I agree about people on JSA doing something for their benefit but I wish people would leave single mothers and people on Incapacity Benefit and any disability benefit alone.

 

In the words of Mandy Rice Davis - "You would say that though, wouldn't you....?" :rolleyes:

 

Why tf shoud we "leave single mothers alone"...? Tell me.... A lot of these creatures out there are very, very DELIBERATELY getting themselve pregnant so they can scrounge off the social.... They may not be "living in the lap of luxury", but, put it this way, "free" money every week without actually going out to earn it, free flat paid for by housing benefits, milk vouchers, not having to pay any council tax (or at least, very little....). Beats actually working for a living.....

 

And, a "human right to have as many children as you want".... FUKK OFF...... Not when I bloody have to pay for it..... :angry: :angry:

Neither of you have answered my question though. You berated me before for not argueing my point and posting crap without reasoning the point yet when I do so you conveniently skip over the salient points. So I'll try again then. How can they work with a baby/young children? Would you let them and their kids starve? I'd rather they brought their own kids up than them being plonked in a nursery all day. That costs a lot of money to. The fathers should support the kids but many won't, are still in school or college themselves or the girls don't know even who the dad is. "Could be any of 3 or 4 lads" is often heard on Jeremy Kyle.

Edited May 9, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

Neither of you have answered my question though. You berated me before for not argueing my point and posting crap without reasoning the point yet when I do so you conveniently skip over the salient points. So I'll try again then. How can they work with a baby/young children? I'd rather they brought their own kids up than them being plonked in a nursery all day. That costs a lot of money to. The fathers should support the kids but many won't, are still in school or college themselves or the girls don't know even who the dad is. "Could be any of 3 or 4 lads" is often heard on Jeremy Kyle.

 

The simple way is not get pregnant in the first place, there is such thing as contraception, there is even an injected pill that gives you 3 years of protection with 99% success rate, they shouldn't be having kids in the first place and by and large are doing it so they can get a free house and state benefits, calculated decisions getting pregnant basically

 

1 can be an accident but if they get pregnant again and are still not working then sterilise them so they can't have any more kids and take kid#2 up for adoption

What if they want kids young though? Some do.

What if they want kids young though? Some do.

 

Then they should have the money to pay for it or come from a loving family where mum and dad and granny will help out financially

 

What needs to be stamped out is fecklesss slags who drop their knickers soon as they see a guy in the street and have several babies by different dads all paid for by the taxpayer where 99% of cases the kids are feral delinquent brats 10 years down the line

Neither of you have answered my question though. You berated me before for not argueing my point and posting crap without reasoning the point yet when I do so you conveniently skip over the salient points. So I'll try again then. How can they work with a baby/young children? Would you let them and their kids starve? I'd rather they brought their own kids up than them being plonked in a nursery all day. That costs a lot of money to. The fathers should support the kids but many won't, are still in school or college themselves or the girls don't know even who the dad is. "Could be any of 3 or 4 lads" is often heard on Jeremy Kyle.

 

And this is the card these scum will play every time innit..... If we're a "decent" society, we dont let kids starve.... No, we dont, you're absolutely right, the children should NOT suffer... so, in that case, if these feckless chav females cant actually afford to have them, we take these kids into care, and put them up for adoption to childless couples (whether straight or gay, married or not) who ARE in a better position to be able to look after them.... Harsh...? Maybe, but, do that a few times and the message that the "something for nothing" culture is ending will finally get through to some of these fukkin' breeders..... -_-

 

If these single mothers only had ONE kid to bring up, then in a few years, their kid would be at school, and that woman could actually GO OUT AND FIND A BLOODY JOB, or go back into full-time education...... :rolleyes: I knew a few single mums at uni, and they had the ONE kid at school, so, it gave them the opportunity to go out, get a degree, and then find a good job.... I can understand that "accidents happen", but it's what you do AFTER, that counts...... Just dropping your knickers time and time again and dropping out litters of brats to different fathers at the taxpayers expense is NOT the way you do it......

Someone at my daughter's strict Catholic school has just had a baby at age nearly 16. She'll get a Council flat probably and benefits as soon as she's 16 as she's fallen out with her parents so is in care now. She had 3 abortions before but couldn't face a 4th. Surely the health professionals failed her by not putting her on the pill which is 99% effective I believe. I mean WTF, after one abortion don't they give them some stern family planning advice.? Then to need a second and third then a pregnancy which she proceeds with. :rolleyes: Where were the health visitors and social workers? She was in care when she got pregnant this time.

