But they've made statements and held press conferences before regarding the case have'nt they,? :unsure:

 

The only official statements have been about people being treated as suspects. There have been claims that police officers have said various things but nothing more.

And why have they apperently stopped looking for her? What happened to the fact that a man was seen taking her by one of the people staying in the resort? Have they just forgot about that?

This isn't a fact, it is just what someone said, i am sure their are lots of little blonde girls in a holiday resort. And since it was at night you wouldnt be able to see her distinctive eye shape.

 

 

If they have enough evidence to apperently tell Kate that if she confeses she will only have to serve one years sentence, then why continue to let them go, why not at least arrest them? The whole thing is beyond bizzare.

 

This could be used to try and trip the McCanns up if the police belive they did it, it could also be used to cause a mistake by the person who actualy took Madeleine if the police believe the McCanns didn't do it and someone else did.

Rob

 

The evidence such as the forensics and the sniffer dogs detecting stuff and so on came from the BRITISH police, the DNA was examined in Birmingham and so on, Met Police sniffer dogs went to Portugal to sniff out the apartment and car and so on for "death scent" so you are being a bit harsh on the Portugal police here

 

Plus the police deny that any such deal was offered so it is their word v Team McCann and tbh given the behaviour of some of them in recent weeks such as their attempt to frame Murat I am more inclined to believe the police tbh

 

You have to look at it from the POV of the police too, these are guys who's biggest drama of a typical day pre Madeleine was attending to a cat stuck up a tree or a speeding motorist and suddenly these guys are thrust into one of the biggest news stories ever which has had scrutiny like never before with even the pope involved, I cant begin to imagine the pressure these bobbies are under

 

what evidence?.... as far as im aware the blood has not been identified as madeleins.

 

the bbc reported this morning that the police in portugal DID make her that offer.

 

your point about the police supports the notion that they are clutching at straws!

 

the parents (who i admit have acted very strange throughout, hardly greiving) may well be guilty, but atm theres nothing other then suspicion and rumour to get them with.... BURN THE WITCHES... <_<

 

i still dont think it was them unless theres a plausable motive, there would HAVE to be a reason why they are involved.

 

 

 

There was an more interesting read in the Sun today, wether you think they're evidence or not, it's up to you to decide I guess.

 

The Sun.

 

Quiz... Kate was asked why she washed Cuddle Cat after Maddie vanised. Outfit... Maddie was in pyjamas when she went missing at holiday villa. Clues... Maddie's blood was said to be found by window. Claims... police belive mothers Bible is a vital part of evidence. Sedative... cops asked if Kate had given a drug to Maddie at villa. Hire Car... cops say fluids from Maddie were in family vehical.

 

 

Some 'evidence' there could easily be pointed towards blame at the McCanns. WHY did they hire a car after she vanished and then somehow drops of her blood was in there? WHY is a hunt still carrying on?, It's pretty obvious she's dead.

There was an more interesting read in the Sun today, wether you think they're evidence or not, it's up to you to decide I guess.

 

The Sun.

 

Quiz... Kate was asked why she washed Cuddle Cat after Maddie vanised. Outfit... Maddie was in pyjamas when she went missing at holiday villa. Clues... Maddie's blood was said to be found by window. Claims... police belive mothers Bible is a vital part of evidence. Sedative... cops asked if Kate had given a drug to Maddie at villa. Hire Car... cops say fluids from Maddie were in family vehical.

Some 'evidence' there could easily be pointed towards blame at the McCanns. WHY did they hire a car after she vanished and then somehow drops of her blood was in there? WHY is a hunt still carrying on?, It's pretty obvious she's dead.

 

The hunt is clearly not carrying on, hence why their family and friends keep going on about how this whole thing is just a waste of time, and how the abducter is probebly out there laughing somewhere.

 

The police has not yet actually said it was her bloody in their car,nor have they said anything else, and until they do then I would'nt believe the Sun or any other tabloid, as they are known to make up and exadurate everything to make the story more interesting in order to sell more papers. If there was evidence for any of those things the Sun has suggested, it would be simply insanity for the police not to have arrested or charged the McCannes so I don't buy it. -_-

The hunt is clearly not carrying on, hence why their family and friends keep going on about how this whole thing is just a waste of time, and how the abducter is probebly out there laughing somewhere.

