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Mr.X
post Nov 25 2020, 11:14 PM
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Hey Buzzjack Spice Gang (wouldnt that be a good moniker for the fandom?!) wub.gif

The girls have such a small discography, it is always interesting to know what else they have done that never got to see the (proper) light of day. Plus, we know that the fandom would like to have more unreleased music at some point acknowleged by the group in an official capacity.

Can we compile a list of all the songs that we know exist and demos out there, to keep it all in one place? I will keep adding more as they come in and as you reply here.

LEAKED DEMOS OF RELEASED TRACKS

Love Thing (Unreleased Demo Version leaked)
Wannabe (Unreleased Demo Version leaked)
If U Can't Dance (Unreleased Demo Version leaked)
Step To Me (Unreleased Demo Version leaked)
Last Time Lover (Unreleased Demo Version leaked)
2 Become 1 (Unreleased Demo Version leaked)

UNRELEASED TRACKS

Is This Love (Unreleased Touch Demo - leaked)
Walking on Air (Unreleased Touch Demo - leaked)
Do You Think About Me? (Unreleased Touch Demo - leaked)
Just One of Those Days (Unreleased Touch Demo)
Sugar & Spice (Unreleased Touch Demo)
Melody of Life - (Unreleased Touch Demo - leaked)
Don't Break My Heart (Unreleased Touch Demo - leaked)
Don't Wanna Be (Unreleased Touch Demo - leaked)
Don't Look Back (Unreleased Touch Demo)
We're Gonna Make It Happen (Unreleased Touch Demo - performed in Raw Spice documentary; a live recording leaked)
Take Me Away (Unreleased Touch Demo - performed in Raw Spice documentary, a live recording leaked)
I Want You, I Need You (Unreleased Touch Demo - performed in Raw Spice documentary, a live recording leaked)

Pleasin' Me (Unreleased Spice Sessions Demo)
Likely Stories AKA C U Next Tuesday (Unreleased Spice Sessions Demo)
Feed Your Love (Unreleased Spice Sessions Demo - clip played on Instagram by Biff)
Strong Enough (Unreleased Spice Sessions Demo - leaked)

Image & Likeness (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo)
Seven Days (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo)
Can't Stay Tonight (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo)
Leader of The Gang (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo, produced by Biffco according to the end credits of Spice World movie)
Sound Off/Military Cadence (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo, produced by Biffco according to the end credits of Spice World movie)

A Day In Your Life (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo - leaked)
Right Back At Ya (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo - leaked)
Pain Proof (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo - leaked)
Give You What You Want (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo - leaked)
W.O.M.A.N. (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo - played on Before The Big One Documentary & performed live at the Christmas in Spiceworld Tour)
Too Hot (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo)
Treasure (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo)
Go Go Go (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo)
Overnight (Unreleased Forever Sessions Demo)

Spice Is Back (Unreleased Greatest Hits Sessions Demo)
Angels (Unreleased Greatest Hits Sessions Demo)

Total as Spice Girls: 36
Total as Touch: 12


TOTAL: 48 wub.gif


Add any more that we know below and I will include them here! w00t.gif


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post Nov 25 2020, 11:16 PM
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Do we know if they ever even actually recorded:

- Are You My Friend? (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo, later released by another artist in German - cant remember the name in German)
- The George Michael song in 2007?
- Boyfriend/Girlfriend wth Blackstreet
- Holiday (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)
- We Are Family (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)

Are we allowed to post youtube links for the ltracks listed here?
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post Nov 25 2020, 11:34 PM
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Pleasin' Me - Spice
Likely Stories AKA C U Next Tuesday - Spice
Can't Stay Tonight - Spiceworld
Leader of The Gang - Spiceworld (produced by Biffco according to the end credits of Spice World movie)
Sound Off/Military Cadence - Spiceworld (produced by Absolute according to the end credits of Spice World movie)

Just One of Those Days - Touch
Sugar & Spice - Touch
Melody of Life - Touch
Don't Break My Heart - Touch (leaked)
Don't Wanna Be - Touch (leaked)
Don't Look Back - Touch
We're Gonna Make It Happen - Touch
Take Me Away - Touch
I Want You, I Need You - Touch
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post Nov 25 2020, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(Sideout @ Nov 26 2020, 12:34 AM) *
Pleasin' Me - Spice
Likely Stories AKA C U Next Tuesday - Spice
Can't Stay Tonight - Spiceworld
Leader of The Gang - Spiceworld (produced by Biffco according to the end credits of Spice World movie)
Sound Off/Military Cadence - Spiceworld (produced by Absolute according to the end credits of Spice World movie)

Just One of Those Days - Touch
Sugar & Spice - Touch
Melody of Life - Touch
Don't Break My Heart - Touch (leaked)
Don't Wanna Be - Touch (leaked)
Don't Look Back - Touch
We're Gonna Make It Happen - Touch
Take Me Away - Touch
I Want You, I Need You - Touch


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post Nov 25 2020, 11:53 PM
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There's 48 tracks just on this list, and Im sure there might be a few more in the vaults that we never heard of (just like the 4 forever demos when they leaked, we didnt know about them before that date, lol)

So, girls.... plenty to choose from for a Spice special re-release next year funky.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 26 2020, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 25 2020, 06:16 PM) *
Do we know if they ever even actually recorded:

- Are You My Friend? (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo, later released by another artist in German - cant remember the name in German)
- The George Michael song in 2007?
- Boyfriend/Girlfriend wth Blackstreet
- Holiday (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)
- We Are Family (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)


I may have talked about it before...but Girlfriend/Boyfriend has always been especially interesting to me.

