May 17, 200916 yr Disagree with everything Rob says there. Contender for worst post ever? Agreed There was some amazing songs in that final, and some great tracks missed out. I'd agree that Iceland was better than Norway, but Fairytale is epic.
May 17, 200916 yr Congrats to Jade she really sang her heart out. :heart: In fact she deserved at least 4th. I couldn't stand that Turkish entry one bit. I went to get a glass of wine while this was on. Other favourite entries were France (i have a couple of albums by Patricia Kaas), Sweden, Iceland, Estonia and Armenia Let's hope next year we don't enter that same old kind of rubbish we have from 1999 to 2008. At least the new voting system is working to a good extent.
May 17, 200916 yr Sorry Mushy but everything you post to do with Jade is pretty irrelevant now seeing as she came 5th, so it doesn't really matter if you think it's the worst Eurovision entry or not (because it blatantly isn't), we still got a fantastic result.
May 18, 200916 yr Poorest set of entries ever? :/ It's now very undeniably a song contest Mushy, and this is easily the greatest contest that we've had in a long LONG time...it's quite clear that your hatred of our entry is just down to a personal taste which you are only happy to try and demand from the rest of Europe... 'easily the greatest contest that weve had for a long time?'.... with 1 song that was a runnaway winner from vote #1?... it was a contest of 1 song, i dont regard that as 'the greatest contest for some time' at all m8. worst post? why because i dont agree with you lot that the song is good and she done well?.. nah, my post is perfectly vallied, why is it 'wrong' to expect europe NOT to follow the x factor hype circus type style of music selection? why is it wrong to support the notion that the contest is best when countries present an individual entry flavoured with the countries own musical style? what is wrong with suggesting acts like ruslana and lordi are perfect examples of what eurovision should be like? why is it wrong to suggest jades wailing is NOT what will win...oh look..it DIDNT. facts are, jade ended up points wise closer to the bottom then the top! :lol:
May 18, 200916 yr Disagree with everything Rob says there. Contender for worst post ever? ..so youd want to see a eurovision song contest dominated by wailing bitches all sounding the same in a contest devoid of any individuality and any of the countries competing culture? :huh: ?
May 18, 200916 yr Rob, you were wrong. Get over it. did we win?...... NO. so i was hardly wrong :) the only point ill conceed is that 'we' finished in the top half, which is what i said we wouldnt, but even so, points wise 'we' finished closer to the bottom then the top! :lol: statistics are great arnt they, :lol: plus 'we' cheated, we went on a mini tour promoting our track well before the contest thus giving it more airplay then most if not all of our contenders... <_<
May 18, 200916 yr Don't most countries in Europe do that? i'd hardly call promoting a song cheating. If the UK wasn't so separated from the rest of the EU then they'd probably come here as well. So she didn't win, she still came top 5. Checking wikipedia, that's our highest position since 2003, and we garned the most post since Katrina & The Waves. I don't understand how that's a failure by any means, tbh. :mellow: jades song was AWFUL, just wailing self indulgent lloyd webber pap. did she really do well?... well no. as i said SHES GOT NO CHANCE , i was right, losing to a very unremarkable norweigian track by over 200 points! ok, she finished higher in the placings then i expected, but then again she had done a mini tour promoting the track in europe! now ive not heard 1 of the others entries on our tv before the contest. .................... the best track of the night was estonia, followed by iceland, then norway. Proof reading is a useful skill to use ~ Edited May 18, 200916 yr by Kiseki
May 18, 200916 yr Everyone goes on mini-tours though Rob... well most do. The fact that 2009 was the first year we promoted ours around Europe before the contest shows just how little effort we've put in in the past.
