A laugh, yes, but whether people will seriously take the time to participate I don't know.

 

I do kinda like TDA and Foxy but whether I feel like voting for them is a different matter. :teresa:

This is true, although it will go to a vote once we have compiled all the ideas so I trust anything with a massively obvious shortcoming will be justified :drama:

This is true, although it will go to a vote once we have compiled all the ideas so I trust anything with a massively obvious shortcoming will be justified :drama:

I reckon a weighted poll of sorts would be needed. i.e. vote for the best and worst idea. There could be as many people who want this as people who refuse to spend hours listening to Westlife/deluded Myspace singers/live Ashlee Simpson performances.

 

I think the spin-offs should be songs that wouldn't be used in the main contest but have to be good enough to listen to. Frankmusik has shown that a good male entry can do really well so I'm not sure a male spn-off would work, it'd only dry up the good male entries for the main contest. (not that were aren't countless good male songs of course)

I still think a male spin-off would be a pretty refreshing idea, we'd get some entries other than the almost compulsory electro for males to do well ^_^

I still think a male spin-off would be a pretty refreshing idea, we'd get some entries other than the almost compulsory electro for males to do well ^_^

True, I just don't think that males are that much of a spin-off right now. Sure, it does need to be electro to do well here but I'm sure most people would send that to the spin-off anyway when they could send it to the main contest. I wouldn't be surprised to see Frankmusik back next time for XIV for example.

and as Trash said, downloading the videos is just a bit time consuming too, especially when Rontvia, Kathaldazia, Kopecka and Eledan keep changing their confirmed entries :heehee:

 

 

Better than changing underwear :kink:

Bagsy a "Worst Song" Contest. :w00t:

 

To find something so awful yet like a car crash you just have to listen to it again to believe it.

Bagsy Blackout Crew or Psychostick (Comedy Metal :blink:) :kink:

 

You can still use it in BJSC XIV! :lol: And given that February is so short, it would probably only end up putting BJSC XIV back by a week or two, as it would be in the first half of March so that it doesn't end up clashing with Eurovision in May ;)

:rofl:. February is only 3 or 2 days shorter! :lol:

 

The male spinoff won't be completely odd tbh. If February's contest is BJSCXIV or the Male Spinoff, it won't effect what i send :kink:

Edited January 17, 200916 yr by Harve

Can we please not do the spin-off thing? I just think any months we do those would drag :zzz:

 

People would still be constantly discussing their entries for the real thing anyways.

Can we please not do the spin-off thing? I just think any months we do those would drag :zzz:

 

People would still be constantly discussing their entries for the real thing anyways.

Well we do need to find a way of making it so that we only have ten contests a year, otherwise the Best Of contest would end up getting pushed further and further back...

 

And anyway, it didn't particularly damage the Best of, did it? :P

 

And Harve, it's more to do with the fact that we HAVE to have it early in March (so it doesn't end up clashing with the ESC in May) that makes February such a short month for the contest ;) Seeing as it will be a FAR more inclusive spin-off Peter, I'm inclined to disagree...

ah yes, I can't wait for the 'worst' one :heehee:

 

I think the host should be whoever comes second in XIII :o

 

I'll be in my prime if it's a worst entries contest :D

 

Judging by my last five entries :P

Edited January 18, 200916 yr by nickthenoodle

I'm really not too keen on the spin off thing - they tend to distract from the actual contest and it usually turns out that too much of a good thing ruins it all :no:

I'm really not too keen on the spin off thing - they tend to distract from the actual contest and it usually turns out that too much of a good thing ruins it all :no:

How else do you propose we fit 10 contests into a year without people baying for blood and saying they want another contest in February? :P Or fit in themed contests which have proven to be a very popular idea etc...?

why must we only have 10 contests a year then? I thought we have 11 in a year and one best of?

 

I just think that limiting the sort of songs people can enter is only going to alienate some of the participators for example if we have a male-only contest then many of the countries aren't going to want to enter as they obviously have a preference for female artists

why must we only have 10 contests a year then? I thought we have 11 in a year and one best of?

 

I just think that limiting the sort of songs people can enter is only going to alienate some of the participators for example if we have a male-only contest then many of the countries aren't going to want to enter as they obviously have a preference for female artists

We have 10 in a year due to the way the intended February cotnest was done last year, with the results ending up in March - having more than 10 contests in a year severely complicates the Best of due to the way it's done.

 

And people have a preference for female artists, but I doubt even the most ardent female lover would be able to not find a male track that they like! :P

We do not HAVE to have 10 contests a year. That's just silly talk :rolleyes:

 

Just have "X" number of contests as they naturally come and then when we reach November or whenever the appropriate time is, have the best of one....

 

If you're wanting to have one Best of every year then we may as well just make it best of 2009, 2010 etc anyways! If not just have a Best of every 10 contests. You're mixing two completely unrelated ideas

 

Just have 10 contests, best of, 10 contests, best of....who cares what time of year the best of contest falls?

Edited January 18, 200916 yr by Peter30

^ Indeedy that would be my thought

We do not HAVE to have 10 contests a year. That's just silly talk :rolleyes:

 

Just have "X" number of contests as they naturally come and then when we reach November or whenever the appropriate time is, have the best of one....

 

If you're wanting to have one Best of every year then we may as well just make it best of 2009, 2010 etc anyways! If not just have a Best of every 10 contests. You're mixing two completely unrelated ideas

 

Just have 10 contests, best of, 10 contests, best of....who cares what time of year the best of contest falls?

For each Best of, we do NEED it to be 10 contests otherwise qualification etc. as it currently is is severely complicated - although I suppose it is possible to have two semi-finals of 30 entrants (and the problem with 11 contests a year is that it leads to a disparity in semi-finals - you will always have an odd number of overall nominations, so one semi would have to have one more entrant than the other, making the competition just a tad unfair for the lessened qualification berths), two semi-finals of 25 entrants with 10 qualifiers is IMO preferable. 11/12 contests would also increase the number of autoqualifiers, meaning that the increasing number of semi-finalists would have less qualification berths; and if we go the whole hog and scrap the semis as you suggest, it makes the problem that you picked up on that people get left out even worse :P Put simply, I can't win either way with you! :lol:

 

And the problem with the time the Best of occurs is that if we go for 12 contests a year as people would doubtless request, or even 11, it would edge back and back until within 2/3 years it ends up inevitably conflicting with Eurovision - not exactly something in my best interests! :P

For each Best of, we do NEED it to be 10 contests otherwise qualification etc. as it currently is is severely complicated - although I suppose it is possible to have two semi-finals of 30 entrants (and the problem with 11 contests a year is that it leads to a disparity in semi-finals - you will always have an odd number of overall nominations, so one semi would have to have one more entrant than the other, making the competition just a tad unfair for the lessened qualification berths), two semi-finals of 25 entrants with 10 qualifiers is IMO preferable. 11/12 contests would also increase the number of autoqualifiers, meaning that the increasing number of semi-finalists would have less qualification berths; and if we go the whole hog and scrap the semis as you suggest, it makes the problem that you picked up on that people get left out even worse :P Put simply, I can't win either way with you! :lol:

 

And the problem with the time the Best of occurs is that if we go for 12 contests a year as people would doubtless request, or even 11, it would edge back and back until within 2/3 years it ends up inevitably conflicting with Eurovision - not exactly something in my best interests! :P

 

OK....I totally understand not having 11/12 contests incorporated into the Best of. The format does work, and it would be complicated to have too many countries.

 

But I really don't see the problem with just having it after 10 contests. OK so it would creep back by a few weeks each year, but we'd be having a break for Eurovision regardless of whether it was a normal contest of the best of. Either way it wouldn't be for 4-5 years. Who knows where the contest will be then!

 

Besides if we have 10 contests, a best of, a 2 week break for Christmas and a 2 week break for Eurovision, I think that is our 12 months made up anyways

 

In short, ditch spin-offs :P

Edited January 18, 200916 yr by Peter30

OK....I totally understand not having 11/12 contests incorporated into the Best of. The format does work, and it would be complicated to have too many countries.

 

But I really don't see the problem with just having it after 10 contests. OK so it would creep back by a few weeks each year, but we'd be having a break for Eurovision regardless of whether it was a normal contest of the best of. Either way it wouldn't be for 4-5 years. Who knows where the contest will be then!

 

Besides if we have 10 contests, a best of, a 2 week break for Christmas and a 2 week break for Eurovision, I think that is our 12 months made up anyways

 

In short, ditch spin-offs :P

The problem is, we don't have a break for Eurovision - it's quite likely that the main reason this contest is what it is today was that we didn't take May off for Eurovision! :P

 

And I fail to see the massive problem people have with spin-offs? Assuming that the spin-off is in early/mid-February and BJSC XIV is in early March (with preparations in February), there will be a difference of a week at most to the normal gap in the schedule - and either way it will probably correlate exactly with the pattern last year when David had the contest in late Feb/early March! All this spin-off will be doing is filling the slightly larger gap between the two that is needed so the contest doesn't clash with Eurovision - and I'm sure people that are so terrified of the prospect of spin-offs can manage to muster an extra week's patience! :lol:

I didn't realise the spin-offs would be so short.

 

I just don't see why each year's contest pattern has to match up exactly with the previous years....there is always the possibility that a host can't do the contest on a certain weekend etc. You're binding yourself too tightly to a procedure.

 

But how would you propose the spin-off worked?

I didn't realise the spin-offs would be so short.

 

I just don't see why each year's contest pattern has to match up exactly with the previous years....there is always the possibility that a host can't do the contest on a certain weekend etc. You're binding yourself too tightly to a procedure.

 

But how would you propose the spin-off worked?

It doesn't have to match up exactly, but it has to match up to a certain area - for example, we need to fit a spin-off in between to tide people over at some point to distract them from a 3/4 week gap to adjust the BJSC so it doesn't clash with the ESC, and to me it makes sense to do it in the shortest month. We can give or take a couple of weeks if need be :P

 

The spin-off would just be a week of proposals, voting etc. after this contest finishes, followed by a week of selections and then, depending on participants:

 

If under 30 participants, go straight to a final, lasting a week

If over 30 participants, have a week and a half of a contest, with 5 days for voting in the semis and in the final

 

And then go straight into preparations for XIV afterwards (speculation etc.) with the final of XIV at some point in the first two weeks of March.