Edited May 9, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

Someone at my daughter's strict Catholic school has just had a baby at age nearly 16. She'll get a Council flat probably and benefits as soon as she's 16. She had 3 abortions before but couldn't face a 4th. Surely the health professionals failed her by not putting her on the pill which is 99% effective I believe. I mean WTF, after one abortion don't they give them some stern family planning advice.? Then to need a second and third then a pregnancy which she proceeds with. :rolleyes:

 

So, er, no such thing as CONDOMS then, round her way....? Another question - is the word "no" in this girl's vocabulary....? :rolleyes: Er, THREE abortions....? And she's not kind of, you know, abstaining, or at the very least making the bloke wear a condom.....? God, she aint even 16, and she's had three abortions.... WTF?????

 

They probably DID give her advice - "USE CONDOMS", which the stupid bint then chose to ignore most likely..... There's only so much a bloody Family Planning specialist can do you know..... They cant bloody well put a chastity belt on the silly little $l*t.....

Someone at my daughter's strict Catholic school has just had a baby at age nearly 16. She'll get a Council flat probably and benefits as soon as she's 16 as she's fallen out with her parents so is in care now. She had 3 abortions before but couldn't face a 4th. Surely the health professionals failed her by not putting her on the pill which is 99% effective I believe. I mean WTF, after one abortion don't they give them some stern family planning advice.? Then to need a second and third then a pregnancy which she proceeds with. :rolleyes: Where were the health visitors and social workers? She was in care when she got pregnant this time.

 

And the likelihood of someone like that taking the pill when provided with it?

Rustt68's idea of taking a young mother's second child away from her and putting it up for adoption is quite frankly ludicrous. Don't think I've ever read a more stupid idea in my whole time on the Net. Here are my reasons to argue my point. ;) It's everyone's human right to have a child or as many children as they want. How can they work if they want to bring up the child from birth themselves which most I would think do? If there's no fathers on the scene, or they don't know who the dad is, then how else can they live without benefits? Live on fresh air? Give them a break FFS. They're hardly living in luxury as benefit rates aren't that high. Some are excellent mothers too. I agree about people on JSA doing something for their benefit but I wish people would leave single mothers and people on Incapacity Benefit and any disability benefit alone.

Why should i pay for you to sit on your lazy arse infront of the telly all day?

 

Why the f*** should i pay for some slag to pop children out she can't afford to keep.

 

I agree with Grimly, Craig and Russt here, can't afford it then it's up for adoption.

 

and don't get me started on people like you. You disgust me, i work hard, in fact i work every damn hour i can hell i've been sent home from work before because i've worked too much in a week, and the fat twats in westminster take a chunk of my hard earned wages in tax and NI to give to lazy f***ers like you. What do i get in government money, a young students bursary worth £90.

 

I'm going to come out of uni £1000's in debt because over the past two years i've been forced to contribute £2000 to your lifestyle. I'm sorry, but i could have put that £2k to better use than you.

 

I have textbooks to buy, costing about £400 per year, i need a new laptop which'll cost about £500, oh, and i'd quite like to be able to feed myself too.

 

Why should you get a free pass because you are lazy? What about the students who work their arse for a degree as well as actually working to pay for the damn thing. My best mate works over 60hours per week in the holidays and 30 during term time, and still has a loan to help her get by.

 

I think hard working honest people need to come before the scum of the earth for once.

In answer to the above post, no-one forced anyone to go to Uni did they?

Because we all want to end up on the dole like you :rolleyes:

 

A minimum wage job is really something to aim for :rolleyes:

 

I can't wait until June 2011 when i graduate and i am one step closer to leaving the UK and scum like you

Well said Phil

 

Depression is NOT and never will be an excuse to sit on one's arse and not look for work

 

Crazy Chris may be able to hoodwink and con DOE officials but we can all see right through him he is a waster and a sponger who is leeching our taxes

 

Incapacity benefit needs scrapping and then a new benefit bought in for those with PHYSICAL disabilities while those that are supposdly depressed can go out and get bloody work or community work until they get a job

In answer to the above post, no-one forced anyone to go to Uni did they?

 

Oh, yeah right because Silas actually bettering himself by getting an education is such a negative thing for society innit....? Whereas sitting around all day doing nowt but surfing the net and popping out a feral brat every nine months at the taxpayer's expense is SOOOOOOO positive.....

 

Given the choice, as a taxpayer, between paying for your permanent lifestyle or some chav single parent to pop out litters to different fathers, and paying for Silas's education for a few years, it's a no-brainer frankly..... :rolleyes:

 

You know Chris, in your own way, your just as absolutely clueless as Michael Caine... YOU dont appreciate the fact that YOU'RE well off either, and you have the bloody audacity to slag off and criticise the people who support you (which is the chief reason why people are actually hostile to the stuff you post), and like him, you're incapable of seeing the wood for the trees....