May 18, 200916 yr Everyone goes on mini-tours though Rob... well most do. The fact that 2009 was the first year we promoted ours around Europe before the contest shows just how little effort we've put in in the past. in my day they didnt! :lol: ..... no one came here, i heard nowt on our tv, i wonder just how many others did it... tbh it smacks of desperation! LOL, so promoting is cheating now? :lol: yes! :P
May 18, 200916 yr Don't most countries in Europe do that? i'd hardly call promoting a song cheating. If the UK wasn't so separated from the rest of the EU then they'd probably come here as well. So she didn't win, she still came top 5. Checking wikipedia, that's our highest position since 2003, and we garned the most post since Katrina & The Waves. I don't understand how that's a failure by any means, tbh. :mellow: Proof reading is a useful skill to use ~ i said that the norweigian track was 'unremarkable' , not rubbish/no good/crap. it was ok but did it really deserve to win by such a huge margin? was it really THAT much better then the rest? you see, this is why in the cold light of day that i have trouble believing (actually i dont) the hype surrounding this years contest by people suggesting it was the best contest for years... surely if there was a plethera of 'good' tracks the contest would be much closer, THAT imho is the best contest to have, but 1 runnaway winner is evidence that the standard was poor. but russia did put on a decent show, no criticism there.
May 18, 200916 yr you see, this is why in the cold light of day that i have trouble believing (actually i dont) the hype surrounding this years contest by people suggesting it was the best contest for years... surely if there was a plethera of 'good' tracks the contest would be much closer, THAT imho is the best contest to have, but 1 runnaway winner is evidence that the standard was poor. but russia did put on a decent show, no criticism there. It was the highest quality of general songs in the final for years, the fact that there was a runaway winner doesn't necessarily suggest the rest was crap! :P
May 18, 200916 yr i said that the norweigian track was 'unremarkable' , not rubbish/no good/crap. it was ok but did it really deserve to win by such a huge margin? was it really THAT much better then the rest? you see, this is why in the cold light of day that i have trouble believing (actually i dont) the hype surrounding this years contest by people suggesting it was the best contest for years... surely if there was a plethera of 'good' tracks the contest would be much closer, THAT imho is the best contest to have, but 1 runnaway winner is evidence that the standard was poor. but russia did put on a decent show, no criticism there. Rob. By your standards the posts you have made regarding Eurovision are embarrassing. Firstly, let's look at your pathetic comments regarding the UK entry. Before the competition you said our entry would do badly predicting it would finish in the bottom six and definitely the bottom half of the table. Yet our entry finished 5th out of 25 Finalists. That is in the top 20% of the acts. Yet afterwards you still claim that the UK did poorly. In the previous years (2003 - 2008) the UK scored: 0 - 29 - 18 - 25 - 19 - 14. In 2009 the UK scored 173 Points. That is six times more points than in any of the previous six years (and 68 more points than the previous six years put together!). Yet you still call the result a failure. :rolleyes: Still you confidentally predict that Jade Ewen will sink without trace. But hang on a minute, this is the same Jade Ewen who has signed an international record deal with Geffen Records and Polydor in the UK and has been working with songwriters/producers Gary Barlow (Take That, Blue, Delta Goodrem), Guy Chambers (Robbie Williams, Beverley Knight, Eros Ramazzottii, Melanie C), Eg White (Will Young, Natalie Imbruglia, James Morrison, Daniel Merriweather), Cutfather (Pussycat Dolls, Jordin Sparks, Kylie Minogue) & Kerry "Krucial" Brothers (Alicia Keys, Angie Stone, Nas, Keyshia Cole) with an album due for release in September preceded by a single (hopefully the brilliant "Ruthless" :heart: ). Next onto your criticism of Graham Norton and the interest in the Eurovision Song Contest. Firstly, Graham Norton has got near universal praise for his first attempt replacing Terry Wogan. Not least for his preparation and attention to detail. Unlike the BBC's previous ESC commentator who flew in on the Friday just in time for the final, Graham was in Russia in time for both Semi Finals, whilst he prepared notes on all the finalists explaining their background and popularity in their native & neighbouring countries. This was something that Terry Wogan missed out when he completely failed to mention in 2007 that the eventual winner Serbian artist Marija Šerifović had already had #1s in 9 different countries selling 9 million records before the contest; or in 2008 the Russian winner