 

The police has not yet actually said it was her bloody in their car,nor have they said anything else, and until they do then I would'nt believe the Sun or any other tabloid, as they are known to make up and exadurate everything to make the story more interesting in order to sell more papers. If there was evidence for any of those things the Sun has suggested, it would be simply insanity for the police not to have arrested or charged the McCannes so I don't buy it. -_-

The Hunt 'is' carrying on though, there's still the silly worldwide search going on for one little blonde hair girl, the hunt that was doomed in the first place as it's impossible. AND who says she was kidnapped? Thats just a theory.

The Sun are pretty decent when it comes to stuff like this, Yes it's a trashy paper, but not as bad as papers such as the Daily Mirror. The McCanns are suspects, so it's pretty obvious what the police are thinking, shame it's taken 4 months to work this out. <_<

well well.... they are flying home.... now.

...... surely if they were REAL suspects, if there was GOOD evidence against them, they wouldnt be allowed to fly home.

The whole thing is distasteful

 

The McCann's are suspected child killers yet are being treated like royalty

 

VIP treatment at airport for instance and no doubt there will be newspaper articles and interviews that will earn them millions, ticker tape parade to welcome them back to their home town, book and film deals, undoubtedly offers for reality tv shows and so on so the fact they are going to be treated like royalty and returning heroes is in incredibly poor taste when they are under suspicion of child killing

 

Feels like they are fleeing justice and so much for them saying they will never leave Portugal without Madeleine :manson: :rolleyes:

Edited September 9, 200717 yr by Vic Vega

The whole thing is distasteful

 

The McCann's are suspected child killers yet are being treated like royalty

 

VIP treatment at airport for instance and no doubt there will be newspaper articles and interviews that will earn them millions, ticker tape parade to welcome them back to their home town, book and film deals, undoubtedly offers for reality tv shows and so on so the fact they are going to be treated like royalty and returning heroes is in incredibly poor taste when they are under suspicion of child killing

 

Feels like they are fleeing justice and so much for them saying they will never leave Portugal without Madeleine :manson: :rolleyes:

 

 

royalty ala diana mode, if the reports of the drive to the airport is anything to go by...

 

and here you are STILL ready with the noose, ok, they might be implicated, but on the other hand they might well (and probably are) totally innocent! (of killing/abducting, not of neglect which they clearly are guilty). have YOU ever been accused of something you are innocent of? nothing other then others suspicions as evidence?.. well i think you have, so its double standards !

 

 

As suspects i thought they had to stay in Portugal.

royalty ala diana mode, if the reports of the drive to the airport is anything to go by...

 

and here you are STILL ready with the noose, ok, they might be implicated, but on the other hand they might well (and probably are) totally innocent! (of killing/abducting, not of neglect which they clearly are guilty). have YOU ever been accused of something you are innocent of? nothing other then others suspicions as evidence?.. well i think you have, so its double standards !

 

They are like it or not OFFICIAL suspects in the accidental or deliberate killing of a child, they have undergone lengthy interviews by the police and authorities, at the moment they have not been charged with any offence but are the prime suspects in a criminal case, can't compare that with a highly amusing whispering and heresay campaign created by another forum for which there was not even 0.01% evidence of any wrongdoing let alone any criminal or police investigation, it was merely a tiny number of members of another forum attempting to discredit me not even 0.00000001% comparable with the McCann's criminal investigation, the whispering campaign against me was rightfully laughed off not just by me but by others too but the McCann's like it or not remain prime suspects in a murder / manslaughter investigation

 

And I have not accused them of anything, they may be completely innocent or they may be guilty I don't know that is a matter for the police and the courts but the police must have at the very least a lot of circumstancial evidence to bring them in twice for 14 hrs of questioning

Edited September 9, 200717 yr by Vic Vega

surely if they come back to UK the social services have to step in though, as leaving the kids on their own is pure negligence. It is no way the same as leaving your kids in your own house whilst you are in a garden. If this was a lower class family from a rough area of London, they'd be straight in there no doubt.

id call that (interviewed twice) as crossing the 't's and dotting the 'i's . they are suspects, but so was robert murat, suspects in my book doesnt mean 'guilty until proven innocent'. <_< . i hate lynch mobs, and although theres room for speculation that they ARE involved, thats all it is... speculation. this thread though has always been very anti-mccann... not surprising, they DID neglect their kids, they ARE handling it strangely, but that doesnt make them guilty of maddys murder. if they are innocent then being accused of it is just an awful thing to happen.

 

all im saying is, dont get the rope out just yet, wait until they have been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that they are guilty... then hang 'em!

id call that (interviewed twice) as crossing the 't's and dotting the 'i's . they are suspects, but so was robert murat, suspects in my book doesnt mean 'guilty until proven innocent'. <_< . i hate lynch mobs, and although theres room for speculation that they ARE involved, thats all it is... speculation. this thread though has always been very anti-mccann... not surprising, they DID neglect their kids, they ARE handling it strangely, but that doesnt make them guilty of maddys murder. if they are innocent then being accused of it is just an awful thing to happen.

 

all im saying is, dont get the rope out just yet, wait until they have been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that they are guilty... then hang 'em!

 

I haven't accused them of anything Rob that is a matter for the police I am more concerned about the fact that while there is this cloud of suspicion hanging over them that until they have been formally cleared by the police that they should not cash in on the whole case with selling their story to newspapers and tv interviews and generally being treated by the media as returning heroes

 

Whether they killed Madeleine or not there has certainly been aspects of theor behaviour and conduct that should not mean they are treated as heroes and celebrities

The whole thing is distasteful

 

The McCann's are suspected child killers yet are being treated like royalty

 

VIP treatment at airport for instance and no doubt there will be newspaper articles and interviews that will earn them millions, ticker tape parade to welcome them back to their home town, book and film deals, undoubtedly offers for reality tv shows and so on so the fact they are going to be treated like royalty and returning heroes is in incredibly poor taste when they are under suspicion of child killing

 

Feels like they are fleeing justice and so much for them saying they will never leave Portugal without Madeleine :manson: :rolleyes:

 

I find it ironic that in the last 48 Hours, I have done a U-turn over my opinion of their guilt in this case.

 

If the Portuguese police SERIOUSLY thought they were guilty of killing Madeleine then why did they not arrest them and charge them before they flew out of the country???

 

Answer: Because they don't have ANY credible evidence to prove they are guilty.

 

Also if you had listened to Radio 5 Live this morning, then you would have heard about a leaked e-mail sent to the BBC by a source who works at the Birmingham Lab were the testing has was carried out. It stated that the blood particles were of insignificant amounts, and could only prove that they belonged to a child, but could not convincingly even prove that they belonged to a boy or girl, let alone specifically to the DNA of the corpse of Madeleine.

 

The e-mail also stated that no cleaning fluid had been used in the boot of the car, which is certainly what you would expect to get rid of evidence.

 

When you couple this with the fact that media have had lens trained on the McCann's since very early in this case, then the whole concept of the McCann's being able to get rid of a body after 25 days is looking ridiculous.

 

However, what is undeniable, is that this case has cost the Portuguese tourism industry an estimated €35 - €50 Million Euro's in lost business due to cancellations and lost bookings to the Algarve area of Portugal.

 

To my eyes and certainly what the legal experts discussing this story on Radio 5 Live now think, is that making the McCann's suspects was nothing more than a strategy to make the McCann's unwelcome, as the Portuguese police have run out of leads and this story has become a national embarrassment to Portugal (Backing exactly the judgement of the yesterday's Independent newspaper).

 

Radio 5 Live also revealed that this is the 4th occasion in 9 years that a child has gone missing to a foreign holidaymaker whilst in Portugal. And in the previous three occasions neither the child or the body was found, and after a period of 2 to 5 months (the German, Swedish & Spanish respectively) parents of the missing child were made suspects but with no travelling restrictions to effectively get rid of them out of the country.

I find it ironic that in the last 48 Hours, I have done a U-turn over my opinion of their guilt in this case.

 

If the Portuguese police SERIOUSLY thought they were guilty of killing Madeleine then why did they not arrest them and charge them before they flew out of the country???

 

Answer: Because they don't have ANY credible evidence to prove they are guilty.

 

Also if you had listened to Radio 5 Live this morning, then you would have heard about a leaked e-mail sent to the BBC by a source who works at the Birmingham Lab were the testing has was carried out. It stated that the blood particles were of insignificant amounts, and could only prove that they belonged to a child, but could not convincingly even prove that they belonged to a boy or girl, let alone specifically to the DNA of the corpse of Madeleine.

 

The e-mail also stated that no cleaning fluid had been used in the boot of the car, which is certainly what you would expect to get rid of evidence.

 

When you couple this with the fact that media have had lens trained on the McCann's since very early in this case, then the whole concept of the McCann's being able to get rid of a body after 25 days is looking ridiculous.

 

However, what is undeniable, is that this case has cost the Portuguese tourism industry an estimated €35 - €50 Million Euro's in lost business due to cancellations and lost bookings to the Algarve area of Portugal.

 

To my eyes and certainly what the legal experts discussing this story on Radio 5 Live now think, is that making the McCann's suspects was nothing more than a strategy to make the McCann's unwelcome, as the Portuguese police have run out of leads and this story has become a national embarrassment to Portugal (Backing exactly the judgement of the yesterday's Independent newspaper).

 

Radio 5 Live also revealed that this is the 4th occasion in 9 years that a child has gone missing to a foreign holidaymaker whilst in Portugal. And in the previous three occasions neither the child or the body was found, and after a period of 2 to 5 months (the German, Swedish & Spanish respectively) parents of the missing child were made suspects but with no travelling restrictions to effectively get rid of them out of the country.

 

EXACTLY. Well said. Some people seem to actually want it be to true that they killed her, which is utterly digusting. The fact of the matter is, the police clearly do NOT have sufficient evidence, if they did, then they would've arrested/charged them, instead of actually allowing them to fly out of the country back to the UK.

 

I have turned off Sky News, because the way they report this whole thing is beyond ridiculous and completelly over the top. The McCanns are flying back to the UK, big bloody deal. They are not the royal family or the pope ffs, Sky News are just such a ridiculous channel imo.

I haven't accused them of anything Rob that is a matter for the police I am more concerned about the fact that while there is this cloud of suspicion hanging over them that until they have been formally cleared by the police that they should not cash in on the whole case with selling their story to newspapers and tv interviews and generally being treated by the media as returning heroes

 

Whether they killed Madeleine or not there has certainly been aspects of theor behaviour and conduct that should not mean they are treated as heroes and celebrities

 

Exactly, in so many ways they are responsible as parents for what happened to Maddie whether or not they actually did the deed, or if it was some pervert or p****.. And their actions since have been, at best, totally bizarre, at worst, downright suspicious.. I dont like these people, I dont think they're fit to be parents, I dont think they should get away with the fact that, at the very least, their negligent actions were clearly a contributory factor in the abduction of their child, and I am thoroughly disgusted by the way the Media scum have treated them like they were royalty for the past four months and have totally indulged them instead of criticising their actions as parents...

 

And to Rob - I dont believe that anything Craig has said on this thread is out of order in any way whatsoever, I remember some of the things both of us said in the past about the likes of Michael Jackson and the child abuse allegations, so I dont think either of us should be all that critical of anything that anyone else says....

I find it ironic that in the last 48 Hours, I have done a U-turn over my opinion of their guilt in this case.

 

There's different degrees of guilt in this case though TiP, and I think you are incredibly foolish to absolve them of any and all responsibility. They had a responsibility to ensure the safety of their children, their negligent, wreckless actions caused all this sh!t to happen as far as I am concerned (the guy who fell asleep at the wheel of his car and caused that rail-crash that happened a few years back was held accountable for his actions, I'm sure HE didn't intend to cause a rail crash, but that is exactly what happened because of his lack of responsibility as a driver...), so I feel at the very least, that charges of Child Neglect should be forthcoming, anything else just aint right, there's the safety and well-being of their two other kids to be taken into account here...

 

This is the reason why I'm so peed off at the ten people who are quick to absolve the McCanns of any and all responsibility, they just dont get it that responsibility takes many forms, not just the criminal aspects - the McCanns had responsibilities as parents, and they failed in their duties, as pretty much ALL the parents on BJ have commented in various posts...

Radio 5 Live also revealed that this is the 4th occasion in 9 years that a child has gone missing to a foreign holidaymaker whilst in Portugal. And in the previous three occasions neither the child or the body was found, and after a period of 2 to 5 months (the German, Swedish & Spanish respectively) parents of the missing child were made suspects but with no travelling restrictions to effectively get rid of them out of the country.

 

And you accuse Craig of coming up with some pretty lame conspiracy theories.... :lol:

 

Are you seriously implying that the Portuguese authorities are doing this deliberately?? What nonsense.. Four kids going missing in NINE YEARS??? That's their evidence is it to try and prove some sort of elaborate conspiracy...?? Please, considering that well over a THOUSAND kids go missing off the streets of our own country every year never to be heard of again (not that this ever gets exactly widely reported... -_- ), we've got some nerve criticising the actions of the Portuguese police.... -_-

 

How about you actually blame the feckless, incompetent parents mate, if they'd looked after the kid properly, none of this would've happened in the first fukkin' place..... <_< Sorry to be so blunt folks, but it is a fact, however uncomfortable we may find it...