No.

 

Sunday 4th January 2009 - Week 53 **carried over**

Sunday 11th January 2009 Week 1

Sunday 27th December 2009 - Week 51

Sunday 3rd January 2010 - Week 52

 

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87633

 

so 10 Jan is Week 1 I'm confused,com

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87633

 

so 10 Jan is Week 1 I'm confused,com

 

Yes, week 53 is carried over a year, because January 1st 2009 fell on a Thursday. :)

Edited December 24, 200915 yr by Ethan.

4th January 2009 (week-ending 10th January 2009) was when the 2009 YTDs began. I have the ChartsPlus issue in front of me that shows this. The Year to Date published in this issue matches the Top 75 positions of this week.

 

28th December 2008 (week-ending 3rd January 2009) was the last chart that counted towards the 2008 End of Year.

4th January 2009 was when the 2009 YTDs began. I have the ChartsPlus issue in front of me that shows this. The Year to Date published in this issue matches the Top 75 positions of this week.

 

:wacko: i.e. the chart w/e 10th January 2009; the 53rd week of 2008 counts as the 'first' of 2009 because New Years Day was on a Thursday...

 

51

52

 

++++++

 

53

1

2

etc

Actually I should have realise on MW, in their data section, Week 51 belongs to Rage Against The Machine, so goodness knows how I missed that

I'm sort of understanding it now, needing 53 weeks for some years to keep everything in balance. It just threw me that 3 weeks of Joe sales are counting. It is unusual for two weeks after Christmas week to count towards the end of year, it's usually just one.

There was a time when sales for YTD were calculated as calender years - as in up to 23:59 31st Dec.

 

What was wrong with that?

 

 

:wacko: i.e. the chart w/e 10th January 2009; the 53rd week of 2008 counts as the 'first' of 2009 because New Years Day was on a Thursday...

 

51

52

 

++++++

 

53

1

2

etc

 

you are just so COMPLETELY wrong that i'm not even going to bother arguing... the RATM were number 1 week 51. joe will be number 1 week 52. 3 weeks of sales for joe will count for the YTD, meaning week 53 is also included in the 2009 YTD. what is so hard to understand about that??!!

you are just so COMPLETELY wrong that i'm not even going to bother arguing... the RATM were number 1 week 51. joe will be number 1 week 52. 3 weeks of sales for joe will count for the YTD, meaning week 53 is also included in the 2009 YTD. what is so hard to understand about that??!!

 

What is hard to understand is that YOU ARE WRONG.

 

 

W/E 3rd January was 2008, week 52. W/E 10th January was 2009, week 1. W/E 2nd Jan 2010 (this week) is 2009, week 52. That is the correct answer.

Edited December 25, 200915 yr by BrayFish

If you can all just forget the dates for one moment, the main point of this thread, and why the question was raised, is because two whole weeks of sales after Christmas week are being said to count to 2009, that's where the confusion stems, but this is what ChartsPlus says is happening.

If you can all just forget the dates for one moment, the main point of this thread, and why the question was raised, is because two whole weeks of sales after Christmas week are being said to count to 2009, that's where the confusion stems, but this is what ChartsPlus says is happening.

 

As far as I'm aware, this week's chart show is instead counting down the Y/E chart - including sales from this week. That should be a definitive answer.

Well that's what I had presumed before ChartsPlus wrote differently, and RyanJL said something about it as well!

 

Seems Radio One and ChartsPlus will be giving is two different EOYs.

Well that's what I had presumed before ChartsPlus wrote differently, and RyanJL said something about it as well!

 

Seems Radio One and ChartsPlus will be giving is two different EOYs.

 

I think Radio 1 is a more reliable source, unless Reggie is doing it. Hopefully we won't have a Lupe Fiasco-esque screwup in the R1 Y/E chart this year.

#22 on R1, #67 officially.

Haha, that was a horrible error last year!

Just a quickie since I got 5mins

 

What a mess, well I know Week 51 belongs to Rage so Week 52 will belong to Joe according to the MW site, just have to wait now to see if there is Week 53 or Week 1 on MW site the week after that will iron things out.

 

And that is my only post for today, I'm off now. -_-

Quick post from me too.

 

Every time we have 5 days in the old year and 2 days the new year OCC (in the past), we have always had a week 53.

When it's 4 days in the old year and 3 days in the new year they end the year at week 52.

 

Charts Plus is produced by experienced chart fans who will know what's happened in previous years like this.

They get the YTD chart from OCC and publish it exactly as they get it. If they get a week 53 one in early Jan that's what they'll publish, giving an extra week's sales to all the Christmas hits.

Edited December 25, 200915 yr by Dave B

Years with 53 chart weeks in the 1990s and 2000s: 1992, 1998, 2004, 2009

 

The chart year for 2009 mirrors that of 2004, the last time that there were 53 chart weeks.

 

Week 1 in 2004 was coincidentally also week-ending 10th January. As 2004 was a leap year, week 53 was of course a day earlier than 2009 (week-ending 8th January).

Edited December 25, 200915 yr by SimonW

I think Radio 1 is a more reliable source, unless Reggie is doing it. Hopefully we won't have a Lupe Fiasco-esque screwup in the R1 Y/E chart this year.

#22 on R1, #67 officially.

 

Radio 1 aren't overly-concerned about getting the right YTD. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, in 2004 when Scissor Sisters became the #1 album of the year at the last minute , Radio 1 had already done their EOY chart a week before, and had "confirmed" Keane had the best-selling album of the year.

 

Although, doing the EOY chart early was less of a problem back then - considering how pitiful singles sales were in early January back then, any "Week 53" sales were unlikely to make any practical differences to the EOY standings. That's not the case now though. There might be a vague possibility of Joe McElderry climbing to #1 in the EOY chart in Week 53, which means that R1 might make the wrong announcement this weekend.

The OCC counted the Sales of the W/E 3rd January 2009 Chart, as

belonging to 2008. They saw/see it as the last Chart of 2008. Because

ALL of its Sales were in 2008. (They started 2009's Sales on W/E 10th

January).

 

The OCC count the Chart of W/E 2nd January 2010 as the final Chart

of 2009 - as its SALES are from Sunday 20th December to Saturday

26th December. NONE of its Sales are in 2010.

 

So, The OCC will 100% definitely add the Sales, from the Singles &

Albums Charts, for that Week - W/E 2nd January - to 2009.

 

As for the Chart of W/E 9th January 2010. The SALES for that Chart

are from Sunday 27th December to Saturday 2nd January - so FIVE

of its Sales Days are in 2009. However, The OCC would deem it rather

late to make the W/E 16th January Chart, the first of 2010, so they

will almost certainly count the W/E 9th January Chart, as the 1st of 2010.

 

In 2009, The OCC started the Sales Year with the W/E 10th January

Chart. The SALES for that Chart were from Sunday 28th December

to Saturday 3rd January - so 4 of its Sales Days were in 2008. However,

it would have been rather late to make the 1st Chart of 2009 the W/E

17th January Chart - so, they started with the 10th.

 

I also believe that today (26/12) is the last sales day of the 2009 chart year. ChartsPlus does say different (that the last sales day is Saturday 2 January 2010) but I don't know if that is an opinion that was expressed in C+ or whether they have been given official guidance. I'm guessing it is the former though I would love to be proved wrong and that sales for next week are included.