February 17, 200916 yr He's not a prat. He has an opinion, as do the rest of us. I'm not taking sides here, purely because this discussion has turned into a f***ing toddler's slap fight, but I don't see Chris going around throwing the insults at any of you. Your posts are degrading your own intelligence. As are some other people in here who can't handle opinions. then he should post intelligent responses... he claims accedemic qualifications but time and time again he posts ridiculous comment which have little or no thought behind them. as a worker and tax payer i object most strongly to the idle bstrds he seems to want to give MORE of MY money too! it ok for him, hes a scrounger himself, he doesnt have to pay for his ludicrous suggestions, I DO. :angry: its all ok to give away other peoples money! so im quite justified in calling him a prat. post opinions by all means, but have the balls to be able to support the views you hold because if they dont stand the test of scrutiny then they are nothing more then hot air and will recieve the contempt they deserve.
February 17, 200916 yr Well, you're not justified at all. Chris isn't implementing these laws. You could swear that you are being forced to pay these proposed changes, when you're not. He's just giving his take like the rest of us. Did you know your money is funding the war in Iraq? And it's paying for the operation of the government who screw you over every year. It's also funding unemployment benefits. I'd prefer my money to go to the unemployed who'll most likely keep the money in the country, rather than it being used to kill innocent people in Iraq for no reason. :rolleyes:
February 17, 200916 yr Well, you're not justified at all. Chris isn't implementing these laws. You could swear that you are being forced to pay these proposed changes, when you're not. He's just giving his take like the rest of us. Did you know your money is funding the war in Iraq? And it's paying for the operation of the government who screw you over every year. It's also funding unemployment benefits. I'd prefer my money to go to the unemployed who'll most likely keep the money in the country, rather than it being used to kill innocent people in Iraq for no reason. :rolleyes: I think you'll find that both Rob and myself are actually opposed to the Iraq war mate..... And you totally miss the point... The Welfare system was set up to support people temporarily in times of need, if they lost jobs, etc, and to support the genuinely sick and disabled, not to fund the lifestyles of a bunch of fukkin' bone idle chav scum like Alfie and Chantelle's families or to pay for these maggots to drop litters of feral brats who have no fukkin' self-control... This is NOT what Bevin, Beveridge or the architects of the Welfare state ever intended, and it is simply not good enough to sit there and make excuses for it, it does society no good whatsoever to allow this situation to continue, and it does these people themselves no good either, it actually creates an underclass who have no hopes, no aspirations, no prospects..... I said it before and I'll say it again, it suits the ruling elites to have an underclass who are utterly pig-sh!t ignorant, totally apathetic, and whose entire purpose is to breed and preferably die young, such people do not challenge the status quo, they do not challenge the Govt because they're to apathetic and ignorant to give a sh!t, they exist on a diet of Junk Food, Reality TV, Trisha, Eastenders, Corrie and Tabloid newspapers; they have nothing to say, nothing to contribute, they're just happy to exist in their totally ignorant, puerile state scrounging off the dole and contributing nothing to society but feral children and crime statistics.... This is not living mate, this is merely existing.... If you actually thought about it in these terms, then you should be angry about it.... At the end of the day, what these people need is "tough love", sorry, but things have just gone too far now in our society for us to continue to mollycoddle these people with well-meaning, but ultimately useless middle-class liberal PC bullsh!t; and let's face it, it's the fukkin' middle classes that would probably lose out the most if the working classes actually re-discovered their true power and potential, so no surprises for guessing who it is that's keeping these people down in the first fukkin place...... :rolleyes: A well-educated, clued-in and politically active Working Class coming together is what the ruling elites fear the most....
February 17, 200916 yr You may be against the war, but your money is still being used to fund it. It's not good. The system is a shambles, but only the government can change that, and guess who funds the government operations? The tax payer. It's a horrible circle, unfortunately. But until the British people stop bending over, it's never going to change. I'm in no way defending people who sponge off your tax. But if I could choose between funding sponges and funding the killing of innocent civilians, then I'll pick the sponges, no matter how much I hate it. The welfare system should be brought back to what it was intended for, but that's never going to happen if people don't do anything about it. The Government created this mess by approving dole applications. They should clean it up, but I doubt that'll ever happen.
