The Muslims & the Christians have been at each others throats since Jerusalem fell to the Sassanids (Muslims) in 614 AD & they ransacked (raped, murdered & destroyed) the "Holy Land" of religious significance, ever since then nearly 1500 years ago & will doubtless continue until the destruction of the human race.

 

The identity of countries & leaders may change but the struggle will remain the same.

 

Over the last 25 years we have seen the following terrorist attacks by Muslim groups (to list a few):

 

April 30, 1980: Iranian Embassy siege: Iraqi agents take over the Iranian Embassy in London, gaining hostages. After a number of days, one hostage was killed by the Iraqis, and the Special Air Service assaulted the building to rescue the remaining hostages. One hostage died during the assault.

 

July 27, 1980: A member of the Abu Nidal Organization carried out a grenade attack on a group of Jews waiting for a bus in Antwerp, Belgium, killing a child and wounding twenty others. Said Al Nasr will be convicted for this act.

 

August 29, 1980: Machine gun and grenade attack on the Stadttempel synagogue in Vienna, killing two people and wounding 23. Marwan Hasan and Hesham Mohammed Rajeh were convicted.

 

October 6, 1981: Assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat by Islamic Jihad.

 

October 20, 1981: Attack on a synagogue in Antwerp, Belgium, killing three and wounding sixty.

 

August 9, 1982: Rue des Rosiers, Paris gunning and bombing of Goldenberg restaurant : six killed and 22 wounded - Fatah - the Revolutionary Council.

 

September 18, 1982: Four people are wounded when a synagogue in Brussels is attacked in a "shoot and run" incident. Guards were taken by surprise and the gunman, believed to be from the Abu Nidal Organization, escaped.

 

October 9, 1982: Attack with grenades and machine guns on the central synagogue in Rome, Italy. A child dies, ten people are injured.

 

April 18, 1983: U.S. Embassy Bombing in Beirut, Lebanon kills 63.

 

October 23, 1983: Marine Barracks Bombing in Beirut kills 241 U.S. Marines. 58 French troops from the multinational force are also killed in a separate attack.

 

June 14, 1985: TWA Flight 847 skyjacking, Hezbollah. Terrorists take passengers of an Athens-Rome flight hostage, murdering US Navy Seaman, Robert Stethem.

 

November 23, 1985: EgyptAir Flight 648 hijacked by Abu Nidal group, flown to Malta, where Egyptian commandos storm plane; 60 are killed by gunfire and explosions.

 

December 21, 1988: Pan Am Flight 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. At the time, it was the worst act of terrorism perpetrated against the United States, and involved the greatest number of peacetime fatalities (270) in the United Kingdom. Just over 12 years after the event, at the conclusion of the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing trial, a Libyan agent, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, was convicted on 270 counts of murder and was sentenced to life imprisonment. Libya subsequently agreed to pay relatives of the Lockerbie bombing victims $2.7 billion ($10 million each) in compensation.

 

March 17, 1992: Israeli Embassy bombing by "Islamic Jihad" in Buenos Aires, Argentina; 29 killed, 242 injured.

 

February 26, 1993: World Trade Center bombing kills six and injures over 1000 people, by coalition of five groups: Jamaat Al-Fuqra'/Gamaat Islamiya/Hamas/Islamic Jihad/National Islamic Front.

 

July 18, 1994: Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina, kills 86 and wounds 300. Generally attributed to Hezbollah acting on behalf of Iran.

 

July 19, 1994: Alas Chiricanas Flight 00901 (Panama) is bombed, killing 21. Generally attributed to Hezbollah.

 

July 26, 1994: Israeli Embassy Attack in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed, wounding 20. Attributed by Britain, Argentina, and Israel to Hezbollah.

 

June 25, 1996: Khobar Towers bombing -- In all, 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi were killed and 372 wounded, by Hizballah Al-Hijaz (Saudi Hizballah) with Iranian support.

 

February 24, 1997: Ali Abu Kamal opens fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, United States, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claims this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine". His widow claimed he became suicidal after losing $300,000 in a business venture. In a 2007 interview with the New York Daily News his daughter said her mothers story was a cover crafted by the Palestinian Authority and that her father wanted to punish the United States for its support of Israel.

 

November 17, 1997: Luxor Massacre – Islamist gunmen attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 62 and injuring 24 people, most of them European and Japanese holidaymakers.

 

February 14: 1998 Coimbatore bombings - Bombings by suspected Islamic Jihadi groups on an election rally in Indian city of Coimbatore kill about 60 people.

 

August 7, 1998: U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, killing 225 people and injuring more than 4,000, by al-Qaeda.

 

October 12, 2000: USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors and wounds 40 off the port coast of Aden, Yemen, by al-Qaeda, the Buffalo Six Lackawanna Cell.

