Some people are just born with addictive personalities though Rob, if they were not addicted to cannabis they would be addicted to gambling or slot machines or alcohol or whatever, I don't think cannabis itself is to blame it is just an outlet for those person's addiction, if cannabis didn't exist they would be addicted to something else as that is an inbuilt trait in their personality

 

they dont have to be addicts to get the negative effects of smoking canabis, you dont have too smoke much for that..

No.

 

But Brown's Govt are hypocrites as well as very very stupid (B-LIAR would never have done it) for getting all high & mighty about the killing of a Russian dissident within the UK & escalating a diplomatic crisis, when we are quite happy to invade other countries.

 

All Russia has to do is turn off the gas & electricity supplies....

Yes they ARE hypocrites. No they shouldn't be attacked for it.

 

Much as I love to have a dig at the government, in this case I can't. They've admitted their mistakes, and they're trying to prevent others making the same mistakes, fair play to them. It's not as if any of them are still using, or intending to use.

i suggest you watch jeremy kyle, he often has people on there who has been harmed by excessive canabis use, people who ARE hooked on it, seeing these real people in trouble has actually changed my opinion on canabis.

 

Oh come on mate, these unemployable chav morons who populate sh"t like the Jeremy fukkin' Kyle show sit around their council estates 24/7 smoking Moroccan Skunk ALL FUKKIN' DAY practically.... Well, DUUUUH, obviously it's gonna cause a problem if you do summat stupid like that.... Every bit as much so if you sat around drinking all day.... I have no sympathy for these idiots, none at all... As someone once said "All things in moderation"..... I smoked Cannabis only on the weekends with mates, it was a social thing for us, to pass around a joint and share it..... I have never had problems with drugs, any drugs (including ciggies and booze....), because I aint been stupid enough like those idiots on Jeremy Kyle, to let it run my life 24 hours a day.....

 

It´s just stupid to ask people for moderation of ADDICTIVE substance. Not everyone has the same strenght to resist addiction, specially people at a young age, who usually don´t work and don´t have anything useful to do during all day, and will take anything just to be accepted in a circle of friends. To ask for moderation is hypocrisy. Stuff like that isn´t necessary at all, there are other ways of having fun without using illegal substance. To hell with that excuse that it´s a medicinal herb... How many people use it with this intention? If it´s a medicinal herb then let it be used for that purpouse only, not just as a way of having fun. Who would seriously want to use a medicine that damages your brain cells...

 

Not to mention people who buy this illegal stuff give a direct contribution to traficants, specially in 3rd world countries, which is the biggest cause of death up there. I´m so tired of hypocrit people tryng to be politically correct at everything and then go on and buy something that is fuelling a market that kills a million times more then the war in Iraq. They would boycott meat that is produced with violence against animals, clothes that are made with animal fur, or products from companies that have interest in the Iraq war... and then buy a product that is the source of millions of dollars to the biggest criminals in the planet who kill imoderately. Just look at the situation in Colombia... I blame it directly on every midclass adolescent who buys that type of substance.

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It´s just stupid to ask people for moderation of ADDICTIVE substance. Not everyone has the same strenght to resist addiction, specially people at a young age, who usually don´t work and don´t have anything useful to do during all day, and will take anything just to be accepted in a circle of friends. To ask for moderation is hypocrisy. Stuff like that isn´t necessary at all, there are other ways of having fun without using illegal substance. To hell with that excuse that it´s a medicinal herb... How many people use it with this intention? If it´s a medicinal herb then let it be used for that purpouse only, not just as a way of having fun. Who would seriously want to use a medicine that damages your brain cells...

 

Not to mention people who buy this illegal stuff give a direct contribution to traficants, specially in 3rd world countries, which is the biggest cause of death up there. I´m so tired of hypocrit people tryng to be politically correct at everything and then go on and buy something that is fuelling a market that kills a million times more then the war in Iraq. They would boycott meat that is produced with violence against animals, clothes that are made with animal fur, or products from companies that have interest in the Iraq war... and then buy a product that is the source of millions of dollars to the biggest criminals in the planet who kill imoderately. Just look at the situation in Colombia... I blame it directly on every midclass adolescent who buys that type of substance.

