Songs are songs. Simple as.

 

a convincing argument :kink: but hits the nail on the head perfectly :wub:

If this gets allowed, I will withdraw and I will never come back.

Certainly 100% yes. I mean songs like Jai Ho! in this competition and Love Story in last are allowed but not some pretty random tracks from national finals that are known here by like maybe 5 people who follow those finals. That's just silly....there are so many songs to be discovered by most in this competition from national finals but now those are not allowed but world-wide no 1 hits that basically everyone knows can be entered.

If this gets allowed, I will withdraw and I will never come back.

 

Have you even been around lately?

If this gets allowed, I will withdraw and I will never come back.

Why? Is that not a bit childish?

I vote Yes.

• There are many NF songs that aren't that well known to a lot of people.
• I see no difference in sending an NF song when somebody sends a song that has been a famous chart topper in 20 countries. It doesn't make sense.
• If you are all killed telling people it's "all about the song" then NF songs shouldn't be excluded as they are songs.
• There are hundreds of NF songs that even I don't know about, so I wouldn't be biased when voting. If I like it, I'll vote for it, if I hate it, I won't vote for it.
• If NF entries are banned because "they are already popular" then we should ban "cheap" entries because they are already popular.
• The "allowing NF songs is making this into a Eurovision contest" argument is null and void. This is based on the Eurovision. You use the same voting structure, ffs.

There are many more but they are branch arguments to the ones above.

Edited April 12, 200916 yr by Cal

I vote Yes.

• There are many NF songs that aren't that well known to a lot of people.
• I see no difference in sending an NF song when somebody sends a song that has been a famous chart topper in 20 countries. It doesn't make sense.
• If you are all killed telling people it's "all about the song" then NF songs shouldn't be excluded as they are songs.
• There are hundreds of NF songs that even I don't know about, so I wouldn't be biased when voting. If I like it, I'll vote for it, if I hate it, I won't vote for it.
• If NF entries are banned because "they are already popular" then we should ban "cheap" entries because they are already popular.
• The "allowing NF songs is making this into a Eurovision contest" argument is null and void. This is based on the Eurovision. You use the same voting structure, ffs.

There are many more but they are branch arguments to the ones above.

 

I agree with all of these points ^_^

a convincing argument :kink: but hits the nail on the head perfectly :wub:

:heehee: I know that's it's a pretty simple argument, but I'm pleased you agree with it!

If this gets allowed, I will withdraw and I will never come back.

 

I'm sure many would like to know why you feel this way and I certainly hope you won't withdraw

The childish person threatening to withdraw... how many NF sound haven't you heard? Including Romania, Albania, Bulgaria, and others which aren't really public with their NFs like MF?

I'm sure many would like to know why you feel this way and I certainly hope you won't withdraw

 

without wishing to answer on anyone's behalf, Fervorosia are also in ESCToday's 'Nation Song Contest', where sending an ESC National Final song would be the equivalent of somebody here sending Poker Face to XVI...so I can see Pyryniemi's reservations about the idea

 

although obviously both contests are completely different and what works in one may not work so well in the other

I voted yes. Pop songs are pop songs... what does it matter where they came from? Someone may easily find an NF song and fall in love with it even if they never watched Eurovision...

No from me for reasons I've mentioned before, but I'm not overly fussed how this ends up.

The childish person threatening to withdraw... how many NF sound haven't you heard? Including Romania, Albania, Bulgaria, and others which aren't really public with their NFs like MF?

I'm sure MF isn't public either. It just gets much more audience.

I'm sure MF isn't public either. It just gets much more audience.

 

indeed, apart from a few random fanboys (myself included), it doesn't particularly generate any extra media coverage outside of Sweden

The childish person threatening to withdraw... how many NF sound haven't you heard? Including Romania, Albania, Bulgaria, and others which aren't really public with their NFs like MF?

 

None of that please, you may insult the arguement but not the person saying it -_-

wasn't there something else we were supposed to vote on too before the next contest!?! something Tron proposed that I don't recall currently

 

*searches* oh yes, the teaming up with people to vote in both semi-finals idea

wasn't there something else we were supposed to vote on too before the next contest!?! something Tron proposed that I don't recall currently

 

*searches* oh yes, the teaming up with people to vote in both semi-finals idea

 

:blink: Did we not dismiss this as really very stupid? :huh:

:blink: Did we not dismiss this as really very stupid? :huh:

 

I know I did by saying something along the lines of 'let's leave this discussion until later and sweep it under the carpet' :heehee:

I know I did by saying something along the lines of 'let's leave this discussion until later and sweep it under the carpet' :heehee:

 

We modders are very willing to take suggestions/rule changes through PMs if people want to suggest them. If they are reasonable and have good support we have agreed we will put them to the vote