I get that it seems easy to make fun of Katy Perry and criticize her because she’s been flopping in charts and she’s a woman (I don’t even know which one is the biggest sin of the two!), but I’m really struggling to understand what the point of this dramatic thread is.

2 hours ago, pavi said:

I get that it seems easy to make fun of Katy Perry and criticize her because she’s been flopping in charts and she’s a woman (I don’t even know which one is the biggest sin of the two!), but I’m really struggling to understand what the point of this dramatic thread is.

What does Katy being a woman have to do with any of this?

On 04/05/2025 at 12:24, Mellope said:

What does Katy being a woman have to do with any of this?

She wouldn't be getting this much hate if she were a man. Or at least, her music career wouldn't have suffered as much. Look at someone like Morgan Wallen in contrast.

56 minutes ago, Scene said:

She wouldn't be getting this much hate if she were a man. Or at least, her music career wouldn't have suffered as much. Look at someone like Morgan Wallen in contrast.

1. I was just saying to the other person that I'm not hating on her for being female.

2. Don't even compare Katy and Morgan, Katy's controversy is so bad that I can't even speak about it all in forums.

3. Katy has showcased many real reasons to dislike her.. the moment anybody disliked a female singer in 2025 people will play the "misygony" card, people even did it for Ice Spice!

On 03/05/2025 at 11:46, Mellope said:

I used to like Katy Perry more.

I think that most of this criticism is coming from a humorous point of view, the death threats and extra stuff is obviously terrible, nobody deserves that.

I also really don't think she's putting real effort into this anymore, the tour and album hate is deserved, along with other questionable things I've heard about her such as with the nuns and Justin Beiber.

It comes off as really low effort. Revealing the tour dates in space, instesd of holding names of fans or somethong, was lol. The tour itself, with the naff Star Wars section, just looks terrible. She needed ro lower rhe prices, strip it all back and go back to basics, play some songs which should have been singles.

This all boils down to BAD singles choiced since PRISM!!! It collapsed her career, she stopped being adventurous, snd now she doesn't know what to do to fix it. Her career as a big artist is over, and that is her OWN fault, due to singled AND the fight with Taylor Swift, who some say is bigger than the Beatles. I haven't seen career self sabotage like this since the Spice Girls. I dunno what she could do to fix it.

On 06/05/2025 at 00:14, Mellope said:

Don't even compare Katy and Morgan, Katy's controversy is so bad that I can't even speak about it all in forums.

Please tell me this isn't saying Katy's controversy is somehow worse than Morgan Wallen's actions

I have seen a lot of weird takes about Katy but saying her controversy is worse than Morgan getting blacklisted for 2 years for saying the N-word with a hard R in a drunken stupor really takes the cake here

On 10/05/2025 at 16:47, JosephBoone said:

Please tell me this isn't saying Katy's controversy is somehow worse than Morgan Wallen's actions

Morgan Wallen's actions weren't ok but atleast he apologised and didn't knowingly say it (because he was drunk.)

Katy has done many things she hasn't apologised for such as the comments she made to a mum while she was on a talent show, the way she touched Justin Beiber, the way she wrongly made someone file for bankruptcy and more.

On 10/05/2025 at 18:19, Cody Piastri said:

I have seen a lot of weird takes about Katy but saying her controversy is worse than Morgan getting blacklisted for 2 years for saying the N-word with a hard R in a drunken stupor really takes the cake here

Read the message above mine (this one)

On 10/05/2025 at 16:47, JosephBoone said:

Please tell me this isn't saying Katy's controversy is somehow worse than Morgan Wallen's actions

There is literally controversys of Katy Perry saying the N word, she matches Morgan's controversy.

On 11/05/2025 at 19:49, Mellope said:

Morgan Wallen's actions weren't ok but atleast he apologised and didn't knowingly say it (because he was drunk.)

Katy has done many things she hasn't apologised for such as the comments she made to a mum while she was on a talent show, the way she touched Justin Beiber, the way she wrongly made someone file for bankruptcy and more.

Weak excuse imo. Chris Brown is another man who’s managed to salvage a career despite being a walking skidmark.

5 hours ago, Scene said:

Weak excuse imo. Chris Brown is another man who’s managed to salvage a career despite being a walking skidmark.

What do you mean by "weak excuse"

12 hours ago, Mellope said:

What do you mean by "weak excuse"

I don’t see how being drunk excuses his behaviour.

13 hours ago, Scene said:

I don’t see how being drunk excuses his behaviour.

I never said it excuses his behaviour, I just said it makes the situation look slightly better for him.

I think the biggest difference between what everyone is trying ti compare here

Katy is not likeable or a singer or performer

Chris Brown/ Morgan at least on some level can either sjng or dance

On 21/05/2025 at 06:34, Rough_edges said:

I think the biggest difference between what everyone is trying ti compare here

Katy is not likeable or a singer or performer

Chris Brown/ Morgan at least on some level can either sjng or dance

Well, she's not likeable NOW, but she was before Witness. Chris Brown and Morgan Wallace aren't likeable, and Katy WAS a good performer... before she lsot her confidence. Her vocals are fine. They're better than a lot of other stars.

Like I said before, I've not seen any footage from this current tour because I'm attending it later in the year and want to avoid spoilers. However, the previous two tours are my favourite tours ever, because of how good a performer Katy is! She threw in the kitchen sink both times. Perhaps that magic spark is missing this time but she absolutely is a strong performer if we look back at her whole career. She was also vocally strong live!

Katy being female is kinda a relevant point in a way when it comes to her treatment and career because male artists do get away with worse things and have it not impact them at all.

I mean Chris Browns probably gonna still score hits and huge tours once his latest legal drama is solved.

Having said that though there is something about Katy’s actual material itself just being completely awful these days. There’s no dressing up just how much her actual material itself has drastically deteriorated (and to me no matter how extravagant her sets and staging can be she’s pretty much never delivered on the live vocals).

I’m sure Katy will always see success from a touring perspective though and I think if she goes in a different direction next era possibly more acoustic or just stripped back in general maybe critics could be kinder.

This was a refreshing thread!

Katy's made herself a laughing stock. End of. I for one will be laughing until she switches it up. Trying to turn this into a 'victim' situation is ridiculously hyperbolic in my opinion. She's a very rich woman who literally just flew to space. Let's be real here.

8 hours ago, JosephBoone said:

but she absolutely is a strong performer if we look back at her whole career. She was also vocally strong live!

This is very funny to read, even back in the day on x factor or the brits etc her performances and vocals were dreadful. It was fine in 2010 as we were marketed to a pop star and no other options, they were given the songs and the limelight

It's different now, those who lack talent can't continue as they did