I'm going to wait and see midweeks tomorrow but if this is anywhere near x factor sales, am going to buy it cos cant stand the x factor and think it will send out a clear message that people have had enough of it dominating the xmas charts every year with a crap song.

HMV will shift tons of physicals and the supermarkets. Poor RATM will only make number 2 but thats a brilliant achievement.

 

And how many others countries would you get such a hardcore christmas number 2. The british public are cool afterall. Never thought RATM would have a christmas hit with that tune what a result. Wish they would do some promo would love to hear them do it live and uncut on jonathon ross or alan carrs show after the watershed.

 

The Christmas no 1 is very much a UK thing! Nowhere else really gives a s..t! :)

 

I read a comment from that HMV spokesperson (the only person who is ever asked for music related comments these days :) and he was saying that physical sales are at their biggest immediately before Christmas with X Factor. Perhaps if the bast*rds stocked decent quantities of more singles during the rest of the year they might sell more....

I'll be starting a Facebook campaign next year for a Christmas song that's never heard these days to beat X-Factor to No.1. I shall be contacting editors of many daily newspapers to enlist their help with this.

Edited December 14, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris-Tmas

I'll be starting a Facebook campaign next year for a Christmas song that's never heard these days to beat X-Factor to No.1. I shall be contacting editors of many daily newspapers to enlist their help with this.

 

and they will all be shunning you for supporting a convicted p****.

and they will all be shunning you for supporting a convicted p****.

 

 

:rolleyes: I never stated what song did I? May be Dana's from 1975.

:rolleyes: I never stated what song did I? May be Dana's from 1975.

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=2857824

Well I have changed my mind and it's not now that one so never assume anything.

Well I have changed my mind and it's not now that one so never assume anything.

 

I wasnt assuming though was I, you said directly in that thread Gary Glitter, I wasnt assuming, I was replying based on what you had already said, you only 'changed your mind' to try to make out like I just take assumptions.

 

Stop being such a troll.

Has anyone heard its number 2 on itunes? we could see it at christmas number 2 by sunday, and theres the Muppets 'bohemian rhapsody'

 

The two are so different, if it was number 1- I would just be like.. :rofl:

 

 

So, it's just a complete coincidence that both the acts he's promoting are Sony Corp acts is it...? Yeah, right, why didn't he promote, say, The Sex Pistols, The Killing Joke, The Dead Kennedys or System of Down then......? :rolleyes:

 

Sorry mate, you dont go from Promoting a puppet like Prick Astley one year to promoting someone like Rage, unless someone is paying you to do it....

 

Sony wins both ways no matter if X-Factor or RATM win this battle - THAT is the bottom line..... Sony aint giving their profit to charity are they...? The whole point of a "Charity" song is that NO ONE gets paid, but Sony is.... And that says it all for me....

 

I think it is a coincidence. It's no surprise why he went for Rick Astley last year, then RATM this year. For these campaigns to work you have to have a gimmick to keep people interested, and the whole anti-Cowell / anti-commercialist angle has paid off. No-one cared last year if Sony were getting the money for the multiple versions of Hallelujah in the charts, and it's the same this year - it's all about the No.1. If he picked a Christmas song to promote then it wouldn't have got anywhere near the same backing because it's just a Christmas song, and no matter how good it is there's no angle there. Even if that had been on Sony, would you have still accused of him getting paid for promoting it? No, it's because of how well run a campaign it is and the attention it has received that you suspect it could only be the work of someone bigger or higher up in the music industry. Were those who promoted Jeff Buckley in any way affiliated with Sony?

 

I'll be starting a Facebook campaign next year for a Christmas song that's never heard these days to beat X-Factor to No.1. I shall be contacting editors of many daily newspapers to enlist their help with this.

 

Be careful you don't pick a Sony act or you'll be accused of getting brown envelopes passed your way. :teresa:

This is Doing better than i expected, #1 on Amazon, HMV and play, #2 on iTunes...

This is Doing better than i expected, #1 on Amazon, HMV and play, #2 on iTunes...

I think it will be #1 on tomorrows mids.

Rage Factor: Cowell and Co in Second Xmas Chart Con

 

http://www.thesargeants.net/dblog/articolo.asp?articolo=264

 

Jon Morter - Media Graduate and PR/Marketing Man. :thinking:

Rage Factor: Cowell and Co in Second Xmas Chart Con

 

http://www.thesargeants.net/dblog/articolo.asp?articolo=264

 

Jon Morter - Media Graduate and PR/Marketing Man. :thinking:

 

hmm. I think Sony (or Epic) might be behind this all then :( :( :(

 

I still dont think Cowell has anything at all to do with it, especially now it's such a threat to TXF getting number 1.

 

Regardless, i'd still love it to get to number 1 and especially seeing as all of RATM's profit's go to Shelter.

hmm. I think Sony (or Epic) might be behind this all then :( :( :(

 

I still dont think Cowell has anything at all to do with it, especially now it's such a threat to TXF getting number 1.

 

Regardless, i'd still love it to get to number 1 and especially seeing as all of RATM's profit's go to Shelter.

If that is the case, our best hope is that the OCC ban both songs from the chart. Now that really would make my Christmas

If that is the case, our best hope is that the OCC ban both songs from the chart. Now that really would make my Christmas

 

lol as long as TXF is banned, that would be brilliant.

hmm. I think Sony (or Epic) might be behind this all then :( :( :(

 

I still dont think Cowell has anything at all to do with it, especially now it's such a threat to TXF getting number 1.

 

Regardless, i'd still love it to get to number 1 and especially seeing as all of RATM's profit's go to Shelter.

I've been digging for more dirt.

 

My current impression is the campaign is fine. The previous link has a few errors, but it did enable me with more information to research.

I'll post up some more links/screen shots in a while.

lol as long as TXF is banned, that would be brilliant.

That was one of the two I had in mind :P

Well let's face it, when the physical hits shelves on Wednesday, #1 is long gone for RATM.

'Concern' as Rage Against The Machine vs 'X Factor' Facebook campaign vanishes

Organiser Jon Morter speaks after Facebook page becomes inaccessible

NME.com News * December 14, 2009 9:14 PM

 

The founder of the Rage Against The Machine For Christmas No.1 Facebook group has said he is "concerned" that the social networking group may have shut the page down.

 

Throughout today (December 14), the page has been inaccessible to Facebook users, who are instead directed to their home page on the site when typing the group URL.

 

Founder Jon Morter told Theglobalherald.com that he had been contacted by a member of Facebook's PR team about the status of the page.

 

"The group went down last night in which a member of Facebook's PR team contacted to say it was a 'bug'," he explained. "Later in the evening the group returned as normal, but now it's gone yet again I do start to be concerned."

 

He added that his primary concern was that if the page goes down, people will find it difficult to donate money to charity - over £25,000 has been raised for Shelter so far.

 

"If anything I have some media interviews coming up and it wouldn't look particularly good for Facebook if they have indeed pulled it. If not anything for the fact that it slows down rapidly our charity donations," he said

 

Morter added that he is currently awaiting a response from Facebook, but that in the meantime, a backup group has been created.

 

Simon Cowell recently branded the campaign – to get Rage Against The Machine's Killing In The Name to beat The X Factor winner Joe McElderry to Number One – as "stupid".

 

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I think this can only be for one of two reasons....

 

A.) This is a very clever PR campaign by Sony which has worked too well due to the high volumes of RATM so Sony/Facebook have pulled the plug on it to avoid further suspicions.

 

B.) SyCo see this as a real threat to Joe McEldrey's chances of reaching #1 and have used their contacts via Max Clifford to get Facebook to take the site down.