222,342

10 08 ROSÉ, Bruno Mars – APT. 221,752

11 11 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 215,756

12 13 Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars – Die With A Smile 211,570

13 17 Gigi Perez – Sailor Song 204,658

14 14 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 200,156

15 12 WizTheMc, bees & honey – Show Me Love 196,225

16 15 Chrystal, NOTION – The Days - NOTION Remix 188,345

17 16 Sabrina Carpenter – Taste 187,203

18 19 Ed Sheeran – Azizam 180,201

19 18 Tate McRae – Sports car 179,375

20 20 Myles Smith – Stargazing 176,416

21 26 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 168,972

22 23 Hozier – Too Sweet 168,056

23 22 Drake – NOKIA 168,014

24 21 Sabrina Carpenter – Busy Woman 167,953

25 39 Dream Supplier, Baby Sleeps, Background White Noise – Clean Baby Sleep White Noise (Loopable) 166,341

26 24 Benson Boone – Sorry I'm Here For Someone Else 161,670

27 27 Tate McRae – Revolving door 159,800

28 25 Doechii – Anxiety 158,248

29 28 Alex Warren – Carry You Home 157,824

30 31 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 153,328

31 30 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 152,947

32 34 Fleetwood Mac – Dreams - 2004 Remaster 152,189

33 35 Kendrick Lamar, SZA – All The Stars (with SZA) 149,919

34 29 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 147,515

35 38 Charli xcx – party 4 u 144,924

36 42 Lady Gaga – Abracadabra 142,285

37 32 Myles Smith – Nice To Meet You 141,679

38 43 The Goo Goo Dolls – Iris 139,940

39 44 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 139,582

40 46 Lil Tecca – Dark Thoughts 137,713

45 36 Lorde – What Was That 129,977

60 69 d4vd – Feel It 112,801

62 54 MOLIY, Silent Addy, Skillibeng, Shenseea – Shake It To The Max (FLY) - Remix 110,189

63 60 Jack Black – Steve's Lava Chicken 109,868

74 62 WizTheMc, bees & honey, Tyla – Show Me Love (with Tyla) 102,973

81 NE Ely Oaks, LAVINIA – Borderline 97,671 PEAK

85 77 Benson Boone – Mystical Magical 96,768

89 70 Morgan Seatree, Florence + The Machine – Say My Name - Remix 95,893

101 87 Ely Oaks – Running Around 89,748

102 102 Leon Thomas – MUTT 89,388

109 122 JENNIE – like JENNIE 87,434

123 151 KATSEYE – Gnarly 84,447 PEAK

175 112 Ed Sheeran – Old Phone 73,902

180 RE Sydney Rose – We Hug Now 73,111

185 149 Addison Rae – Headphones On 72,338

197 RE Lizzy McAlpine – Spring Into Summer 71,093

Ravyn #2 for the first time even after combining 'Show Me Love'

Ely Oaks on for another hit?

Those numbers are shocking even 200k was needed minimum 30 not long ago now only top 14

Old Phone down to #175 on day 3! Unbelievable!

Not that I'm going to try and defend 175 on Day 3, but it really feels a bit soon for Ed's second official single to me, Azizam is a month old and a lot of people are still getting into that, such is the way of the slow charts. If the album isn't out until September, I don't get why official single No.2 is out in May.

Either way, the song doesn't sound like a hit to me (whereas Azizam did, and has been) and I said as much on first listen on Friday. It's not a very easy singalong/radio type song as it's so personal to Ed. I'm surprised he's made it a single, it would have made sense as a grat to me like Visting Hours or How Would You Feel. But I guess it's just something he was keen for more people to hear.

Just put Ed in the same category as Coldplay, Elton John etc and it’ll be easier than trying to explain away his streaming struggles. He could sellout Wembley tomorrow but getting big streaming numbers is not happening no matter what he releases or when

It doesn't feel like a proper second single , he hasn't thrown all the bells and whistles at it like he normally does, yes it's been playlisted but that's about it

To me it feels like how would you feel was to divide and visiting hours to equals

It's a good song but it doesn't exactly scream hit

Edited May 5May 5 by 777666jason

7 minutes ago, Liam S said:

Just put Ed in the same category as Coldplay, Elton John etc and it’ll be easier than trying to explain away his streaming struggles. He could sellout Wembley tomorrow but getting big streaming numbers is not happening no matter what he releases or when

Ed's new stuff is streaming way better than Elton's which never would've been close to the Spotify charts, and is doing a fair bit better than Coldplay's stuff did!

At the rate he's going he's gonna release half the album as pre-album singles by the time it comes out

everybody's gonna scream "Stop" or "Eject" rather than "Play" hahaha :D

lol people comparing Ed to Elton. If Elton released a brand new solo single this Friday, it would be track #27 on NMF,

would not be added to any playlist whatsoever and wouldn't make the Spotify top 200 for all the money in the world.

Why are you acting like this isn't his normal roll out when he releases an album 🤣

Not the Elton comparison

Old Phone definitely isn't performing particularly well so far, not to say it can't recover. I agree it's much too soon for single 2, especially when there's still a long way until the album release! Guessing the plan is to get at least 3 streaming hits established to buoy the album's streaming figures beyond the curiosity streams on week 1 (though Old Phone doesn't look like it'll be much use on that front so far).

Can we just hold on for a minute? Lets just acknowledge Ed Sheeran is not the streaming/selling juggernaut he was 7/8 years ago- that was to be expected. Azizam has been an underperformance- but still successful and will probably go on to be a long running hit. I should imagine his album will still sell well - not 2014/2017 well but for 2025, it will be successful. He will still manage to sell out stadiums (and thats where the money is made).