Dima Bilan had already had #1s in 7 different countries selling 18 million records before the contest. Little wonder the official Eurovision Song Contest organisers praised his performance, and the change of the BBC's attitude towards the competition. Unless you think getting an artist who has starred in a West End Musical (The Lion King) with a song written by a composer whose musicals have been watched by over 350,000,000 paying customers and musical soundtracks have sold over 60,000,000 records collaborating with an American songwriter whose composition's have sold over 75,000,000 singles/downloads worldwide is not as good as a TV reality talent show loser and former binman without a record contract, or the year before an old defunct 3rd rate Steps (Deuce were second rate) with a lead singer famous for hosting late night gambling shows is better. Tellingly, Graham Norton's interest of the ESC was matched by the UK's public gaining an average 7.8 million viewers (34.9%), which was up 700,000 on last year and more importantly the highest percentage share since 1999 in the UK. Whilst viewing figures all across Europe were up (13%) on the previous year resulting in the 2009 ESC being the most watched contest of all-time. As for it being a poor Eurovision Song Contest. :rofl: In 1974, the year which Eurovision fans regard as the greatest ever contest, resulting in 4 songs from the contest charting in the UK Top 40 charts. This contest was won by Abba's Waterloo which won by a very large margin (one third more points ahead of the second placed song), and nearly double the points of the third placed song. Therefore pretty similar to 2009, or do you think that makes the 1974 contest poor as a result? Whilst currently on iTunes Alexander Rybak is #3 and is very likely to debut in that position on the UK chart on Sunday becoming the highest charting non UK ESC winner since Johnny Logan in 1987. He is also expected to top singles charts around the world after his record-breaking Eurovision success last weekend. The 23-year-old Norwegian singer's self-penned track 'Fairytale' has shot to the top of download charts across Europe two days after securing the most Eurovision votes in the competition's history. The song is in pole position on iTunes in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Ireland, Luxembourg, Norway and Sweden and is in the top five in the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, France, Austria and Portugal. Rybak's popularity has extended beyond Europe, with 'Fairytale' at number 39 on Australia's iTunes. The song is also Top 20 in New Zealand, Philippines, Japan and South Korea. In stark contrast the 2008 winner did not chart in the UK (the same as the 2007 winner) and did not go Top20 in any Western European country. Whilst several other Eurovision songs are doing very well on ITunes throughout Europe. Just looking at the UK iTunes chart and you have seven other non UK ESC songs in the Top 100, with the runner up from Iceland well inside the Top 40 and a serious prospect of being a Top 40 hit on Sunday. In short a "plethera of good tracks" in the competition. As for cheating going on a mini tour. :rofl: I mean isn't it outrageous that Jade Ewen went on touring around other European nations taking the contest seriously. I mean just because most of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia send their equivalents of Will Young, Take That, Girls Aloud, Coldplay, Leona Lewis who then when selected to represent their nation go on promo tours throughout Europe to drum up support for the contest does not mean we have to send some hopeless reject who never was any good to the contest does it? Yet throughout the last decade that was exactly what the UK did. Yet we (Terry Wogan and co) arrogantly expect ourselves to finish in the Top 10 each year even though we were treating the contest with contempt. This year the UK & France took it as seriously as a lot of other European nations and both gained their best results in 7 years. In short the UK's attitude to the ESC has been like sending Northampton Town to the European's Champions League and then expecting them to beat the likes of AC Milan, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, etc. The moral of this post is, if ever you did yourself into a hole, the best thing to do is own up ....... and not carry on digging. :lol:
May 18, 200916 yr Post of the Year :winner: By the way... an album due for release in September preceded by a single (hopefully the brilliant "Ruthless" :heart: ). Where did get the info? I wanna hear Ruthless...
May 18, 200916 yr I agree, a FANTASTIC post tip! Ruthless is on Jade's myspace page, Tom :) www.myspace.com/jadeewenofficial
May 18, 200916 yr I keep shuddering to think what might have happened had The Twins won 'Your Country Needs You' I reckon bottom five would have been a near certainty yet again :puke:
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