I remember way back in mid-1998, MTV reported Teddy Riley had offered the song to the girls. As far as I can tell, everything after that has been tabloid speculation. Besides fan sites claiming it, do we actually know the girls recorded it? I'm fairly sure none of them have ever addressed that song in interviews. A clip leaked back then that was an obvious fake.

Granted, Teddy Riley did go on to work with Mel B on Hot. She described him as being hard to work with...with a bad attitude and a lot of preconceived notions about her. To me...this doesn't especially sound like she had a prior working relationship with him from a Girlfriend/Boyfriend session.

I guess it's always possible they didn't record it (or their recording was dumped) when two of the girls got pregnant and the group went on a hiatus (the song was eventually released in May '99 when the group would've been pretty unlikely to shoot a new video or promote it).

One last thing. Anything else remember these rumored lyrics floating around in 1999? "Sugar and Spice, naughty and nice, glitter and ice, entice, Spice up your life not your baby's mom or wife." They sound pretty made up to me.

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post Nov 26 2020, 05:06 AM
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If ya do (forever session)
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post Nov 26 2020, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 04:46 AM) *
I may have talked about it before...but Girlfriend/Boyfriend has always been especially interesting to me.

I remember way back in mid-1998, MTV reported Teddy Riley had offered the song to the girls. As far as I can tell, everything after that has been tabloid speculation. Besides fan sites claiming it, do we actually know the girls recorded it? I'm fairly sure none of them have ever addressed that song in interviews. A clip leaked back then that was an obvious fake.

Granted, Teddy Riley did go on to work with Mel B on Hot. She described him as being hard to work with...with a bad attitude and a lot of preconceived notions about her. To me...this doesn't especially sound like she had a prior working relationship with him from a Girlfriend/Boyfriend session.

I guess it's always possible they didn't record it (or their recording was dumped) when two of the girls got pregnant and the group went on a hiatus (the song was eventually released in May '99 when the group would've been pretty unlikely to shoot a new video or promote it).

One last thing. Anything else remember these rumored lyrics floating around in 1999? "Sugar and Spice, naughty and nice, glitter and ice, entice, Spice up your life not your baby's mom or wife." They sound pretty made up to me.


Yeah that sounds pretty made up to me too lol hence why I didnt want to include it in the list as I am pretty sure this was all a rumour (and didnt someone close to them really debunk it anyway?)...

I also remember that people refered to Janet singing 'there's some spice in this' lyric as a left over lyric from the Spice version lol
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post Nov 26 2020, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 26 2020, 05:23 AM) *
Yeah that sounds pretty made up to me too lol hence why I didnt want to include it in the list as I am pretty sure this was all a rumour (and didnt someone close to them really debunk it anyway?)...

I also remember that people refered to Janet singing 'there's some spice in this' lyric as a left over lyric from the Spice version lol


I mean. Who knows. It might be?

I think in all likelihood, the girls did get offered the song by Riley. That part was reported by MTV...and I think everything MTV said about the girls back then turned out to be real or at least something that was genuinely in the pipeline. I'm just not convinced the group ever recorded it or even accepted the offer. Maybe that was part of the reason Riley was so sour to Mel B? He was trying to get the group for a project and only got a single member instead?

I did always think one part of the story was especially odd...it was intended for the South Park movie soundtrack? That soundtrack ended up only having songs from the movie itself (which was a musical). What seems slightly more likely is that the song could have been for South Park's Chef Aid album released at the end of 1998...which did have a few big artists on it.

Anyway. It's got my curiosity, but I don't think the girls not being on the song is any great loss. I like pretty much all of Forever better than Girlfriend/Boyfriend. I also think the song was a bit below Janet's usual standard in that time too. The old music video's a bit of a curiosity. Parts of it are actually quite creative and still look cool, but it's like they run out of money or effort or something at a a certain point.
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QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 03:11 PM) *
I mean. Who knows. It might be?

I think in all likelihood, the girls did get offered the song by Riley. That part was reported by MTV...and I think everything MTV said about the girls back then turned out to be real or at least something that was genuinely in the pipeline. I'm just not convinced the group ever recorded it or even accepted the offer. Maybe that was part of the reason Riley was so sour to Mel B? He was trying to get the group for a project and only got a single member instead?

I did always think one part of the story was especially odd...it was intended for the South Park movie soundtrack? That soundtrack ended up only having songs from the movie itself (which was a musical). What seems slightly more likely is that the song could have been for South Park's Chef Aid album released at the end of 1998...which did have a few big artists on it.

Anyway. It's got my curiosity, but I don't think the girls not being on the song is any great loss. I like pretty much all of Forever better than Girlfriend/Boyfriend. I also think the song was a bit below Janet's usual standard in that time too. The old music video's a bit of a curiosity. Parts of it are actually quite creative and still look cool, but it's like they run out of money or effort or something at a a certain point.


Oh I forgot about that South Park thing and it does make sense. Maybe the fact that it wasnt the best song ever was a deciding factor? I agree that whilst it would have been interesting, it did sound maybe a bit too left field for the Spice Girls. HAVING SAID THAT.... maybe this song being released at the time would have bridged the gap between Goodbye and Forever being released and got the public a bit more used to the R&B sound of Forever...
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QUOTE(dachiki @ Nov 26 2020, 05:06 AM) *
If ya do (forever session)


Oh I never heard of this one. Do you have references of where to find information about it?
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QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 26 2020, 01:13 PM) *
Oh I never heard of this one. Do you have references of where to find information about it?


I've heard of If Ya Do as a rumored track too...but I can't seem to find anything about it now. I actually just scrolled through the old SpiceNews site articles from 2000...and didn't spot anything.

Anyway. This was 20 years ago, so I could be off on this. But my memory is that If Ya Do was one of the rumored titles of Forever tracks that emerged in the months before the album release. Supposedly Emma revealed it? I thought some fan sites reported it at the time.

I'm not sure I invest that much faith into the rumor. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we ever saw writing credits spring up for an If Ya Do. Also...I find it a little unlikely they'd put an If Ya Do and an If You Wanna Have Some Fun on the same album.

There were several odd song rumors floating around before Forever came out. Perhaps the oddest rumor was that a seven minute song called Bye was going to be included...which was mostly going to be them saying goodbye to the fans.

Quick side note. Reading through those old Spice stories from 2000, Victoria and (especially) Mel C were pretty vicious to other acts in pop in *a lot* of interviews. A. Lot. Lol. They certainly didn't like Geri...


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I had read this on Denden forum before
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post Nov 27 2020, 12:16 AM
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As for the George Michael song, I don't think they ever recorded that either.

Supposedly, Michael's writing partner told a radio interview December Song was originally meant for the girls' Greatest Hits album...but they missed the deadline to submit it.

A collab between Michael and the girls would seem like a great idea on paper, but the song seems quite wrong for the group. It's pretty overtly religious and a downer.

Their Greatest Hits period is quite an odd time it seems. George Michael writes a song. Mel C's guitarist writes a song. Ne-Yo is asked to participate. But we end up with two Biffo tracks.
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QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 08:22 PM) *
Quick side note. Reading through those old Spice stories from 2000, Victoria and (especially) Mel C were pretty vicious to other acts in pop in *a lot* of interviews. A. Lot. Lol. They certainly didn't like Geri...

Ha, I definitely recall that Melanie C really didn't hold back in some interviews. In today's social media age she'd have got so many angry messages from fans drama.gif laugh.gif

By the way, fascinating to see all those songs listed together. I really hope that some of them can find their way onto a rarities album someday... I'll keep dreaming lol.

My contribution to this thread... Say You'll Be There with the rap. Supposedly this exists as a studio version but it's never leaked?
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QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 08:22 PM) *
Quick side note. Reading through those old Spice stories from 2000, Victoria and (especially) Mel C were pretty vicious to other acts in pop in *a lot* of interviews. A. Lot. Lol. They certainly didn't like Geri...


Ohhh...do tell! which pop acts besides Geri? blink.gif
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On the ultimatespice website we can see this:
- Love Thang (Demo) (12") - 6:27
- Love Thang (Demo) (7") - 3:43
- Love Thang (Demo) (Instrumental) - 3:54
- Love Thang (Demo) (TV) - 3:43
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QUOTE(KM AIR @ Nov 27 2020, 05:34 AM) *
Ohhh...do tell! which pop acts besides Geri? blink.gif


Not 2000 but I remember Mel slagging quite a few acts off including newly formed Girls Aloud a few times during the Reason era.

Not a good idea to piss off fans of other acts who may casually buy your records.
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Not 2000 but I remember Mel slagging quite a few acts off including newly formed Girls Aloud a few times during the Reason era.

Not a good idea to piss off fans of other acts who may casually buy your records.


Actually now that you mention it, Mel C has even more recently consistently been awful about other female acts like Girls Aloud, Little Mix, Rihanna, etc.

And she has always done it about the same thing: women being extravagant/sexual. Hopefully this new found 'freedom' and take on equality does bring her some light on this as it is a shame that she spent most of her career advocating for women's rights whilst simultaneous shitting on other female acts...

She does do come around though, and has made peace and friends with Little Mix for instance...
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OK I will include only a list of songs we definitely have confirmation of, so no If Ya Do and BlackStreet songs on the list. George's song was clearly never recorded by the girls themselves either so will leave that out.

Jay - THANKS for reminding me about the Say You'll Be There version with the rap! That is one of the holly grails of Spiceworld together with WOMAN and I cant quite believe I forgot about it!!
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