 

Wrong, the hypocrisy is in keeping drugs illegal... Why shouldn't some poor farmer in Afghanistan be able to sell HIS Poppy Crop on the same open market as some rich American Tobacco grower...? THAT is where the hypocrisy lies my friend... All the criminality that exists exists because it is illegal, simple as. And it is illegal because hypocrite Western Govts keep it that way to suit their own interests, the farmer in Afghanistan is expected to raze his Poppy crop to the ground, but in the leafy counties of England Poppy crops are being cultivated with the blessing of the Ministry for Agriculture - WTF is that about then????? :huh: :huh: ... If the third world was able to sell its Poppy and Coca plants on the same open , free market, with the supply and growth regulated (and most importantly, taxed...)controlled by Govts, then these countries' economic problems would almost certainly improve and you would almost certainly see the drugs cartels disappear, or at least turn legit, overnight....

 

I'm sorry, but I just do not see the difference between sitting around drinking all day and sitting around smoking pot all day - BOTH create problems for society, and alcohol is actually far more addictive than Cannabis - FACT!!!! And people who indulge in binge drinking are far more prone to act violently than people who "binge toke" - another FACT... The only real difference is that one is perfectly legal while the other is not.... THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy..... Sod all to do with "Political Correctness" (whatever that means seeing as how the term is effectively meaningless, as it has been ripped out of its original meaning and context by Right Wing Tabloids and politicians......)

alcohol is actually far more addictive than Cannabis - FACT!!!! And people who indulge in binge drinking are far more prone to act violently than people who "binge toke" - another FACT... The only real difference is that one is perfectly legal while the other is not.... THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy.....

 

absolutely 100% in agreement..... I've yet to hear of kids smashing each other up after a few spliffs.

 

the story today which actually headlined above the floods (in the SOUTH) about how it effects you mentally and all that is a load of tosh and just a relevant way for the government to do a u-turn and return cannabis to a class B drug.

 

If that's the case shouldn't they be classifying nicotine and in particular alcohol which causes far greater social disruption in our high street each night. Oh no sorry they can't do that can they, it gives them so much money through taxing the stuff -_-

Alcohol maybe far more addictive but its also more socially acceptable.

It's a bit odd why cannabis should be reclassified. What is the reason for this?

Wrong, the hypocrisy is in keeping drugs illegal... Why shouldn't some poor farmer in Afghanistan be able to sell HIS Poppy Crop on the same open market as some rich American Tobacco grower...? THAT is where the hypocrisy lies my friend... All the criminality that exists exists because it is illegal, simple as. And it is illegal because hypocrite Western Govts keep it that way to suit their own interests, the farmer in Afghanistan is expected to raze his Poppy crop to the ground, but in the leafy counties of England Poppy crops are being cultivated with the blessing of the Ministry for Agriculture - WTF is that about then????? :huh: :huh: ... If the third world was able to sell its Poppy and Coca plants on the same open , free market, with the supply and growth regulated (and most importantly, taxed...)controlled by Govts, then these countries' economic problems would almost certainly improve and you would almost certainly see the drugs cartels disappear, or at least turn legit, overnight....

 

I'm sorry, but I just do not see the difference between sitting around drinking all day and sitting around smoking pot all day - BOTH create problems for society, and alcohol is actually far more addictive than Cannabis - FACT!!!! And people who indulge in binge drinking are far more prone to act violently than people who "binge toke" - another FACT... The only real difference is that one is perfectly legal while the other is not.... THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy..... Sod all to do with "Political Correctness" (whatever that means seeing as how the term is effectively meaningless, as it has been ripped out of its original meaning and context by Right Wing Tabloids and politicians......)

No, it´s not hipocrisy. Drinking is also stupid and it´s something disgusting that destroys families, yet its legal, which doesn´t mean legality should be extended to other drugs, while they *still* are not totally accepted in society. Extending legality to weed would not stop the immense problems caused by alcohol, it would only add another problem to the list. People who use drugs couldn´t care less about poverty in Afghanistan, they feed a mortal industry, someone who buys this stuff and yet claims to be worried with 3rd world problems is a big hypocrit.