 

August 9, 2001: A suicide bomber in Jerusalem kills seven and wounds 130 in the Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing; Hamas and Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

 

September 11, 2001: Attacks kill 2,997 in a series of hijacked airliner crashes into two U.S. landmarks: the World Trade Center in New York City, New York, and The Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. A fourth plane, originally intended to hit the United States Capital Building, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, after an apparent revolt against the hijackers by the plane's passengers; by Al-Qaeda.

 

April 11, 2002: A natural gas truck fitted with explosives is driven into a synagogue in Tunisia by an al-Qaeda member, killing 21 and wounding more than 30 in the Ghriba Synagogue Attack.

 

June 14, 2002: Car bomb at US Consulate in Karachi kills twelve.

 

July 4, 2002: An Egyptian gunman opens fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing two Israelis before being killed himself.

 

May 12, 2003: Bombings of United States expatriate housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160 in the Riyadh Compound Bombings. Al-Qaeda blamed.

 

May 16, 2003: Casablanca Attacks by twelve bombers on five "Western and Jewish" targets in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead and over 100 injured. Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group.

 

November 15 and November 20, 2003: Truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 57 and wounding 700 in the 2003 Istanbul Bombings.

 

March 11, 2004: Coordinated bombing of commuter trains in Madrid, Spain, kills 191 people and injures more than 1,500. Suspected Al-Qaeda authorship.

 

July 7, 2005: London bombings – Bombs explode on one double-decker bus and three London Underground trains, killing 56 people and injuring over 700, occurring on the first day of the 31st G8 Conference. The attacks are the first suicide bombings in Western Europe.

 

July 21, 2005: Attempted London bombings - Small explosions in three London Underground stations and one double-decker bus. This was pronounced as a "major incident" rather than an attack, and only minor injuries were reported. These four bombs were designed to cause as much damage as the 7 July 2005 London bombings, but the explosives had deteriorated and failed to detonate.

 

July 31, 2006: Two suitcase bombs are discovered in trains near the German towns of Dortmund and Koblenz, undetonated due to an assembly error. Video footage from Cologne train station, where the bombs were put on the trains, led to the arrest of two Lebanese students in Germany, Youssef al-Hajdib and Jihad Hamad, and subsequently of three suspected co-conspirators in Lebanon. On 1 September 2006, Jörg Ziercke, head of the Bundeskriminalamt (Federal Police), reports that the suspects saw the Muhammad cartoons as an "assault by the West on Islam" and the "initial spark" for the attack, originally planned to coincide with the 2006 Football World Cup in Germany.

 

August 10, 2006: A major anti-terrorist operation disrupts an alleged bomb plot targeting multiple airplanes bound for the United States flying through Heathrow Airport, near London, UK.

 

April 11, 2007: Two suicide car bombs kill 33 people and injure 222 in Algiers, Algeria. Al-Queda takes responsibility.

 

April 18, 2007: In Malatya, Turkey, hometown of Mehmet Ali Agca, three Christian men, one of them 45-year-old German father of three children Tilman Geske, were brutally murdered by at least four young men who already have confessed the slayings. The assassins tortured their victims for hours before cutting their throats. An autopsy of the German victim found 156 stab wounds. Hurriyet newspaper quoted a suspect: "Let this be a lesson to enemies of our religion".

 

April 25, 2007: The American International School in the Gaza Strip is stormed by a dozen gunman claiming to be a members of al-Qaida of Palestine who stole eight computers, planted explosives in adjoining buildings, doused the school with gasoline and set it ablaze.

 

April 28, 2007: Saudi Arabia announced it has arrested one hundred and seventy two people in an Al Queda plot to attack oil facilities, military bases and public figures using civilian aircraft as suicide missiles.

 

June 3, 2007: John F. Kennedy International Airport terror plot. Thwarted homegrown Islamist terrorism plot to destroy the fuel supply system for the airport located in New York City and cause a large amount of causalities by blowing up the connecting pipeline system that runs through densely populated neighborhoods.

As for pushing our noses into other people's business, then I'm glad you were not Prime Minister at the time of the 2nd World War, when we declared war on a foreign country (Germany) who was not (at the time) intending to harm us when Germany invaded Poland.

 

Otherwise by now we would be speaking German, and Jews would have been eradicated from Europe!

 

 

a very interesting list TIP, and so many before we were involved in iraq, makes the notion that the current terrorist threat is due to us being there.

 

i agree with everything youve put m8, but DONT YOU DARE LEAVE!

thisispop, along with Grimly and Mushy are the some of the only members worth reading on here!

thisispop, along with Grimly and Mushy are the some of the only members worth reading on here!

 

Your perogative Russ ^_^

 

But without being arrogant this place would be a lot duller without my posts as you guys are all of the same political persuasion so all posts in here would be nodding in agreement with each other

Your perogative Russ ^_^

 

But without being arrogant this place would be a lot duller without my posts as you guys are all of the same political persuasion so all posts in here would be nodding in agreement with each other

 

you have a point there, and tbh you argue your corner well (thatcher anyway), but you're still wrong! lol.

