As has been said many times in this thread........ "If it ain't broke don't fix it"

With that attitude, the whole world would be at a standstill, and all prejudice suffered and tolerated not challenged and changed <_>

With that attitude, the whole world would be at a standstill, and all prejudice suffered and tolerated not challenged and changed <_<

 

It is not about racial prejudice, I wish him well as an actor and wish him every success but he is not suitable for THIS role

 

I am not Nick Griffin I am not a member of the Ku Klux Klan I am simply objecting to his appointment as Dr Who has been going for near on 50 years being played by a white male, generations have grow up with white Dr Who's so there is no need to change that, 50 years of history is being rewritten for the sake of meeting quotas and that is not right

 

If there were no suitable white actors for the role then that would be different but we have the excellent Robert Carlyle offering his services as Dr Who, I think Alan Rickman would make an excellent Dr Who for example then there is Sean Pertwee and that is to name but 3

 

 

It is not about racial prejudice, I wish him well as an actor and wish him every success but he is not suitable for THIS role

 

I am not Nick Griffin I am not a member of the Ku Klux Klan I am simply objecting to his appointment as Dr Who has been going for near on 50 years being played by a white male, generations have grow up with white Dr Who's so there is no need to change that, 50 years of history is being rewritten for the sake of meeting quotas and that is not right

 

If there were no suitable white actors for the role then that would be different but we have the excellent Robert Carlyle offering his services as Dr Who, I think Alan Rickman would make an excellent Dr Who for example then there is Sean Pertwee and that is to name but 3

You are only presuming it is about political correctness and these 'quotas'. Have you actually considered that it may be because the producers think he is the best actor for the role?

has this even been confirmed yet?

ooooo he is the hot guy in surviors! I hope it's him. HOT HOT HOT! :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

SEXY HOTNESS!!!

You are only presuming it is about political correctness and these 'quotas'. Have you actually considered that it may be because the producers think he is the best actor for the role?

 

I don't work on the Dr Who production team so have no hard evidence but it is my OPINION on the available circumstantial facts that this is political correctness/quotas as opposed to any great public demand for a black man to become Dr Who, opinions are what message boards and debate is driven by, this board would be very dull if everyone just commented on hard evidence, I was not present in Dallas 1963 on a grassy knoll so can't confirm that Kennedy was shot from one but that does not mean I can't give my opinion on the subject B)

You are only presuming it is about political correctness and these 'quotas'. Have you actually considered that it may be because the producers think he is the best actor for the role?

 

.... have you considered that it might well be about 'quotas'? would that be right IF the only reason he got the job was because he was not only a good enough actor, but black? :) because thats what we believe has probably gone off here, changing the race of a role simply to comply.

 

im dead against 'positive discrimination' its simply odeous, and creates more bad feeling then it 'solves'.

I don't work on the Dr Who production team so have no hard evidence but it is my OPINION on the available circumstantial facts that this is political correctness/quotas as opposed to any great public demand for a black man to become Dr Who, opinions are what message boards and debate is driven by, this board would be very dull if everyone just commented on hard evidence, I was not present in Dallas 1963 on a grassy knoll so can't confirm that Kennedy was shot from one but that does not mean I can't give my opinion on the subject B)

 

 

.... have you considered that it might well be about 'quotas'? would that be right IF the only reason he got the job was because he was not only a good enough actor, but black? :) because thats what we believe has probably gone off here, changing the race of a role simply to comply.

 

im dead against 'positive discrimination' its simply odeous, and creates more bad feeling then it 'solves'.

IF (and I repeat IF) it is all about quotas, then I think it is a shame that a talented actor is given a role because of his skin colour, not his acting talent.

 

Of course, it is not even been confirmed that he is the next Dr Who, so we could be arguing over nothing!

IF (and I repeat IF) it is all about quotas, then I think it is a shame that a talented actor is given a role because of his skin colour, not his acting talent.

 

Of course, it is not even been confirmed that he is the next Dr Who, so we could be arguing over nothing!

 

exactly matt :)

 

 

A very good friend of mine has directed many episodes of Dr Who and is now directing the next Torchwood series... I'll ask some questions ;)

... anyway, whats all this c**p about him being 'the best actor for the role'?... WHO SAYS? exactly how many others were in the frame? until this thread his name wasnt even mentioned as a candidate! with the likes of sean pertwee and robert carlisle amongst others being touted...