February 17, 200916 yr Well, you're not justified at all. Chris isn't implementing these laws. You could swear that you are being forced to pay these proposed changes, when you're not. He's just giving his take like the rest of us. Did you know your money is funding the war in Iraq? And it's paying for the operation of the government who screw you over every year. It's also funding unemployment benefits. I'd prefer my money to go to the unemployed who'll most likely keep the money in the country, rather than it being used to kill innocent people in Iraq for no reason. :rolleyes: makes no difference, he might not be implementing the laws HE (not the government) proposes ! but he expects US the tax paying working man too! is my money really funding the iraq war? gosh i never knew that! <_< <_< <_< as it happens i object to that too!
February 17, 200916 yr You may be against the war, but your money is still being used to fund it. It's not good. The system is a shambles, but only the government can change that, and guess who funds the government operations? The tax payer. It's a horrible circle, unfortunately. But until the British people stop bending over, it's never going to change. I'm in no way defending people who sponge off your tax. But if I could choose between funding sponges and funding the killing of innocent civilians, then I'll pick the sponges, no matter how much I hate it. The welfare system should be brought back to what it was intended for, but that's never going to happen if people don't do anything about it. The Government created this mess by approving dole applications. They should clean it up, but I doubt that'll ever happen. you say all of that but supports crazychris's idiotic notion that he wants to give these spongers MORE of OUR money! OUR MONEY NOT HIS... that point is totally indefensible.
February 17, 200916 yr I'm not defending Chris. I never was. I was just pointing out that your money is being wasted on something far more insane ie. the war in Iraq. Funding sponges should be the least of your worries.
February 17, 200916 yr "Dennis, who has fathered nine kids, told how he was “gobsmacked” when he discovered Alfie was to be a dad, too" Hmm..
February 17, 200916 yr then he should post intelligent responses... he claims accedemic qualifications but time and time again he posts ridiculous comment which have little or no thought behind them. as a worker and tax payer i object most strongly to the idle bstrds he seems to want to give MORE of MY money too! it ok for him, hes a scrounger himself, he doesnt have to pay for his ludicrous suggestions, I DO. :angry: its all ok to give away other peoples money! so im quite justified in calling him a prat. post opinions by all means, but have the balls to be able to support the views you hold because if they dont stand the test of scrutiny then they are nothing more then hot air and will recieve the contempt they deserve. I object strongly to being called a scrounger. :angry: I have Dr.'s notes to say I suffer from depression/nerves and have to attend medicals every two years. I am getting nothing that I'm not entitled to. I would therefore appreciate an apology. Edited February 17, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris
February 17, 200916 yr then he should post intelligent responses... he claims accedemic qualifications but time and time again he posts ridiculous comment which have little or no thought behind them. as a worker and tax payer i object most strongly to the idle bstrds he seems to want to give MORE of MY money too! it ok for him, hes a scrounger himself, he doesnt have to pay for his ludicrous suggestions, I DO. :angry: its all ok to give away other peoples money! so im quite justified in calling him a prat. post opinions by all means, but have the balls to be able to support the views you hold because if they dont stand the test of scrutiny then they are nothing more then hot air and will recieve the contempt they deserve. They are OPINIONS. I am of the opinion that everyone on benefits should get far more. Why is it that the only opinions allowed here are yours and Grimley's? I'm entitled to my opinion just as much as you two are. At least I don't use thinly veiled swear words in every post as Grimley has to do to get his point across! :angry:
February 17, 200916 yr I object strongly to being called a scrounger. :angry: I have Dr.'s notes to say I suffer from depression/nerves and have to attend medicals every two years. I am getting nothing that I'm not entitled to. I would therefore appreciate an apology. Assuming that you left school at 16 and are now 49 and have by your own admission done 2 years worth of work in your life are you seriously telling me you have had nerves and depression keeping you off work for 31 years ? Just admit you are a sponger :)
February 17, 200916 yr Assuming that you left school at 16 and are now 49 and have by your own admission done 2 years worth of work in your life are you seriously telling me you have had nerves and depression keeping you off work for 31 years ? YES. You are correct. Edited February 17, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris
February 17, 200916 yr I object strongly to being called a scrounger. :angry: I have Dr.'s notes to say I suffer from depression/nerves and have to attend medicals every two years. I am getting nothing that I'm not entitled to. I would therefore appreciate an apology. BOG OFF WITH THAT. I suffer from depression and yes i do skip school because of it, but i still make the effort to get up every morning and go to school and deal with whatever $h!t is chucked at me... And i REFUSE medical help... And attending medicals every two years aint stopping you from working the other 364 days (This is assuming the medical takes 1 day) of the year... So if i were you i would get up and go to the job centre or create a CV and go looking around... If a bloody 16 year old can do it (me) then im sure your more than capable... Dont use the old "qualifications" excuse cos if you did leave school at 16 then you have an equal amount of qualifications as me (Again, assuming that you passed your GCSEs) Edited February 17, 200916 yr by Joao.
February 17, 200916 yr BOG OFF WITH THAT. I suffer from depression and yes i do skip school because of it, but i still make the effort to get up every morning and go to school and deal with whatever $h!t is chucked at me... And i REFUSE medical help... And attending medicals every two years aint stopping you from working the other 355 days (This is assuming the medical takes 1 day) of the year... So if i were you i would get up and go to the job centre or create a CV and go looking around... If a bloody 16 year old can do it (me) then im sure your more than capable... Dont use the old "qualifications" excuse cos if you did leave school at 16 then you have an equal amount of qualifications as me (Again, assuming that you passed your GCSEs) You can bog off too. :angry: I attend medicals to confirm to the DSS that I am unable to work any day of the year. If you don't need/refuse medical help then you can't suffer from real depression so you don't know what you're talking about. Read some books or Google about proper depression then maybe you'll understand. I passed O-levels, was in the pre-GCSE days! Young 16 year-old trying to tell me what to do with my life. :angry: Edited February 17, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris
February 17, 200916 yr You can bog off too. :angry: I attend medicals to confirm to the DSS that I am unable to work any day of the year. If you don't need/refuse medical help then you can't suffer from real depression so you don't know what you're talking about. Read some books or Google about proper depression then maybe you'll understand. I passed O-levels, was in the pre-GCSE days! Young 16 year-old trying to tell me what to do with my life. :angry: Dont you DARE tell ME what i have and HAVE NOT been through... Dont you DARE tell me that i dont know what im talking about because i have probably have more life experience on my left arm than you do in your whole body... You might be older might think you know more but dont you think about telling me what i have and have not been through.. Dont call me young either -_- As if your looking down on me, Cos at least I as a 16 year old still go out and support my family in every way possible Anyway, im not gonna compete with you about my life, i may be 16 doesnt mean i act like every other 16 year old... Edited February 17, 200916 yr by Joao.
February 17, 200916 yr Dont you DARE tell ME what i have and HAVE NOT been through... Dont you DARE tell me that i dont know what im talking about because i have probably have more life experience in my left arm than you do in your whole body... You might be older might think you know more but dont you think about telling me what i have and have not been through.. Dont call me young either -_- As if your looking down on me, Cos at least I as a 16 year old still go out and support my family in every way possible I am not looking down on you at all. You are young at 16 compared to me at 49. That's all I meant! How can a 16 year-old have more life experience than a person three times as old though?
February 17, 200916 yr I am not looking down on you at all. You are young at 16 compared to me at 49. That's all I meant! How can a 16 year-old have more life experience than a person three times as old though? You would be surprised with the amount of $h!t i deal with every day..
February 17, 200916 yr Chris is (as usual) saying things to cause yet more controversy in order to deflect all the available attention on himself. Nothing ever changes. -_- As for this story (i.e. the POINT of the thread) - how do we even know he is actually the father. Yes, they may have had sex but who's to say it weren't somebody else who actually got her 'cheggars' //
February 17, 200916 yr ^Lol there was something in todays Sun, about how something about this story doesnt "stand up" :lol: If you know what they mean :lol:
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