Although I don't often post in here (being just 18 I don't really have enough knowledge to make particularly decent points as I've known nothing different to Blair) I do enjoy reading it. And you all seem to disagree with each other fairly often, despite being of the same 'political persuasion'...

Your perogative Russ ^_^

 

But without being arrogant this place would be a lot duller without my posts as you guys are all of the same political persuasion so all posts in here would be nodding in agreement with each other

 

To be honest, sometimes it is very good to agree to disagree.

 

On a personal note this afternoon was not the best time for another terrorist(??) attack, as I'm a little bit emotionally fragile at the moment, due to the death of an auntie, & an old friend / school class mate of mine within the last week.

god forbid some us question what goes on around us, rather than taking what we see in the media at face value.

 

Maybe I'll take my thoughts somewhere else where discussion is allowed :rolleyes:

Although I don't often post in here (being just 18 I don't really have enough knowledge to make particularly decent points as I've known nothing different to Blair) I do enjoy reading it. And you all seem to disagree with each other fairly often, despite being of the same 'political persuasion'...

 

dont be intimidated if you feel that you havnt enough experience to warrent posting here, i think i can speak for the main posters in saying that we respect anybodies view on anything as long as its posted with some thought behind it. when us 'older' posters dont agree, argue even, we dont take it personally. ill disagree with scott or russ one one thing but thats it, next subject is different and might agree.

 

i think the problem with many younger posters here is that they do take their point of view seriously and are personally offended if someone doesnt agree, particualy older posters who use more 'adult' ways of arguing/discussing... but theres no 'heat' behind it (unless its an obvious pillock too immature to post here). :)

Interesting list Rich but equally for every muslim mass murder/act of terrorism that has been committed over the years you could find at least one by christians/catholics

 

Check out the number of attacks by the IRA, ETA, Red Brigade, Bader Meinhoff, Red Army, add to that random shootings in America, add to that Timothy McVeigh, add to that the USA shooting down the Iranian 747 in a military exercise, Shock And Awe, torture and murder in Camp X Ray and Abu Ghirab, Israeli settlers mass murdering Palestinians and so on and so on and so on, you have produced a list of murders and terrorist attacks committed by muslims but you can multiply that list several times to find atrocities committed by christians and catholics

 

 

Why do you always defend the muslim terrorist attacks,as if its their right to attack innocent civilians. If you are that concerned why not condemn their attacks on your fellow countrymen. If we are the bad guys here then so are you. I never supported the war on Iraq, most of Scotland was against it if you check back. But it seems these current home bred terrorists dont give a s$it for you, me or the next person. <_<

My friend was in a car on the same road, then the helicoptors and police come and everything and she didn't know what was going on.

Edited June 30, 200718 yr by Johnny

The UK is at the "critical" level now, meaning that another terrorist attack is "imminent".

Why do you always defend the muslim terrorist attacks,as if its their right to attack innocent civilians. If you are that concerned why not condemn their attacks on your fellow countrymen. If we are the bad guys here then so are you. I never supported the war on Iraq, most of Scotland was against it if you check back. But it seems these current home bred terrorists dont give a s$it for you, me or the next person. <_<

 

Wrong Brian, you are completely wrong, what I am against is the demonisation of ANY religion based on a few fanatics be it muslims, jews, catholics, christians, hindus or whatever, I despise terrorists but also I despise Bush and Blair who have caused this situation

Liverpool Airport has been closed :o

since mentioning those 3 as the most readable and interesting members, I've realised that all the people who have posted after fall into that category, too, especially RabbitFurCoat. Even Vic chats sense.... apart from his rightwing politics ;)

Liverpool Airport has been closed :o

 

 

BBC announced earlier that Blackpool Airport had been closed - but can't find anything about it :unsure:

 

 

Blackpool Airport & Liverpool airport websites are still giving estimated arrival and departure times for this evening so am guessing they are not closed :unsure:

Edited June 30, 200718 yr by ICR

Seems the terrorists have chosen to mark Gordon Browns first week as PM. Two evets so far, one foiled, one successful but seemingly random (well, the Scottish connection).

 

I am worried at what may happen next...

Loads of airports have been closed now haven't they? Blackpool, Gatwick, Liverpool, Newcastle, Edinburgh and of course Glasgow I think.

What about Heathrow? That would be the #1 target if anyone was looking at disrupting airports.

What about Heathrow? That would be the #1 target if anyone was looking at disrupting airports.

 

 

there was a car on fire at Heathrow earlier :unsure:

 

Loads of airports have been closed now haven't they? Blackpool, Gatwick, Liverpool, Newcastle, Edinburgh and of course Glasgow I think.

 

well Liverpool Airport arrival board was updated 5 mins ago?? so assume flights still landing there

there was a car on fire at Heathrow earlier :unsure:

That was Glasgow :lol: