F1 involves huge amounts of SKILL, speeds up to 220mph on straights, incredible levels of fitness, on some tracks a driver can lose 10kilos of body weight in a race through sweat, incredible levels of upper body strength as some corners are 4G and would snap the neck of the average man in the street, they also need incredible bravery given the number that have died over the years

 

There's one way to settle whether a F1 driver is any good - have the same rules as in the A1 Grand Prix: everyone has the same design for the cars, therefore meaning no one team (or countries, as they are in A1GP) can have a better car than the others, therefore relying on the driver's skill.

There's one way to settle whether a F1 driver is any good - have the same rules as in the A1 Grand Prix: everyone has the same design for the cars, therefore meaning no one team (or countries, as they are in A1GP) can have a better car than the others, therefore relying on the driver's skill.

 

If you do that then it ceases to be F1 - the pinnacle of motor racing.

Whilst it would it'd be a hell of a lot more boring though. Well it'll never happen anyway...

There's one way to settle whether a F1 driver is any good - have the same rules as in the A1 Grand Prix: everyone has the same design for the cars, therefore meaning no one team (or countries, as they are in A1GP) can have a better car than the others, therefore relying on the driver's skill.

and watch ever manufacturer go byebye.

 

thats over half the teams instantly

Sports Personality of The Year 2008

 

Betfair.com Odds

 

Rebecca Adlington Evens Fav

Lewis Hamiton 12/5

Chris Hoy 7/2

Joe Calzaghe 80/1

Andrew Murray 200/1

 

500/1 Bar

If you make F1 the rules of A1GP, then it is no longer F1, it is A1GP. F1 is the, as TIP said, pinnacle of motor racing.

When is this anyway?

 

I'd want Rebecca Adlington to win.. But it will be Lewis Hamilton I think.

It's on Sunday night. I don't think the voting is open yet and not really sure where they get the odds from.

 

I'm hoping Hamilton's Swiss adventures will turn people against him. Money-grabbing t***.

It's on Sunday night. I don't think the voting is open yet and not really sure where they get the odds from.

 

I'm hoping Hamilton's Swiss adventures will turn people against him. Money-grabbing t***.

 

I can't stand the prick but he is more deserving of the award than all these people who won't be heard of for another 4 years

 

I will be voting for Calzaghe though, yet again proved he is the greatest boxer this nation has produced

It's on Sunday night. I don't think the voting is open yet and not really sure where they get the odds from.

 

I'm hoping Hamilton's Swiss adventures will turn people against him. Money-grabbing t***.

 

Oh another Daily Mail readewr I see.

 

For the record Lewis came out this week and said in his opinion Nicola Cooke deserves the award for being the first person (male or female) ever to win the Cycling Road Race World Championship & the Olympic Title in the same year.

 

I find it ironic Rebecca Adlington is favourite to win considering before the Olympics she failed to win the World Short-Course Championship or the European Championships. At least Chris Hoy dominated his sport all year. Whilst Joe Calzaghe is a legend and deservedly won last year, so someone else deserves the award this year.

 

 

 

I'm hoping Hamilton's Swiss adventures will turn people against him. Money-grabbing t***.

 

So you think it is OK for the preious World Champions Kimi Raikkonen & (his new internet computer gaming friend!!! (according to his PCD girlfriend)) Fernando Alonso to live in Switzerland, but not Lewis Hamilton?

 

For the sake of saving a minimum £6 million (& that is before all the extra sponsorship) per year I know where I would rather live between my local home town in England & the picturesque Montreaux.

 

And I bet 90%+ of people would make the same decision.

:hithead:

Edited December 11, 200816 yr by richie

I can't stand the prick but he is more deserving of the award than all these people who won't be heard of for another 4 years

 

so f1 gets more airtime then swimming, ok its more entertaining to watch (although that could be untrue), it gets more money, but it doesnt detract from the acheivement, the PERSONAL ACHEIVEMENT, that rebecca adlington has made.

 

im not bothered that she 'peaked' at the olympics, THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT!!!! :lol: or how she could have got the world record in a 'fast pool' ??? how tf does THAT work? how can a pool be 'fast'?

 

the facts are that she won twice, against the odds, and broke 2 world records, and she is just a girl from a northern town with precious little support from anyone else, unlike lewis hammilton who is merely a figurehead for a team backed by millions of pounds....

:hithead:

 

i prefered you original response! ;) lol

Interesting stuff here. I hate the fact Formula 1 is even considered a sport. There's little notable athletic achievement, constant corruption claims and, as Martin Prince once put it best in The Simpsons, the driver is essentially ballast. Yet F1 drivers make up a considerable percentage of former winners...even in Olympic years. What an anti-climax it was when Linford Christie and Sally Gunnell had to flank the most boring man in the world in 1992 because their considerably more impressive achievements split the vote.

 

100% agreed m8! especially the emboldend part

im not bothered that she 'peaked' at the olympics, THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT!!!! :lol: or how she could have got the world record in a 'fast pool' ??? how tf does THAT work? how can a pool be 'fast'?

 

Becuase pools now (especially the one used for the Beijing Olympics) are built to help the swimmers, they have wider lanes and greater protection from the splash or waves the other swimmers create, it's almost as if they're swimming in their own pool now compared to years before. Not to mention the fact that swimmers now swim in about 90% lycra, 10% skin. It used to be the other way around!

 

Yes, what Adlington did was great and I would put her ahead of Hamilton. But no way ahead of Hoy, Cooke or Calzaghe. Not a chance!

 

I can't stand the prick but he is more deserving of the award than all these people who won't be heard of for another 4 years

 

At least they'll be more deserving than 2001's winner - David Beckham, who only got it 'cos he scored the goal that meant England drew qualified for the 2002 World Cup (btw, they didn't even win the game - against the then not-so-good Greece, they could only manage a 2-2 draw).

At least they'll be more deserving than 2001's winner - David Beckham, who only got it 'cos he scored the goal that meant England drew qualified for the 2002 World Cup (btw, they didn't even win the game - against the then not-so-good Greece, they could only manage a 2-2 draw).

 

Beckham had had a good 2001 though. Especially considering how much everyone hated him after 1998, and that goal was some goal too! In the last kick of the game too iirc.

What else happened in 2001 though?

 

We weren't good at rugby then, no olympics, we were c**p at cricket, no one in the F1!

Edited December 11, 200816 yr by RabbitFurCoat