 

IF the post was advertised, and IF he IS chosen from the multitude of candidates from whatever ethnic background and his colour didnt influence the interviewers choince in any way then that argument would hold water ....

 

personally id like to see stephen fry in the role! :P

Paterson Joseph might be black, but that isn't the reason I'm rather put off by the idea of him becoming the Doctor. I love Doctor Who and it's spin offs at the moment, but that's because I find the Actors/ Actresses great. However, I had seen Christopher Eccleston in something before he got the role of Doctor Who and found him a good actor, then saw David Tennant in Blackpool and Casanova and found him brilliant before being excited about him getting the role! Paterson Joseph - seen him in a couple of things, including Survivors on at the moment and I'm not keen on him. It could be scripts, it could be his character but I just am not seeing the same signs of him being great in the role that I've seen from Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant in particular in the past. As much as I've enjoyed Doctor Who since it's comeback in 2005 and have loved Steven Moffats writing, I don't think I'll enjoy it the same - but he could surprise me. I have really warmed to the way David Tennant has acted in the role and know how different the next actor will have to play it too though so I might not enjoy it as much ever again, to be honest.

 

That is if he is cast, he may not be. There are actors I've seen on TV that I'd like in the role but I'm one of those people who only know faces and not names with most actors!

LOL, Johnson from Peep Show.

^^ That's where I recognise him from!!!

 

When I saw him in Survivors I knew I'd seen him somewhere else!

Oh and I think he'd make a great Doctor Who -_-

With that attitude, the whole world would be at a standstill, and all prejudice suffered and tolerated not challenged and changed <_<

 

Exactly, and no one would actually TRY the idea of having a Black or a Female Doctor because some bunch of moaning minnies will come along and make a fuss over "PC", and nothing will ever change...... I mean, sorry, but someone tried out the ideas of having a Black actor and a female actor lead 'Deep Space 9' and 'Voyager', two of the "Star Trek" spin-off shows, and it turned out to be very successful, each show spanning about five or six seasons each , before coming to NATURAL conclusions (ie, not being pulled off air or cancelled like "Enterprise" was, which, funnily enough, had a white, male actor as the lead :lol: ).

 

Writers and creators (especially when they are a new team, and are trying to put their own individual stamp on things...) have to be bold and come up with new and challenging ideas and to hell with what the bloody Sad Anorak Brigade thinks..... :rolleyes:

you've obviously not got the 'gist' of Dr Who in the 40-odd years it's been on, have you?

 

The Doctor isn't any one person as such - he can be anyone - black, white, male, female..... all the character is is a name - not a person.

 

Did you kick up a fuss when, was it Peter Davison, became Doctor...and he didn't wear a scarf, have wild ringlet-y hair and talk in a booming voice? Did you create a fuss when Jon Pertwee left....only to be replaced with aforementioned scarf-wearing loon, who was minus the velvet jackets, silver hair and upper-crust lisp?

 

And Rob - what are you doing? :huh: You're totally ruining your reputation on this site - first with your frankly puerile, backward and ludicrous statements on the Proposition 8 thread in the Perspectives section and now here with outdated, racist tripe about, gasp, the BBC daring to cast an actor who isn't white into an acting role. Political correctness? Not at all - I happen to think a black actor is a great idea - my gripe is the actor they've chosen isn't, in my view, a very good actor, regardless of his colour.

 

I think it was the right time to have a female Doctor, myself. Maybe someone like Tilda Swinton, who has an otherworldly quality to her - and who excels in every role I've ever seen her in.

 

Hear Hear Russ... Totally agree with this post....

