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Around abouts zero I should think, as Northern Ireland and the Republic are both in the same pot! :heehee:

 

Here are the FIFA World Rankings atm btw... seems unlikely actually that there'll be any movement regarding England.

 

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/...75&rank=162

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/...=0&rank=163

 

NI in the worlds top 32- the same number of entrants in each WC finals!!.

 

Wouldn't be suprised if Scotland overtake England, with NI doing the same!.

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:rofl: we're not going to SOuth Africa then

 

Scotland played against the likes of Italy and France with such pride and fierce passion.

 

Our bunch of overpaid pansies would just drop their heads after 5 minutes and give up if they hadn't scored. Not qualifying is the shock our bunch of primadonnas need.

 

It's time our national manager picked the on form players, and not just the celebrity names.

 

And get Brian Barwick out too! It's not just McClaren's head that should be rolling. And was it me or did I see a distinct lack of disappointment from the players after the final whistle, seeing as they get to enjoy a summer holiday on their overexuberant wages.

Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts

Nov 07 +/- Ranking

Oct 07 +/- Pts

 

Top Pool of Seeds

3 1 Italy 1498 0 111

4 2 Spain 1349 2 123

5 3 Germany 1296 0 51

6 4 Czech Republic 1290 3 116

7 5 France 1243 -3 -28

8 6 Portugal 1241 0 38

9 7 Netherlands 1170 -2 -37

10 8 Croatia 1129 0 -26

11 9 Greece 1114 3 80

 

Second Pool of Seeds

12 10 England 1113 -1 -24

13 11 Romania 1088 -1 2

14 12 Scotland 990 -1 -59

16 13 Turkey 924 12 153

18 14 Bulgaria 877 16 160

22 15 Russia 861 -6 -99

23 16 Poland 855 -3 18

24 17 Sweden 853 0 32

26 18 Israel 852 11 145

 

Third Pool of Seeds

28 19 Norway 827 -7 -3

29 20 Ukraine 824 -7 -4

30 21 Serbia 820 -3 34

31 22 Denmark 797 -2 28

32 23 Northern Ireland 780 4 64

35 24 Republic of Ireland 731 -3 9

36 25 Finland 695 8 28

44 26 Switzerland 657 -3 -19

49 27 Belgium 600 5 23

 

Fourth Pool of Seeds

50 28 Slovakia 590 0 -10

51 29 Bosnia-Herzegovina 585 -3 -45

52 30 Hungary 581 -4 -49

53 31 Moldova 579 8 82

58 32 Wales 560 0 39

59 33 FYR Macedonia 556 16 133

60 34 Belarus 552 34 194

61 35 Lithuania 549 29 169

65 36 Cyprus 493 -8 -63

 

Fifth Pool of Seeds

77 37 Georgia 414 -6 -33

82 38 Albania 407 -12 -48

83 39 Slovenia 403 -7 -19

88 40 Latvia 383 -2 -3

89 41 Iceland 380 -10 -30

90 42 Armenia 367 -8 -33

91 43 Austria 366 -3 -16

110 44 Kazakhstan 297 12 48

118 45 Azerbaijan 274 -2 -5

 

Sixth Pool of Seeds

123 46 Liechtenstein 260 -4 -2

128 47 Estonia 223 2 12

139 48 Malta 183 -2 -13

152 49 Luxembourg 127 -2 -5

172 50 Montenegro 65 -1 0

174 51 Andorra 57 -1 -4

195 52 Faroe Islands 12 -1 0

197 53 San Marino 6 -1 0

 

Worst draw: Italy, Switzerland, Slovakia, Austria, Montengro

 

Best: Greece, Belgium, Cyprus, Armenia, San Marino

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Phil Scolari still manages Portugal right? And then he's leaving after Euro 2008?

 

I hope we get Portugal then, although tbh if we're actually gonna win the World Cup then we'll have to play the best teams in the world, so why not start by playing them in the qualifiers! And besides, I think *if* we draw a big team [a la Italy] and beat them, confidence will be huge which can only be a good thing. ^_^

Second Pool of Seeds

12 10 England 1113 -1 -24

13 11 Romania 1088 -1 2

14 12 Scotland 990 -1 -59

16 13 Turkey 924 12 153

18 14 Bulgaria 877 16 160

22 15 Russia 861 -6 -99

23 16 Poland 855 -3 18

24 17 Sweden 853 0 32

26 18 Israel 852 11 145

 

So we (Scotland) won't be able to play - and beat - you (England) then. Damn. :(

I'm becoming so tempted to support Scotland.

 

Sick of seeing an overpaid team of celebrities walking around the pitch with no pride. I hardly saw a tear when they lost the other night <_<

The England players don't have any pride playing for their country.

 

You've only gotta look at Gerrard today for Liverpool and compare him to Wednesday night against Croatia. Completely different player.

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What time is the draw? And also are sky sports news or anyone covering it?

 

 

think it is on BBC interactive

I'm becoming so tempted to support Scotland.

 

Oh, I wouldn't.

 

You lot think England make it hard for themselves, you've no idea.

 

To use the old cliche...we've 'snatched defeat from the jaws of victory' so many times that I'd be tempted to support England!

 

Humm only the top team in the group with qualify with 8 of the 9 highest (on average as one group has less teams) points gained in second place going into the playoffs for the remaing 4 places. Scotland should be aiming for at least second then.
Humm only the top team in the group with qualify with 8 of the 9 highest (on average as one group has less teams) points gained in second place going into the playoffs for the remaing 4 places. Scotland should be aiming for at least second then.

I'm not sure how they determine which runner-up misses out. I suspect they will ignore results against the bottom team in each of the six-team groups.

I'm not sure how they determine which runner-up misses out. I suspect they will ignore results against the bottom team in each of the six-team groups.

 

i dunno, i am sure we will find out nearer the the time.

You're gona get us again...

and then I will be at Maksimir, in Zagreb! supporting you.... :cheer:

 

I'd love us to get the Scots!

 

Aisa is being drawn first

 

Still to come

Europe

Affrica

North America

 

Australia have swtiched to the Aisan group from the Oceanian group (i think)

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