Well said Phil

 

Depression is NOT and never will be an excuse to sit on one's arse and not look for work

 

Crazy Chris may be able to hoodwink and con DOE officials but we can all see right through him he is a waster and a sponger who is leeching our taxes

 

Incapacity benefit needs scrapping and then a new benefit bought in for those with PHYSICAL disabilities while those that are supposdly depressed can go out and get bloody work or community work until they get a job

 

Thanks, and i agree. Depression isn't a good enough excuse to be a lazy work shy sod.

Oh, yeah right because Silas actually bettering himself by getting an education is such a negative thing for society innit....? Whereas sitting around all day doing nowt but surfing the net and popping out a feral brat every nine months at the taxpayer's expense is SOOOOOOO positive.....

 

Given the choice, as a taxpayer, between paying for your permanent lifestyle or some chav single parent to pop out litters to different fathers, and paying for Silas's education for a few years, it's a no-brainer frankly..... :rolleyes:

I'm lucky because i have my tuition paid by the Scottish Executive in Scotland, if i didn't i'd be in about £5k worth of debt by now if not more and i'd be furious at being taxed on my earnings, especially when all the government gives me is £9 per month for 10 months and tells me not to spend it all at once.

 

It's disgraceful that a state sponger gets more money than a uni student who are the next generation of entrepreneurs, politicians, doctors, teachers, lawyers and accountants.

 

Without uni graduates our economy would be even further up a creek.

while those that are supposdly depressed can go out and get bloody work or community work until they get a job

 

 

What if some people are too depressed and suicidal to do community work, voluntary work or indeed any paid work? What if someone was forced to go to work and committed suicide as a result as they were unable to cope with it but had had their benefit stopped? Let's say the Tories get in next year and this happens. Maybe a big European Court Of Human Rights case against the UK Government may ensue. In fact it's been mentioned on mental health forums. They could be opening a big can of worms next year assuming they're elected.

 

Anyway people here seem to forget that depression is a recognised illness and think they're Dr's!!!

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What if some people are too depressed and suicidal to do community work, voluntary work or indeed any paid work? What if someone was forced to go to work and comitted suicide as a result they were unable to cope with it but had their benefit stopped? Maybe a big European Court Of Human Rights case may ensue. People here seem to forget that depression is a recognised illness and think they're Dr's!!!

 

Scott can answer this one far better than me, he works with people who suffer from depression and have the self respect and morals to better themselves and make something of their lives

What if some people are too depressed and suicidal to do community work, voluntary work or indeed any paid work? What if someone was forced to go to work and comitted suicide as a result they were unable to cope with it but had their benefit stopped? Maybe a big European Court Of Human Rights case may ensue. People here seem to forget that depression is a recognised illness and think they're Dr's!!!

If they are so depressed and suicidal some structure and giving their life a meaning will help to get rid of it.

 

Giving them a purpose will give them a reason to live and to get up in the morning.

 

I wonder if you even read half the stuff you post. You just look like a total fool 99% of the time

I'm lucky because i have my tuition paid by the Scottish Executive in Scotland, if i didn't i'd be in about £5k worth of debt by now if not more and i'd be furious at being taxed on my earnings, especially when all the government gives me is £9 per month for 10 months and tells me not to spend it all at once.

 

It's disgraceful that a state sponger gets more money than a uni student who are the next generation of entrepreneurs, politicians, doctors, teachers, lawyers and accountants.

 

Without uni graduates our economy would be even further up a creek.

 

Agreed, although, you have to bear in mind that it was these Public school/LSE-educated yahoos like Fred the Shred and Gordon Pell and the Yank "Ivy Leaguers" in Wall St who got us into this bloody mess to begin with (although, they were blinded by greed rather than stupidity).... :lol: :lol: Mind you, by the same token, it sure as sh!t aint gonna be the barely literate chav maggots who'll get us out of it...

 

Actually, I seriously think that you should try and get your taxes back mate... I managed it, I just said that I was a full-time student and I only worked x amount of hours a week.. You did a p/t job, correct...? Well, check out your tax code, get in touch with HMRC and see if you can get at least some of your taxes paid back to you....

Scott can answer this one far better than me, he works with people who suffer from depression and have the self respect and morals to better themselves and make something of their lives

 

 

Yes that's fine if thay can cope with it but what if people just can't? You can't make a generalisation which I fear the Tories will next year that anyone is fit for light work. I'm sure Scott will agree with me that there are varying degrees of depression.

Edited May 10, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris