6 hours ago, steveh31 said:

You must really despise Paul Young then every Top 10 hit a cover, he must really really get the steam flowing out of your small brain.

That's why he's a one-hit wonder outside the UK, y'all give too much attention to small talents.

23 hours ago, Ne Plus Ultra said:

New overall total for Last Christmas thanks to the SCR figures put it at 6,605,655 units.

Now 11x Platinum in terms of overall sales

6 minutes ago, steveh31 said:

Bulls**t he is quoted as saying he rang Bernie Taupin and asked him to re-write Candle In The Wind

it’s well documented that Bernie wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music to his hits

the music for CITW had already been composed at the time of Diana’s death…

Just now, Adelita said:

That's why he's a one-hit wonder outside the UK, y'all give too much attention to small talents.

He had 2 Top 10 hits in America and Love For The Common People and Come Back And Stay reached No.1 in numerous European Countries hardly a UK one hit wonder is he?

6 hours ago, 777666jason said:

So we are measuring success by how we look , jeez everybody whack out the meat dresses then 🤣

Kylie wouldn't hold a candle if she were ugly, she's Sabrina from the 80s, except Sabrina actually held a pen to write her hits.

1 minute ago, Adelita said:

Kylie wouldn't hold a candle if she were ugly, she's Sabrina from the 80s, except Sabrina actually held a pen to write her hits.

Your flip flopping now can you even remember what you said 5 minutes ago 🤣

1 minute ago, dancember said:

it’s well documented that Bernie wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music to his hits

the music for CITW had already been composed at the time of Diana’s death…

Exactly so Elton was the music writer and needed Bernie to write the lyrics like most pop stars they don't write it all themselves.

Edited Saturday at 19:334 days by steveh31

6 hours ago, -Jay- said:

If a music artist is a jack of all trades, well, good for them - but that's simply one way of doing things. It's not the only way.

Kylie knows her own strengths. She's proved over her career that she has an ear for songs that fit her well, and that in and of itself is a talent. She has openly discussed her modus operandi of receiving demos, and if she comes across what she considers to be a great song, then she wants it! Several artists passed on Can't Get You Out of My Head but Kylie and her team heard something in it. Padam Padam was passed around too. If you cared to look through her recent albums you will see she does collaborate with writers. She's also spoken about learning how to self-produce her own vocals in recent years.

"She was just a pretty face" is actually misogynistic and highlights how restricted your point of view is. If you seriously believe that Kylie has had an almost 40 year career in music by being "a puppet" every step of the way, then I have to conclude that you're being a troll who enjoys putting down artists, which is really lame.

The truth is hard to face, I know, it's easier to blame misogyny than to admit that certain artists shouldn't even be called artists, but rather celebrities who were lucky enough to find an audience for their songs, even if they didn't write them.

2 minutes ago, Adelita said:

The truth is hard to face, I know, it's easier to blame misogyny than to admit that certain artists shouldn't even be called artists, but rather celebrities who were lucky enough to find an audience for their songs, even if they didn't write them.

🥱🥱 Godddddd artists and celebrities who find an audience isn't that almost every pop act with success?

6 hours ago, stebags said:

Eee been a while since I’ve seen such trolling!

She co-wrote Wow too from this 7 year old list. She had big sales in her early career while starting off and gradually, in her own words, became ‘part of her own product’.

Ask any kylie fan what their top 20 best songs are & there would be many more co-writes in there. Record companies generally decided 1st singles from an album & 1st singles usually got the biggest push.

I really don’t know why I’m bothering to write this. Sabrina didn’t write much of her debut, will she be around having number ones in 37 years? Time will tell

You've been going around in circles and getting nowhere. The fact is: out of Kylie's 20 biggest hits in the UK, she only wrote 1 of them. Even Padam Padam, which would be included in that list if updated, was not written by her.

1 minute ago, Adelita said:

You've been going around in circles and getting nowhere. The fact is: out of Kylie's 20 biggest hits in the UK, she only wrote 1 of them. Even Padam Padam, which would be included in that list if updated, was not written by her.

10 minutes ago, Adelita said:

The truth is hard to face, I know, it's easier to blame misogyny than to admit that certain artists shouldn't even be called artists, but rather celebrities who were lucky enough to find an audience for their songs, even if they didn't write them.

Don't twist my words. I'm not blaming misogny, I'm outright calling you a misogynist for how you reduced Kylie's success to "she was just a pretty face".

Clearly you're here to troll and to bait people, and it's so embarrassing. Obviously you've disregarded the warning you received, seeing as you're carrying on. Shall we try a suspension instead?

6 hours ago, 777666jason said:

Well it's confirmed from this thread. what i already knew , Taylor swift is officially the greatest artist of all time

. She's talented

. She's got the locks

. She absolutely writes her own music

. She not a puppet, she a mastermind 🤭

This girl is another industry plant. She's bad at almost everything: bad singer, terrible stage presence, dances like a 15-year-old girl at her birthday party, and although she writes her own songs, her lyrics are overrated as hell and 90% of them are about some famous ex of hers (the prototype for Sabrina, Olivia Rodrigo, Tate McRae and so on...) Swifties act like she's Carole King LMFAO.

Just now, Adelita said:

This girl is another industry plant. She's bad at almost everything: bad singer, terrible stage presence, dances like a 15-year-old girl at her birthday party, and although she writes her own songs, her lyrics are overrated as hell and 90% of them are about some famous ex of hers (the prototype for Sabrina, Olivia Rodrigo, Tate McRae and so on...) Swifties act like she's Carole King LMFAO.

Apart from Lady Gaga, who do you like?

I’m actually just wondering if you are doing this purely to get a high on the reactions. Like you have an addiction to social media and need that hit of attention?

Edited Saturday at 20:034 days by Knightr634

2 hours ago, Mr. C. Joel said:

You're trying to state your opinion as fact??? Kylie is FAR from Mediocre. I think the proof of that is Padam Padam which was an organic hit (How many artists can do that 3 decades on?)

Also, your supposed industry plants don't make any sense? Why Is Katy Perry / Sabrina / Tate etc an Industry Plant but Gaga isn't (Love Gaga obviously) but you're clearly naming artists YOU think aren't talented.

Using Padam Padam, which she didn't even write, as an example? Do you want to confront me or help me?

Because clearly Katy, Sabrina, and Tate combined don't possess half the talent of Gaga? I believe that's why, and I thought it was already a general consensus at this point. Don't try to turn the tables by shading Gaga because you know you'll lose.

3 minutes ago, Adelita said:

you know you'll lose

... your ability to post here? Yes 💗

22 minutes ago, Adelita said:

This girl is another industry plant. She's bad at almost everything: bad singer, terrible stage presence, dances like a 15-year-old girl at her birthday party, and although she writes her own songs, her lyrics are overrated as hell and 90% of them are about some famous ex of hers (the prototype for Sabrina, Olivia Rodrigo, Tate McRae and so on...) Swifties act like she's Carole King LMFAO.

Here take it is basically what your saying you want at this point 🤣🤣

1 hour ago, steveh31 said:

WTF John Denver, a man who was such an industry plant he only ever managed one UK hit, wow what a plant he was for the UK music industry and his only hit here was one he wrote himself.

When I talk about the industry plant, I'm not specifically to the UK. Kylie is a rare exception of an industry plant that only lasted in the UK because the UK has a weird habit of giving charity to retiring acts. She hasn't had a hit in the US since 2001 and hasn't had a hit in her own homeland since 2007. As has already been said, this fake #1 doesn't change the overall picture.

7 hours ago, Adelita said:

Really hard to understand the success of a puppet whose biggest hits came from other people's minds. How you look is everything, I guess.

This is why acts like thr Spice Girls, and Solo Spice, are so rare and USUALLY well received. A lot of pop stars can't write/ don't write their own sangs. It's rare to do so! It's why record companies hire trams of up to 20!!! Writers per hit sang. Drake has whole teams of writers camp out in studios to make his albums!!! Rihanna held sang parties, with her eriters downstairs makin the sangs!!

But the question then is, who does the song below to. Is it Britney Spears' Toxic, or Cathy Dennis', for example? Depends on your point of view, but it doesn't diminish the sang itself. It's not like Kylie just does cover, cover, cover, as that is a karaoke act. She has to make a brand new sang and make it ha own.

6 minutes ago, Adelita said:

When I talk about the industry plant, I'm not specifically to the UK. Kylie is a rare exception of an industry plant that only lasted in the UK because the UK has a weird habit of giving charity to retiring acts. She hasn't had a hit in the US since 2001 and hasn't had a hit in her own homeland since 2007. As has already been said, this fake #1 doesn't change the overall picture.

6 US Dance Chart No1's in row in 2010s in America, All The Lovers reached No13 in Australia and top 10 all over Europe, but now enough is enough time for this thread to go the way of Lady Gaga's chart positions, no longer of interest to the public and closed.