Moving on to the racism bit ;)

 

I don't see how this can be construed as being racist, if he had been whipped by someone in a nuns uniform would it be deemed to be blasphemous ? no, any intelligent person would realise it is just a sex game and being whipped by a nun is just that and not remotely blasphemous

 

Is Prince Harry a racist because he wore a uniform to a party ?

 

These are NOT nazi uniforms, I have studied military regalia over the years and nazi guard uniforms had streaks UPWARDS whereas these are horizontal so that devalues the claim that there was any auschwitz connection to this game, The clothes the woman is taking off in the picture are not nazi uniforms. It is rather standard S&M clothing which has military elements by default (google some images up if you dare), but it has nothing to do with nazism. It all seems to me a pretty standard guard-prisoner fantasy, it was the tabloid who gave it all a nazi slant

 

Plus what Mosley thinks of Hamilton is utterly irrelevant, punishments or lack of them are handed out by STEWARDS who are independent of the FIA governing body and the stewards favoured Hamilton many times last season (no punishment for using extra set of tyres in practice at Brazil, towed back onto the track by the crane, no punishment for brake testing Vettel behind the safety car) and this season when they punished him once at Malaysia they punished Kovalainen too so there was no anti Hamilton bias, Mosley threatened Barcelona with withdrawal of their GP after "Hamilton Family" stuff at testing so I am not aware of any racial dislike of Hamilton by either Mosley or the stewards

 

Is 'Allo Allo racist ? is Dads Army racist ? both of them involved people wearing nazi uniforms, was Fawlty Towers that had Basil verbally abusing German guests and goose stepping racist ? NO

Edited March 30, 200817 yr by Vic Vega

Here is a copy of the video from NOTW

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DxvFADEX3us

 

 

1) The uniforms are not nazi issue or remotely resemble nazi uniforms

 

2) The dominatrix is speaking in an ENGLISH accent, I am not aware of any nazi concentration camp guards speaking in English accents so that devalues the NOTW claim

 

3) S+M is a perfectly legal mainstream activity, you can buy S+M stuff in Ann Summers which is in almost every single shopping mall in this country

 

4) The checking for lice would I imagine occur in every UK prison too as part of standard prisoner medicals

 

Mosley has no case to answer, of course NOTW readers will lap it up but if you add up the IQ of 99% of the NOTW readership and combine it all it would still be in total a lower IQ than the typical garden slug

Edited March 30, 200817 yr by Vic Vega

omg , lol :rofl:

We have a Pole on Pole!

 

1. Robert Kubica (Poland) BMW Sauber 1 min 33.096

2. Felipe Massa (Brazil) Ferrari 1:33.123

3. Lewis Hamilton (Britain) McLaren 1:33.292

4. Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) Ferrari 1:33.418

5. Heikki Kovalainen (Finland) McLaren 1:33.488

6. Nick Heidfeld (Germany) BMW Sauber 1:33.737

7. Jarno Trulli (Italy) Toyota 1:33.994

8. Nico Rosberg (Germany) Williams - Toyota 1:34.015

9. Jenson Button (Britain) Honda 1:35.057

10. Fernando Alonso (Spain) Renault 1:35.115

11. Mark Webber (Australia) RedBull - Renault 1:32.371

12. Rubens Barrichello (Brazil) Honda 1:32.508

13. Timo Glock (Germany) Toyota 1:32.528

14. Nelsinho Piquet (Brazil) Renault 1:32.790

15. Sebastien Bourdais (France) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:32.915

16. Kazuki Nakajima (Japan) Williams - Toyota 1:32.943

17. David Coulthard (Britain) RedBull - Renault 1:33.433

18. Giancarlo Fisichella (Italy) Force India - Ferrari 1:33.501

19. Sebastian Vettel (Germany) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:33.562

20. Adrian Sutil (Germany) Force India - Ferrari 1:33.845

21. Anthony Davidson (Britain) Super Aguri - Honda 1:34.140

22. Takuma Sato (Japan) Super Aguri - Honda 1:35.725

 

 

 

A truly fantastic drive today by Robert Kubica who had 2 of his grandparents died in Nazi concentration camps during the Second World War. After this week in Motor Racing when the drivers & constructors have been a very distant second in terms of news coverage this is rather ironic.

 

Still I wonder what Max Mosley, son of British Fascist Leader Oswald Mosley who had Adolf Hitler as a guest of honour at his wedding think of that.

 

Putting my neutral hat on, I would love to see Kubica win tomorrow, although I fully expect a Ferrari one two as it is manifestly clear that they are in a different speed to the nearest opposition. Only car reliability or driver incompetence will stop one of them winning the title this year.

Congrats to Kubica, hope Kimi and Massa are heavier and pass Kubica and keep Hamilton at bay, Kubica must be ultra light given Heidi is 5 places back

 

Hitler presided over Oswald's wedding not Max's, people should not be judged by the actions of their parents nor should parents be judged by the actions of their kids

 

I adore Maggie Thatcher but despise that lowlife scum son of her's Mark for instance

Congrats to Kubica, hope Kimi and Massa are heavier and pass Kubica and keep Hamilton at bay, Kubica must be ultra light given Heidi is 5 places back

 

Hitler presided over Oswald's wedding not Max's, people should not be judged by the actions of their parents nor should parents be judged by the actions of their kids

 

I adore Maggie Thatcher but despise that lowlife scum son of her's Mark for instance

 

Firstly in the context of the sentence I wrote, the comma (,) was placed after Max Mosley therefore anyone with a decent understanding would be able to comprehend that I was referring to Hitler attend Oswald Mosley's wedding. Had I placed the comma (,) immediately after Oswald Mosley then I would have been referring to Max. So maybe you need to top up on your knowledge of English Grammar. :wink:

 

Secondly, as current British & European law thinks (wrongly or rightly) that parents are responsible for their children's behaviour then your opinion goes against that viewpoint.

 

Thirdly, your example is probably not the best to state your opinion.

 

(I leave the Falklands Islands alone, as I believe they should taking into account history belong to Argentina, but that is only my humble opinion.) As secret leaked minutes showed in 1988 Margaret Thatcher was instigated within the whole South African controversy of 1984 otherwise known as the Coventry Four:

 

At the end of March 1984, four South Africans were arrested in Coventry, remanded in custody, and charged with contravening the UN arms embargo, which prohibited exports to apartheid South Africa of military equipment. Thatcher took a personal interest in the Coventry Four, and 10 Downing Street requested daily summaries of the case from the prosecuting authority, HM Customs and Excise. Within a month, the Coventry Four had been freed from jail and allowed to travel to South Africa—on condition that they returned to England for their trial later that year. EXCEPT, In June 1984 Thatcher invited apartheid South Africa's president, P. W. Botha, and foreign minister, Pik Botha, to Chequers in an effort to stave off growing international pressure for the imposition of economic sanctions against South Africa, where Britain had invested heavily despite intense unpopularity of the majority of the Great British public. In August 1984, foreign minister, Pik Botha, decided not to allow the Coventry Four to return to stand trial, thereby forfeiting £200,000 bail money put up by the South African embassy in London. The Coventry Four affair, and Thatcher's alleged involvement in it, would hit the headlines four years later when British diplomat, Patrick Haseldine, wrote a letter to The Guardian newspaper on 7 December 1988 where the minutes clearly stated that Thatcher got her way over the vast majority of the (spineless) Cabinet (otherwise known as the "vegetables" thanks to Spitting Image where this whole incident was satirised in 1988).

 

Whereas at least Mark Thatcher was trying to raise funds for the 2004 Equatorial Guinea coup d'état attempt was an alleged coup attempt against the government of Equatorial Guinea in order to remove its President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, carried out by mercenaries and organised by mainly British based financiers.

 

For those of you who are not familiar President Teodoro Mbasogo is the closest political ally & personal friend of President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. I could go into great detail about how this President has gone about murdering the opposition, syphoning away billions of money at the expense of his nation, etc. But lets just say in 2005 Amnesty International named Equatorial Guinea 4th in the world on the list of worst offenders on human rights, civil liberties and welfare.

 

So one could make a strong case the Mark's cause was a lot more worthy than Margaret's.

 

Fourthly, Mark has always been loved by her mother, whereas his twin Carol was always seen as the Black Sheep of the Family until her appearance as a rank 100-1 outsider on 2005's I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here. However, her performance on the show which she subsequently won is regarded as "Probably the most stunning positive turn around of public opinion in the history of UK Reality TV" Max Clifford.

Firstly in the context of the sentence I wrote, the comma (,) was placed after Max Mosley therefore anyone with a decent understanding would be able to comprehend that I was referring to Hitler attend Oswald Mosley's wedding. Had I placed the comma (,) immediately after Oswald Mosley then I would have been referring to Max. So maybe you need to top up on your knowledge of English Grammar. :wink:

 

Secondly, as current British & European law thinks (wrongly or rightly) that parents are responsible for their children's behaviour then your opinion goes against that viewpoint.

 

Thirdly, your example is probably not the best to state your opinion.

 

(I leave the Falklands Islands alone, as I believe they should taking into account history belong to Argentina, but that is only my humble opinion.) As secret leaked minutes showed in 1988 Margaret Thatcher was instigated within the whole South African controversy of 1984 otherwise known as the Coventry Four:

 

At the end of March 1984, four South Africans were arrested in Coventry, remanded in custody, and charged with contravening the UN arms embargo, which prohibited exports to apartheid South Africa of military equipment. Thatcher took a personal interest in the Coventry Four, and 10 Downing Street requested daily summaries of the case from the prosecuting authority, HM Customs and Excise. Within a month, the Coventry Four had been freed from jail and allowed to travel to South Africa—on condition that they returned to England for their trial later that year. EXCEPT, In June 1984 Thatcher invited apartheid South Africa's president, P. W. Botha, and foreign minister, Pik Botha, to Chequers in an effort to stave off growing international pressure for the imposition of economic sanctions against South Africa, where Britain had invested heavily despite intense unpopularity of the majority of the Great British public. In August 1984, foreign minister, Pik Botha, decided not to allow the Coventry Four to return to stand trial, thereby forfeiting £200,000 bail money put up by the South African embassy in London. The Coventry Four affair, and Thatcher's alleged involvement in it, would hit the headlines four years later when British diplomat, Patrick Haseldine, wrote a letter to The Guardian newspaper on 7 December 1988 where the minutes clearly stated that Thatcher got her way over the vast majority of the (spineless) Cabinet (otherwise known as the "vegetables" thanks to Spitting Image where this whole incident was satirised in 1988).

 

Whereas at least Mark Thatcher was trying to raise funds for the 2004 Equatorial Guinea coup d'état attempt was an alleged coup attempt against the government of Equatorial Guinea in order to remove its President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, carried out by mercenaries and organised by mainly British based financiers.

 

For those of you who are not familiar President Teodoro Mbasogo is the closest political ally & personal friend of President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. I could go into great detail about how this President has gone about murdering the opposition, syphoning away billions of money at the expense of his nation, etc. But lets just say in 2005 Amnesty International named Equatorial Guinea 4th in the world on the list of worst offenders on human rights, civil liberties and welfare.

 

So one could make a strong case the Mark's cause was a lot more worthy than Margaret's.

 

Fourthly, Mark has always been loved by her mother, whereas his twin Carol was always seen as the Black Sheep of the Family until her appearance as a rank 100-1 outsider on 2005's I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here. However, her performance on the show which she subsequently won is regarded as "Probably the most stunning positive turn around of public opinion in the history of UK Reality TV" Max Clifford.

 

Sometimes less pleasant things have to be done in politics for "the greater good"

 

I personally think sanctions are an utter waste of time, did sanctions affect Saddam Hussein ? made no difference at all but ordinary Iraqis beared the brunt of the sanctions with a massive suffering with shortages of food and medicine while Saddam Hussein was living in palaces with plentiful supplies of luxury foods, sanctions against Iraq killed tens and thousands of ordinary Iraqis so what good were sanctions there ?

 

Same with South Africa, sanctions personally hurt Botha ? hell they did all they did was hurt ordinary South Africans so sanctions were a complete waste of time

 

I am also against arms embargos and all the rest too, that leads to ordinary South Africans being put out of work, has no effect on Botha whatsoever so if Maggie was against sanctions on South African then good on her

 

She put massive political pressure on South Africa to release Mandela and thanks to Maggie and others he was released, Mandela thanked Maggie as one of those who got him released.

 

Sanctions ain't the way, political pressure is the way

 

Just because other countries wanted to be sheep and follow each other imposing sanctions which cause nothing but misery to ordinary South Africans then good on Maggie for bypassing that

 

 

I must be in the wrong place, I thought this was the F1 thread :rofl:

so did i :huh:

 

i swear to god if trulli holds every1 up as usual....

I must be in the wrong place, I thought this was the F1 thread :rofl:

 

Blame it all on Nazi fetish loving pervert and the President of FIA Max Mosley. That is why Formula 1 has been in the news all week, but with next to none of it to do with the racing.

 

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0604_mosley.shtml

 

 

His breathtakingly arrogant/stupid decision to sue the News Of The World has led to these further lurid allegations against him. I think the evidence is pretty clear that his position is now untenable.

 

Overnight, the American Automobile Association (A.A.A.), the world's largest automobile body with more than 50 million members, joined auto clubs from other nations such as Germany, Japan, Israel and the Netherlands in the call for Mosley to quit.

 

When you've become a figure of ridicule, you no longer have any moral authority as someone in his position to stay in that role and be able to administer "Ze Punishment" like he did to McLaren last year.

 

I'm currently listening to Radio5 Live's Sunday Sportsweek. Considering it is the weekend of the Grand National, the two FA Cup Semi Finals, the Olympic Torch being taken around London, etc. Yet the first topic was all about Max Mosley and his position of authority in Formula1.

 

The guests on the show journalist Harry Collins, Broadcaster/writer Michael Parkinson, and Lord Sebastian Coe have expressed the view that Max Mosley is a dead man walking. Michael Parkinson expressed near outrage at the "brassneck" and hypocrisy of the guy who instigated a moral code within Formula1, and compared him to Robert Mugabe for being completely unwilling to accept the "blindingly obvious" that he is toast.

It should make no difference to his job

 

If your hero Ron Dennis is found to have had an affair and this caused the break up of his marriage should he resign from McLaren given the witchunt against Mosley ?

 

Again what Mosley does in his own private life is his own personal business so long as it is legal activity and BDSM is legal so he has no case to answer

 

If as is said the whores were ordered to get nazi uniforms then I am guessing they sent David Blunkett out to do the shopping as there is not even the remotest connection to a nazi uniform, where are the swastikas or the eagle crests ? hell even Prince Harry managed to hire a proper nazi costume :rofl: so despite the lead prossie being on the game for years she has no idea where to get a nazi uniform ? her credibility is shot to pieces, this was just plain old prisoner / guard domination and submission the same sorta thing that is practiced in homes right across the country (3m partake in BDSM 1 in 8 of the adult population), I am not going to debate the rights and wrongs of BDSM but it is a widespread practice

 

And if Max Mosley resigns then Jean Todt (linked for years with Ferrari your biggest rivals) will almost certainly take over from him so if you think Mosley is hard on McCheaters wait till you see Todt :lol: as the saying goes "be careful what you wish for you might just get it" ;)

 

 

It should make no difference to his job

 

If your hero Ron Dennis is found to have had an affair and this caused the break up of his marriage should he resign from McLaren given the witchunt against Mosley ?

 

Again what Mosley does in his own private life is his own personal business so long as it is legal activity and BDSM is legal so he has no case to answer

 

If as is said the whores were ordered to get nazi uniforms then I am guessing they sent David Blunkett out to do the shopping as there is not even the remotest connection to a nazi uniform, where are the swastikas or the eagle crests ? hell even Prince Harry managed to hire a proper nazi costume :rofl: so despite the lead prossie being on the game for years she has no idea where to get a nazi uniform ? her credibility is shot to pieces, this was just plain old prisoner / guard domination and submission the same sorta thing that is practiced in homes right across the country (3m partake in BDSM 1 in 8 of the adult population), I am not going to debate the rights and wrongs of BDSM but it is a widespread practice

 

And if Max Mosley resigns then Jean Todt (linked for years with Ferrari your biggest rivals) will almost certainly take over from him so if you think Mosley is hard on McCheaters wait till you see Todt :lol: as the saying goes "be careful what you wish for you might just get it" ;)

 

Where do you get the idea that I'm a fan of McLaren?

 

I'm guessing that you've got your tongue stuck so far up Ferrari's backside that you can't see it.

 

As a Brit, I support ALL British drivers & constructors. Hence I like Lewis Hamilton & McLaren because you have a BRITISH driver in a BRITISH car that stands a chance (although I think the Ferrari's will walk this season as they are clearly the fastest car this season) of winning the World Title.

 

As for Jean Todt taking over, I could not care. All I care about in this context is the breath taking hypocrisy of Max Mosley hanging onto a job, when any other person in that position of authority should have already quit over. That is why opinion polls up down the web show support for Max Mosley maintaining his position standing at just between 10-20%. In short the vast majority of the public who give a toss about this think he should do the decent thing and resign. The longer he stays in his job, he will only continue to soil his reputation whilst being a figure of fun to be ridiculed within the media.

Another piece of cheating from Hamilton :angry:

 

Cut right across a run off area and made up several places after his incident with Alonso, turned sharp left and went right across run off back onto the track causing Button to spin, cheat cheat cheat

 

Good on Alonso :yahoo: :w00t: :lol:

Edited April 6, 200817 yr by Tim Barnes

Are you watching the same race as I am?

 

Utter rubbish. Without a front wing you don't have the same control, people run off all the time without full control. And when he did that he was right behind Fernando, when he came back on the track he was further behind. I really don't know how your mind works for you to come out with such biased, utter drivel.

 

And yes, good on Alonso for possibly cheating... :manson: It will be very interesting to look at his telemetry.

Edited April 6, 200817 yr by RabbitFurCoat

Are you watching the same race as I am?

 

Utter rubbish. Without a front wing you don't have the same control, people run off all the time without full control. And when he did that he was right behind Fernando, when he came back on the track he was further behind. I really don't know how your mind works for you to come out with such biased, utter drivel.

 

And yes, good on Alonso for possibly cheating... :manson: It will be very interesting to look at his telemetry.

 

he didnt miss a corner and go straight on it was a tactical move to turn left, he should have just stayed on the track and if he 22nd at the end there thats just tough, the rules are if you gain places on track by cutting off the track then you have to let them through again so Hamilton should have done that

 

I doubt Alonso did that deliberately as his car is damaged too, Lewis just got too close

Edited April 6, 200817 yr by Tim Barnes

As if my hatred for Alonso grows even more <_< Bloody cheat! :angry:

Its the responsibility of the driver behind not to be too close

 

If that had occured on the M25 it would be Hamilton losing his no claims

 

I blame Hamilton for being too close same as I blamed Schumi for Spa 98 and Monaco with Montoya

 

 

1)Alonso had a c**p exit out of the previous corner

 

2) Hamilton had a very good run out of the previous corner

 

3) Alonso was being very defensive and tried to block by moving to the inside

 

4) Hamilton kept his foot on the throttle even though he was closing in very rapidly

 

5) Hamilton is unable to find a path around Alonso proceeds to drive up the rear of him because of the differing corner exit speeds from the previous corner

 

Hamilton's fault

 

Of course the Hamilton fans will come up with crazed conspiracy theories but Alonso done nothing wrong

 

 

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/543329/img/543329.gif

Edited April 6, 200817 yr by Tim Barnes

How do you know that? Have you seen the telemerty from his car then? If you have would you care to share it with the rest of us so you can actually prove you're right. I'm not saying either way until it's been proven, it wouldn't surprise me if Alonso had lifted/braked but until there is actually proof I won't be fooled either way. As for not being too close to other cars, how the f*** are you supposed to overtake then?

 

Looking at that video, it looks as if neither driver is blameless, Alonso looks to move across to the left just before the impact to defend despite it looking like Lewis would have the line to possibly overtake into the next corner. Unless the FIA deem otherwise I'd say it looks like a racing incident where both drivers are at fualt.