No, it´s not hipocrisy. Drinking is also stupid and it´s something disgusting that destroys families, yet its legal, which doesn´t mean legality should be extended to other drugs, while they *still* are not totally accepted in society. Extending legality to weed would not stop the immense problems caused by alcohol, it would only add another problem to the list. People who use drugs couldn´t care less about poverty in Afghanistan, they feed a mortal industry, someone who buys this stuff and yet claims to be worried with 3rd world problems is a big hypocrit.

Nonsense... I absolutely care about the Third World, which is why I want farmers there who grow Coca, Hemp and Poppy crops to be able to compete on the same open market as those in the West who grow Tobacco... I see absolutely NO hypocrisy in that whatsoever... The hypocrisy lies with Western Govts who are scared of losing their control over the Free Market, why else would they be dictating to farmers in Afghanistan what cash crops THEY can and cannot grow and yet turn a blind eye to the massive fields of Tobacco and the carcinogens and other diseases this creates, as well as greenlighting the growing of Poppy crops in this country...? I'm an "all or nothing" kind of guy when it comes to drugs, you either legalise EVERYTHING, or NOTHING as far as I'm concerned.... You dont pick and choose which death-dealing drugs you get to regulate.... And since it is totally unrealistic to prohibit the sale of alcohol (something America tried in the 1920s with disastrous consequences..), then it seems as if it's the 'everything' option....

 

It's simple JJN, Prohibition just does not work....., it was proven in the 1920s, and even more so now IMO....

Nonsense... I absolutely care about the Third World, which is why I want farmers there who grow Coca, Hemp and Poppy crops to be able to compete on the same open market as those in the West who grow Tobacco... I see absolutely NO hypocrisy in that whatsoever... The hypocrisy lies with Western Govts who are scared of losing their control over the Free Market, why else would they be dictating to farmers in Afghanistan what cash crops THEY can and cannot grow and yet turn a blind eye to the massive fields of Tobacco and the carcinogens and other diseases this creates, as well as greenlighting the growing of Poppy crops in this country...? I'm an "all or nothing" kind of guy when it comes to drugs, you either legalise EVERYTHING, or NOTHING as far as I'm concerned.... You dont pick and choose which death-dealing drugs you get to regulate.... And since it is totally unrealistic to prohibit the sale of alcohol (something America tried in the 1920s with disastrous consequences..), then it seems as if it's the 'everything' option....

 

It's simple JJN, Prohibition just does not work....., it was proven in the 1920s, and even more so now IMO....

It was a different story... Puritans in USA prohibited something that was hugely used and accepted in society (alcohol), which obviously wouldn´t work. There´s no reason to legalize a drug that is not hugely accepted this way and isn´t part of our culture at all, if we go by your logic then we should also legalize murders and rapes, just because it happens, an maybe tax it to take it out of illegality... There´s no excuse for using marijuana, it doesn´t serve for nothing and it´s damaging. Or at least it should be restricted to people´s house, I have the right to walk in the streets without druggy people aorund.

It was a different story... Puritans in USA prohibited something that was hugely used and accepted in society (alcohol), which obviously wouldn´t work. There´s no reason to legalize a drug that is not hugely accepted this way and isn´t part of our culture at all, if we go by your logic then we should also legalize murders and rapes, just because it happens, an maybe tax it to take it out of illegality... There´s no excuse for using marijuana, it doesn´t serve for nothing and it´s damaging. Or at least it should be restricted to people´s house, I have the right to walk in the streets without druggy people aorund.

 

A pretty ridiculous comparison JJN, and you seem to forget that in Victorian European society it was actually perfectly acceptable to go to Opium dens and take Cocaine and Laudnum.. Read your Conan-Doyle and Charles Dickens sometime mate.... Alcohol and Tobacco "doesn't serve for nothin" either mate, so frankly your arguement against cannabis is weak, and really I dont see the difference in walking the streets full of "druggy" people or "drunk" people, frankly, I'd rather the streets were full of stoners and smackheads than drunks, neither of those groups are actually even capable of lifting a hand to hurt me when they're off their heads, unlike drunks who act violently and aggressively because of alcohol...

 

And by the way, the Hemp plant serves dozens of different uses from cloth to paper manufacture, and is a LOT less environmentally damaging than cutting down sh!tloads of trees..... :P You, being a Brazilian and having your rainforests destroyed by Western Capitalist scum should be all in favour of hemp being grown as a substitute for the destruction of your environment..... Or maybe you just dont give a sh!t about your own country....