... To stop the UK sending $h!t to eurovison?

It needs big stars with big songs. There were plenty of Brits with great songs in the charts last year - but no-one will do Eurovision because it's perceived as too cheesy. We used to send big names like Cliff, Lulu, Sandie - now we send has-beens and never-weres.

Edited March 1, 200817 yr by 45cat

Internal selection. Had the BBC just gone ahead and sent Cyndi last year and The Revelations/Michelle Gayle/Simona Armstrong this year, we'd be doing far better. -_-

Internal selection. Had the BBC just gone ahead and sent Cyndi last year and The Revelations/Michelle Gayle/Simona Armstrong this year, we'd be doing far better. -_-

 

I don't think the BBC would be any better at selection. They try too hard to pick a eurovision song (i.e. cheesy) instead of a great pop song. There's actually no difference but the BBC don't seem to understand this. They're all too post-modernist and tongue in cheek at the Beeb.

Ban X-Factor rejects, and take a chance on something different and new - and no ballads either!

I actually wonder if we shouldn't go back to a very old idea - pre-select one big artist and have them perform all the songs - that way it's only about the song and not all the flim-flam that surrounds it. Just a thought.

stop letting the british public vote for 'the best'.... the public have no fcukin idea... thats been the case ever since olivia newton john complained that the public wanted a c**p song back in 74.

 

the public have NO IDEA...

stop letting the british public vote for 'the best'.... the public have no fcukin idea... thats been the case ever since olivia newton john complained that the public wanted a c**p song back in 74.

 

the public have NO IDEA...

 

Agrees 100%, the public has no taste.

 

and no ballads either!

 

not even Jessica Garlick standard? :wub:

Ballads can be good. Cyndi anyone? :(

 

Cyndi's new song is f***ing gorgeous btw. :wub:

(I've always said), move it to something like ITV, where it's watched by a more (younger isn't the word is it?) "hip" audience, or let T4 take over and do it. At least that way <-- we might end up with an original band or something.

not even Jessica Garlick standard? :wub:

 

 

Ballads can be good. Cyndi anyone? :(

 

Cyndi's new song is f***ing gorgeous btw. :wub:

Those are allowable ballads :lol:

A - Ban the f***ing British public from voting

B - Fire Terry Wogan

C - Get rid of second-chances (e.g. wildcards) - if they weren't good enough to beat their opponent, they aren't good enough for Eurovision

D - Internal selection

E - Give it to f***ing ITV!

F - Put me/David/Gooddelta/anybody with a clue whatsoever about Eurovision in charge of the UK preselection :smoke:

 

All of these = a decent result once in a while? (sm)

(I've always said), move it to something like ITV, where it's watched by a more (younger isn't the word is it?) "hip" audience, or let T4 take over and do it. At least that way <-- we might end up with an original band or something.

ITV would do the best job. They'd pay $h!t loads to get a decent artist tbh! Not sure if they'd fancy funding the ESC like the BBC do though, but then I guess they'd get money from sponsorships and all that so they wouldn't have to pay as much. T4/C4 couldn't afford it at all. And thank God. We'd be sending indie stuff year after year, which is destined for failure in Europe!

F - Put me/David/Gooddelta/anybody with a clue whatsoever about Eurovision in charge of the UK preselection :smoke:

 

On that point I agree :kink:

 

Oh yes, and G - ban anybody who flopped in a talent show - if they aren't good enough for Britain, they aren't good enough for Europe

 

SEND THE REVELATIONS OR MICHELLE GAYLE WHILE YOU STILL CAN :(

Yannno, I actually agree about ITV - would give it the kick up the ass it sorely needs.

Yannno, I actually agree about ITV - would give it the kick up the ass it sorely needs.

 

 

The problem with ITV is the ad breaks during the voting procedure

The ads would only happen when the rest of Europe has them though. And that's once after 12 songs, twice in the interval and twice (?) in the voting.

Ads would break it up nicely I think, and as David said, its what the rest of Europe have....