Could Jordin overtake her as well do you think? :o

It might happen, but look at it this way...the lowest she can be is #13.

Wow :o Do you still have access to top 200 data from that period? TBH I like Elvis but Way Down is not one of his best... almost the opposite :puke2:

Ironically Terry Wogan actually played "Way Down" at 8.15 this morning, and I thought, was the connection purely by coincidence? It was uncanny.

How weird...

OMG the top 3 physicals are brilliant. In a perfect world this should be the official chart :D

True :wub:

Dave, how is the physical top20 known this early? Shouldnt it be out Sunday? Or is it like a midweek thing?

Dave, how is the physical top20 known this early? Shouldnt it be out Sunday? Or is it like a midweek thing?

There is obviously a physical chart somewhere on a Sunday...That would be Official, one French site does sometimes mention sales...Our one covers Sun - Fri PM.

Wow :o Do you still have access to top 200 data from that period? TBH I like Elvis but Way Down is not one of his best... almost the opposite :puke2:

The BPI library at County Hall in London have the top 200 chart printouts, with full chart panel sales, going back to at least January 1983 up to mid 1994 but quite possibly from years before that too. I've seen reports that they hold all the old chart print outs with sales back to 1969 but there seems to be some uncertainty about that. But for certain they have the chart reports with sales from January 1983 to mid 1994 before Millward Brown began to hold everything on a sales database.

 

Given the number of Michael Jackson tracks clogging up the I-Tunes charts at the moment its really going to **** up the Big Top 40 even more on Sunday...... :)

The BPI library at County Hall in London have the top 200 chart printouts, with full chart panel sales, going back to at least January 1983 up to mid 1994 but quite possibly from years before that too. I've seen reports that they hold all the old chart print outs with sales back to 1969 but there seems to be some uncertainty about that. But for certain they have the chart reports with sales from January 1983 to mid 1994 before Millward Brown began to hold everything on a sales database.

 

Wow - and is that public? I could spend YEARS going through that... :kink:

Wow - and is that public? I could spend YEARS going through that... :kink:

Hopefully they`ve got it all filed properly! That BBC archive is a complete mess. I could spend a lifetime sorting that out. Apparently it`s much the same in their Video & Film Library. I wonder why the BBC waste so much money, and fail to file things properly?

The BPI library is open to the public but is by appointment only meaning you have to phone up in advance. Once there the staff are apparently very helpful and will search out whatever it is you want. The chart reports are filed away in boxes, a box for each year. The sales they show are chart panel, not actual market, sales. "Chart panel sales" was a concept devised at the outset of the official chart in 1969 and the figures are intended to show sales as if they had occurred in 250 stores - the figure of 250 being arrived at simply because that was the amount of stores that were sampled (from a pool of about 350 to 500 stores providing sales data) to compile the chart in 1969 through to the early 70s. Over the years both the size of the chart pool and the amount of stores sampled grew but the industry wanted consistency in the sales figures so the chart reports always adjusted sales to show sales as if they had occurred in 250 stores. To convert these into total market sales Gallup used a multiplier, the multiplier being determined by how many record stores there were in the country as a whole compared to the mythical 250 stores in the chart panel - in 1994 when Millward Brown took over compilation of the chart from Gallup, the multiplier for singles was 17 (250 x 17 = 4,250 stores, which would be a rough representation of the actual total amount of stores) so total market sales for any title was arrived at by the simple method of multiplying chart panel sales times 17. Not very scientific and not a highly accurate way of calculating total market sales either... In 1997 the amount of stores providing sales figures grew to be 99% of the entire total of stores selling singles so the chart panel sale method was dropped in favour of actual sales.

Edited June 27, 200916 yr by Robbie