Posted Friday at 22:294 days Let's imagine you are in the year 2001, you are young and savvy about the UK's music industry, you work for Virgin/EMI and a rabbid Victoria Beckham stan at that too.Somehow you are landed the job of turning her chances of success around and save the album - and VB's career!! - after the two flops of Not Such an Innocent Girl and A Mind of It's Own as well as the VB album (for a pop star of her caliber).No limit to your budgets, this is make or break and the record label is re-investing ANOTHER £5MILLION in order to make this a success. Victoria is eager and has cleared all her schedule for this, even going so far as sending Brooklyn to his grandmother 'for the next year or so' so she can focus. Even David is supporting this by NOT shagging her so she can focus. What songs would you pick as next singles? And what would you do (type of video, when would you release, summer/spring)?Note: We know that I Wish (featuring Robbie Craig) was slatted as the next single, as well as both Like That and I.O.U. being mixed by Spike Stent (a huge hint at them being planned as singles). She also clearly loved Midnight Fantasy going so far as to perform it at G-A-Y. Sadly none of this came to be.What about you though? What would you pick? Edited Friday at 22:324 days by Mr.X
Friday at 23:014 days I wouldn't, I'd tell her to get that second vastly superior album recorded and out, meanwhile I'd shag her husband behind the scenes since he'd be desperate aaaaaand... I wouldn't sell it to The News of the World! I'm good like that. 🤭
Friday at 23:034 days Author Just now, Spiceboy said:I wouldn't, I'd tell her to get that second vastly superior album recorded and out, meanwhile I'd shag her husband behind the scenes since he'd be desperate aaaaaand... I wouldn't sell it to The News of the World! I'm good like that. 🤭Well, you couldn't shag her husband because in this plan he would not be desperate enough to shag a twink! He's into bears actually (like me!) 😉Now stop thinking about sex for once and CONCENTRATE. What singles would you choose?SAVE THE HYPOTHETICAL CAREER VICKY COULD HAVE HADD!!!!
Friday at 23:074 days 3 minutes ago, Mr.X said:Well, you couldn't shag her husband because in this plan he would not be desperate enough to shag a twink! He's into bears actually (like me!) 😉Now stop thinking about sex for once and CONCENTRATE. What singles would you choose?SAVE THE HYPOTHETICAL CAREER VICKY COULD HAVE HADD!!!!I'm no twink... (anymore). I'm an otter. 😂
Friday at 23:104 days Author 2 minutes ago, Spiceboy said:I'm no twink... (anymore). I'm an otter. 😂You wish. Once a twink, always a twink! Accept it
Saturday at 05:034 days Midnight Fantasy or I Wish would have the best chance. However, if the single still wouldn't turn the album around, I would just wrap things up and get VIctoria to start working on the second album.
Saturday at 10:554 days 11 hours ago, Mr.X said:You wish. Once a twink, always a twink! Accept itI'll gladly accept it... runs upstairs to shave all body hair off! 😂
Sunday at 20:492 days Give Like That to Emma , i so hear her owning this song.Emma shined on FOREVER and then released a very boring album after hyping us all saying it was Janet inspired… Edited Sunday at 20:492 days by vibe
Sunday at 21:492 days Author 53 minutes ago, vibe said:Do we believe the 5 Million rumour , no record company would surely!!Oofff nowadays, no. But back then? For sure... Record labels would invest quite a lot if they expected the artists to be big. NSAIG video was super expensive, let alone the extensive massive campaign around it. She was coming off the biggest band the UK had seen since the Beatles and she was Miss Beckham too, most famous woman in the UK!Also, remember their solo contracts were signed before Forever era was a flop, while they were still the biggest girlband in the world. So they probably were expecting her to sell big when they signed her... She worked with a lot of producers and writers who were also very expensive. The 5million is also including Victoria's own advance payments which they would hope to recover from the sales. Thats the total budget of the project. They would need to make £5million in sales/revenue to them start making a profit, from which VB and her team and lable would all profit from. I remember at the time VB said she made £400,000 in advance payments to make Forever. That was before any other expenditure like producers, writers, studio time, promotion, etc was considered. Puts things into perspective hey? So yeah...
Sunday at 21:512 days Author 1 hour ago, vibe said:Give Like That to Emma , i so hear her owning this song.Emma shined on FOREVER and then released a very boring album after hyping us all saying it was Janet inspired…Oh I could hear Emma on Like That, it would fit well on her r'nb leaning sounds of AGLM. I think the Janet inspired comment came off the back that Emma also worked with Darkchil and Jam&Lewis for her solo album, before they moved direction to be more pop-guitar type of album... I would LOVE to hear what she made with them!
Monday at 00:132 days Author So far seems like Midnight Fantasy and Like That lead the charge, followed by I Wish. Honestly I would have loved that singles run! Let her do A Mind of Its Own or IOU after those 3 absolute BOPS. I think it would have been a much - MUCH - better campaign. I think overall Victoria has impecable taste and talent but I don't understand those f***ing singles choices. It was the end of her career as soon as she picked those two lolShe should have led with Like That to showcase that r'n'b vibe she was trying to do and it was the best song to lead with, followed by Midnight Fantasy to throw in a bigger shade of pop and then I Wish to follow on with the pop-r'n'b sound.
Yesterday at 04:391 day Honestly, I find VB a companion to Forever. They go together really well, with Victoria taking some solo leads there and go on her own with VB.
Yesterday at 07:391 day Like ThatMidnight FantasyI Wish (without Robbie nobody Craig) Were definitely the OBVIOUS singles. Why she didn't go with these I'll never know.
14 hours ago14 hr Author 16 hours ago, Rebel said:Honestly, I find VB a companion to Forever. They go together really well, with Victoria taking some solo leads there and go on her own with VB.That's an interesting take, actually, and I think it kind of makes sense. VB was totally into the r'n'b sounds and I bet she was one of the driving forces in going more into that lane for Forever.
14 hours ago14 hr Author 13 hours ago, Spiceboy said:Like ThatMidnight FantasyI Wish (without Robbie nobody Craig)Were definitely the OBVIOUS singles. Why she didn't go with these I'll never know.My understandng is that she/her lable wanted to go with the narrative of her being missunderstood and this album was to prove her right, tapping into Brand Beckham and her the 'least talented' Spice. NSAIG - while terrible as a first single, it was an attempt at creating a narrative around her image and branding, like she is not the person she is portraied to be. It didn't work at all lol It works as an album opener, but not as a first single. AMOIO - the 'big pop chorus' was promoted as her proving she could 'really sing' but the song isn't strong enough for that, specifically since half of it are spoken-verses lolI.O.U. - was used in the promotion and was mixed by Spike Stent which indicating it was to be a single. This was a direct 'lets tap into Brand Beckham' type of move because there is no way the song was strong enough to be a single, let alone with her strained vocals on it...It was stupid. She had the hits on the album that could prove she was a great popstar but didn't used them at all.