 

And, Tilda Swinton as The Doctor... My, that is TRULY inspired..... She is a great Oscar and BAFTA-winning actress (yeah, try and make out that this one would be "PC" then Rob and Craig...) and would be perfect, in the role in so many ways, like you say, an otherworldy quality, and she's VERY androgynous as well, kind of does that whole "gender bender" thing, quite boyish in her looks, a perfect compromise in so many ways... Did you see her as Archangel Gabriel in the "Constantine" film? She was about the only thing of quality in that entire piece of cr@p film..... :lol:

 

Yes, I LIKE that idea. Much..... :)

 

fcuk off!!! YOUD have been the first politically correct idiot creating a stink if an ethnic person was portrayed as a 'mad man' <_<

 

Wot...? You mean like the story about the extremely mentally distubed black rapist in "Cracker"....? Great storyline.... No problems at all, because the writing was fantastic, not exploitative, and managed to portray its "monster" as being a three-dimensional and complex character as opposed to a mindless, drooling idiot, but hey, that's Jimmy McGovern for you, top screenwriter..... So, how about you just stop talking utter bollocks about my supposed "political correctness" mate..... :rolleyes:

you've obviously not got the 'gist' of Dr Who in the 40-odd years it's been on, have you?

 

The Doctor isn't any one person as such - he can be anyone - black, white, male, female..... all the character is is a name - not a person.

 

Did you kick up a fuss when, was it Peter Davison, became Doctor...and he didn't wear a scarf, have wild ringlet-y hair and talk in a booming voice? Did you create a fuss when Jon Pertwee left....only to be replaced with aforementioned scarf-wearing loon, who was minus the velvet jackets, silver hair and upper-crust lisp?

 

And Rob - what are you doing? :huh: You're totally ruining your reputation on this site - first with your frankly puerile, backward and ludicrous statements on the Proposition 8 thread in the Perspectives section and now here with outdated, racist tripe about, gasp, the BBC daring to cast an actor who isn't white into an acting role. Political correctness? Not at all - I happen to think a black actor is a great idea - my gripe is the actor they've chosen isn't, in my view, a very good actor, regardless of his colour.

 

I think it was the right time to have a female Doctor, myself. Maybe someone like Tilda Swinton, who has an otherworldly quality to her - and who excels in every role I've ever seen her in.

 

yawn.... i wish some people would read the thread prior to posting, that way i /we wouldnt have to repete ourselves yet again.

 

if the dr could be anything... THEN WHY HASNT HE?

 

i stopped watching when davidson became the dr, he was awful, the storylines became a complete joke and mc coy killed the character... 'kick up a fuss'? in the days before the internet, kicking up a fuss wasnt easy... you got what you were given and if you didnt like it, tough.

 

on to the personal attacks, predictable as ever <_<, just because someone has a different oppinion then you do... you are extremely intollerant of anyone whos life is different from yours, and dont claim the moral high ground... im NOT backward in my thoughts, im TOLLERANT of differing views. i couldnt give a flying fcuk what my reputation is on here, its an internet forum made up of weird strangers who i will never meet... why should i care?

Exactly, and no one would actually TRY the idea of having a Black or a Female Doctor because some bunch of moaning minnies will come along and make a fuss over "PC", and nothing will ever change...... I mean, sorry, but someone tried out the ideas of having a Black actor and a female actor lead 'Deep Space 9' and 'Voyager', two of the "Star Trek" spin-off shows, and it turned out to be very successful, each show spanning about five or six seasons each , before coming to NATURAL conclusions (ie, not being pulled off air or cancelled like "Enterprise" was, which, funnily enough, had a white, male actor as the lead :lol: ).

 

Writers and creators (especially when they are a new team, and are trying to put their own individual stamp on things...) have to be bold and come up with new and challenging ideas and to hell with what the bloody Sad Anorak Brigade thinks..... :rolleyes:

 

sometimes i think you just gob off for the sake of it...

 

what tf has star trek etc got to do with dr who?..... those sci-fi progs have ALWAYS had an international crew...so it aint changing an established role! in the name of political correctness .... pillock.

Wot...? You mean like the story about the extremely mentally distubed black rapist in "Cracker"....? Great storyline.... No problems at all, because the writing was fantastic, not exploitative, and managed to portray its "monster" as being a three-dimensional and complex character as opposed to a mindless, drooling idiot, but hey, that's Jimmy McGovern for you, top screenwriter..... So, how about you just stop talking utter bollocks about my supposed "political correctness" mate..... :rolleyes:

 

yeah... cos you arnt a politically correct animal at all are you <_<

 

you are the boards biggest anglophobe, if anyone employed the rhetoric against ethnic races the way you do against white english, youd be in uproar.

 

and one character doesnt prove your point, my point stands.