Or it is just boring and goes nowhere. Save for Mel C's middle 8 it is pretty much a snooze. It kills the vibe on tour and they know it which is why they tried to jazz it up in 2007.

 

But it worked so beautifully in slow and soft mode again in 2019 :P It doesnt kill the vibe at all. Sure, they have yet to really do it justice live, but I think the track works really well. It's a gorgeous track, beautifully written and magically produced, just stunning all around :heart:

I think it’s such a stunning song, so atmospheric with the build up to Mel B’s verse and then the highs of Melanie C to a sultry chorus. I didn’t appreciate it as much as a child but as an adult I’d say it’s my second favourite ballad after Viva Forever. It has such a hint of a jazz and bluesy feel to it while still being a polished pop song.

 

Their live performance of it at the AMA’s is just gorgeous too.

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Too Much is probably my favourite Spiceworld single!

I think it’s such a stunning song, so atmospheric with the build up to Mel B’s verse and then the highs of Melanie C to a sultry chorus. I didn’t appreciate it as much as a child but as an adult I’d say it’s my second favourite ballad after Viva Forever. It has such a hint of a jazz and bluesy feel to it while still being a polished pop song.

 

Their live performance of it at the AMA’s is just gorgeous too.

 

This :wub:

 

I'd say their ballads go like:

 

1. Viva Forever

2. Goodbye

3. Too Much

4. 2 Become 1

5. Let Love Lead The Way

6. Headlines

7. Mama

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This :wub:

 

I'd say their ballads go like:

 

1. Viva Forever

2. Goodbye

3. Too Much

4. 2 Become 1

5. Let Love Lead The Way

6. Headlines

7. Mama

 

 

I think mine is:

 

1. Viva forever

2. Too much

3. 2 become 1

4. Goodbye

5. Let love lead the way

6. Time goes by

7. Mama

8. Headlines

 

If Mama wasn't quite as cheesy lyrics wise it would actually be higher. The music to it is divine its just a bit cringey :lol: I genuinely think all their ballad are beautiful though

Poor Oxygen.

I think mine is:

 

1. Viva forever

2. Too much

3. 2 become 1

4. Goodbye

5. Let love lead the way

6. Time goes by

7. Mama

8. Headlines

 

If Mama wasn't quite as cheesy lyrics wise it would actually be higher. The music to it is divine its just a bit cringey :lol: I genuinely think all their ballad are beautiful though

 

I agree on Mama. And just like Headlines, which is also a victim of the cringe, it comes out really nicelly live, although I would be happy to never see it performed again to give space to other lesser heard tracks.

 

It's a hit though, no denying that. If I had to do a full ballad breakdown though, it would go:

 

1. Viva Forever

2. Goodbye

3. Naked

4. Too Much

5. 2 Become 1

6. Oxygen

7. Denying

8. Let Love Lead The Way

9. Headlines (Friendship Never Ends)

10. Mama

11. Time Goes By

 

They really did ballads well to be honest!

At least you go the top 2 right.

Sorry sammy but if you think Naked and Too Much arent top songs, then Im afraid you need to get a new taste. Try the post-Christmas sales period, you might find some taste on sale :P

Do we consider denying a ballad? I guess it could be thinking about it I’ve never really classed it as one. Or naked tbh but again thinking about it definitely more ballad than upbeat.

Poor Oxygen.

 

Oxygen would probably go just above mama for me I think.

Do we consider denying a ballad? I guess it could be thinking about it I’ve never really classed it as one. Or naked tbh but again thinking about it definitely more ballad than upbeat.

 

Definitely ballads, just that both are more r'n'b ballads than the standard pop ones like the rest on the list.

Denying is a mid-tempo imo.

Lol at anyone thinking Denying is a ballad.

Broadcast on MTV:

 

1 Wannabe 2,244,000

2 2 Become 1 1,395,500

3 Spice Up Your Life 1,180,000

4 Say You'll Be There 1,165,500

5 Goodbye 973,000

6 Who Do You Think You Are? 914,500

7 Viva Forever 826,500

8 Too Much 756,000

9 Stop 737,000

10 Holler 322,000

Ooh thank you for sharing this Liam!

 

With Goodbye on 973k in that list, but revealed as 977k by OCC recently, it makes me wonder what the cut off date is for the above list :thinking: I’ll do some maths when I’m next on the computer. :kink:

 

Nice to have confirmation that Spice Up Your Life has overtaken Say You’ll Be There as it seemed from previous updates that it was destined to do this. Looking forward to both of them going double platinum!

Oh if that is a few weeks out of date then with Goodbye actually 4k higher then SUYL must be less than 15k off double plat.

 

Holler inching towards gold, we love to see it.

I attempted to work out the date that the above sales come from. I did this by looking at Stop's totals from 18th March 2021 [638,000] and 9th March 2022 [over 704,000]. Both of those are rounded figures. It works out as 66,000 sales in 51 weeks = 1,294.1176 sales per week on average. I also worked out other "sales per week on average" figures by changing the above total sales to consider them having been rounded up or down. For instance I did some workings with 637,500, 638,499 and 704,499.

 

Going through a few different calculations, in almost every scenario, Stop reached either a bit below or a bit over 737,000 on 26th August 2022. In the absence of more concrete information, I'm going to just accept this as an estimated date for those MTV sales.

 

OCC revealed Goodbye's sales to be 977,000 in an article published on Thursday 8th December (and I assume that total is as of Friday 2nd December). 26th August is 14 weeks earlier than 2nd Dec. Being on 973,000 on 26th August would result in its average weekly sales being 285 units since then. That's pretty close to its average from 11th Dec 2020 [949,000 total] to 2nd Dec 2022 [977,000 total]: 28,000 sales in 103 weeks = 272 sales per week on average. So I think this further supports 26th August being a strong possibility.

 

Here are my estimated sales as of 16th December 2022. The figures look very precise but they really are just estimates. I have shared all my workings at the bottom of this post!

 

Estimations: 16th December 2022

2,295,424 - Wannabe

1,409,298 - 2 Become 1

1,196,098 - Spice Up Your Life (So it seems that this is on the cusp of 2xPlat - maybe in January 2023? We'll see!)

1,176,450 - Say You'll Be There

977,000 - Goodbye (2nd December 2022 / Source: OCC, article published 8th Dec '22)

926,313 - Mama/Who Do You Think You Are

834,500 - Viva Forever

759,530 - Too Much

758,120 - Stop

324,915 - Holler/Let Love Lead the Way

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149,466 - Mama [stand-alone]

62,954 - Headlines (Friendship Never Ends)

24,195 - Let Love Lead the Way [stand-alone]

 

 

Estimation workings (remember that 26/08/2022 is just the date I'm assuming the MTV figures are from):

 

Wannabe -

03/09/2021: 2,080,086

26/08/2022: 2,244,000

Increase in 51 weeks: 163,914

Average per week: 3214

16/12/2022: 2,244,000 + (3,214 x 16 weeks)

 

Say You'll Be There -

13/11/2020: 1,101,855

26/08/2022: 1,165,500

Increase in 93 weeks: 63,645

Average per week: 684.3548

16/12/2022: 1,165,000 + (684.3548 x 16 weeks)

 

2 Become 1 -

13/11/2020: 1,315,297

26/08/2022: 1,395,500

Increase in 93 weeks: 80,203

Average per week: 862.3978

16/12/2022: 1,395,500 + (862.3978 x 16 weeks)

 

Mama/Who Do You Think You Are -

13/11/2020: 845,838

26/08/2022: 914,500

Increase in 93 weeks: 68,662

Average per week: 738.3011

16/12/2022: 914,500 + (738.3011 x 16 weeks)

 

Spice Up Your Life -

13/11/2020: 1,086,430

26/08/2022: 1,180,000

Increase in 93 weeks: 93,570

Average per week: 1,006.1290

16/12/2022: 1,180,000 + (1,006.1290 x 16 weeks)

 

Too Much -

13/11/2020: 735,483

26/08/2022: 756,000

Increase in 93 weeks: 20,517

Average per week: 220.6129

16/12/2022: 756,000 + (220.6129 x 16 weeks)

 

Stop -

04/03/2022: 704,000

26/08/2022: 737,000

Increase in 25 weeks: 33,000

Average per week: 1,320

16/12/2022: 737,000 + (1,320 x 16 weeks)

 

Viva Forever -

23/07/2021: 798,000

26/08/2022: 826,500

Increase in 57 weeks: 28,500

Average per week: 500

16/12/2022: 826,500 + (500 x 16 weeks)

 

Holler/Let Love Lead the Way -

13/11/2020: 305,054

26/08/2022: 322,000

Increase in 93 weeks: 16,946

Average per week: 182.2151

16/12/2022: 322,000 + (182.2151 x 16 weeks)

 

Headlines (Friendship Never Ends) -

08/05/2020: 58,814

13/11/2020: 59,636

Increase in 27 weeks: 822

Average per week: 30.4444

16/12/2022: 59,636 + (30.4444 x 109 weeks)

 

Mama [stand alone] -

08/05/2020: 106,006

13/11/2020: 114,634

Increase in 27 weeks: 8,628

Average per week: 319.5556

16/12/2022: 114,634 + (319.5556 x 109 weeks)

 

Let Love Lead the Way [stand alone] -

08/05/2020: 17,707

13/11/2020: 18,995

Increase in 27 weeks: 1,288

Average per week: 47.7037

16/12/2022: 18,995 + (47.7037 x 109 weeks)

Some possible future outcomes within the next 10 years (take them all with a pinch of salt! A lot can change)

 

 

2xPlatinum (1.2m) - Spice Up Your Life (January 2023) [i really hope it ends up being this imminent, but we'll see, maybe it'll need a bit longer]

 

4xPlatinum (2.4m) - Wannabe (August 2023)

 

2xPlatinum (1.2m) - Say You'll Be There (August 2023)

 

1 million - Goodbye (June 2024)

 

1 million - Mama/Who Do You Think You Are (November 2024)

 

1.5 million - 2 Become 1 (December 2024)

 

Silver (200k) - Mama (January 2026)

 

1 million - Stop (June 2026)

 

1 million - Viva Forever (April 2029)

 

2xPlatinum (1.2m) - Stop (May 2029)

 

2xPlatinum (1.2m) - Mama/Who Do You Think You Are (January 2030)

 

Gold (400k) - Holler/Let Love Lead the Way (November 2030)

 

3xPlatinum (1.8m) - 2 Become 1 (August 2031)

1 million - Viva Forever (April 2029)

 

Gold (400k) - Holler/Let Love Lead the Way (November 2030)

 

Thanks Jay but these made me sad :cheeseblock: