His cover's been blown in jail according to today's Sun. Other prisoners have found out who he is.

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I would bet that Thompson and Venables have paid far more in tax since being released than you have ever paid Chris

 

 

What the hell's that got to do with it? :rolleyes: I'm not a child-murderer like both of them are. :rolleyes:

If other prisoners have found out who he is purely for this then the law truly has failed. He should've gone into solitary confinement at least for his protection...

What the hell's that got to do with it? :rolleyes: I'm not a child-murderer like both of them are. :rolleyes:

That they have REFORMED and are contributing to society! :manson:

I agree completely with what Will Self said last night on Question Time... He made a very valid point about the way the media has distorted this whole sorry affair from day one and made out like Venables and Thomson were somehow worse than Mengele or Hitler and "superevil" and "born bad"... It's utter BOLLOCKS... Venables and Thomson are products of their environment... It's NURTURE, not nature.... Chances are that if they'd never met each other, then this whole sorry episode would never have occurred.. Self has said he read the transcripts of the trial and that he detected no malice an forethought... I can believe that, they were just two fukked-up kids from a fukked-up, deprived neighbourhood neglected due to years of Thatherism (and yeah I DO think her and the Tories are partly responsible for creating the conditions for this tragedy to occur through their selfish, "no such thing as society, neo-liberalist, arch-capitalist ethos which doesn't give a damn about the ordinary person), who had fukked-up parents who treated them like they were nothing..

 

It probably would've been better in a way that they'd never been born at all, because, let's face it, no child deserves to have parents like they had, no child deserves to be brought up in that sort of environment..

 

What people need to understand is that someone on a "Life Licence" can be put back into prison for the most minor of infractions, this was established on Question Time last night... Even if he'd not paid his Coucil Tax, TV Licence or a Parking ticket, a minor breach of the peace even, he would be sent back to prison immediately.... A fight at work???? Well, fukk me, who hasn't had problems at work FFS.....? Oh, probably Crazy Chris actually come to think of it, seeing as how he doesn't work, so how would he know.....? :rolleyes: And a small amount of cocaine?? Well, all things considered, plenty of people have taken drugs to escape their own realities for far less of a reason....

 

But really, it's all idle speculation, nothing's confirmed....

What the hell's that got to do with it? :rolleyes: I'm not a child-murderer like both of them are. :rolleyes:

 

No, but you are a total hypocrite banging on about the "tax payer's expense" when you yourself are more of a fukkin' drain on it..... <_<

 

GET A JOB, then you can moan about things "costing the taxpayer"... Until then, any comment you make with regards to that is just a deliberate wind-up.... -_-

In answer to Grimley's first post after mine. So many people blame those boys' upbringings and okay I agree it probably played a part. How do you explain though that there are thousands of feral kids being dragged up, abused, beaten and seeing warring partners etc, and living on rough housing estates yet THEY DON'T GO OUT AND MURDER TWO YEAR-OLDS. Can't just be upbringing alone then can it? You have to be a very evil child surely to do that? Will someone please address this point of mine. If it was just upbringing we'd have 10 year-olds committing horrific crimes every week.

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lol.. exactly what i was thinking, so just who is the bigger drain on us taxpayers?

 

as for reforming crims.... yes im all for it if it can be acheived, the problem arises though as to just ARE they reformed? i think some people are too damaged, too ill, no remorse.

 

I do agree with this. Although I strongly believe the justice system should focus on rehabilitation generally, I do believe some people shouldn't be given the chance at it. For instance, my dad works on the Northern Irish Parole Board, and just the other day, he helped release some guy who's been in jail for 25 years for killing two friends in an argument (he had no psycholgical problems and, from what I gather, there weren't really any extenuating circumstances; it was simply cold-blooded murder). He's only in his mid-40s now so he potentially has many years of a free life ahead of him. I personally don't believe people like that should ever be released. Ian Huntley is one who comes to mind who I don't want to ever see come out.

 

But I make a clear distinction between people like that and Venables/Thompson. There WERE special circumstances that need to be taken into account with them and, because there is strong evidence that they simply couldn't determine right from wrong, I don't think they should be held responsible for their actions. They were rightly put away at the time because they clearly weren't fit for society, but presuming they were fully rehabilitated and learnt how to function in society (and getting into one fight at work or a cocaine habit doesn't necessarily indicate that he isn't rehabilitated generally) then they have every right to lead a free life.

No, but you are a total hypocrite banging on about the "tax payer's expense" when you yourself are more of a fukkin' drain on it..... <_<

 

GET A JOB, then you can moan about things "costing the taxpayer"... Until then, any comment you make with regards to that is just a deliberate wind-up.... -_-

 

I've never mentioned tax-payers expense in this thread. Don't think so anyway. I said they should have stayed in jail for their entire lives as proper punishment. Surely that would cost millions yet I'm advocating it.

In answer to Grimley's first post after mine. So many people blame those boys' upbringings and okay I agree it probably played a part. How do you explain though that there are thousands of feral kids being dragged up, abused, beaten and seeing warring partners etc, and living on rough housing estates yet THEY DON'T GO OUT AND MURDER TWO YEAR-OLDS. Can't just be upbringing alone then can it? You have to be a very evil child surely to do that? Will someone please address this point of mine. If it was just upbringing we'd have 10 year-olds committing horrific crimes every week.

 

simple.... does it really have to be spelt out to you?...

 

everybody is different, everybody reacts to similar situations in differing manners. the chances are that children who are born into families like that WILL in some way be disruptive to society and cause trouble. they might not all be child killers, but theyll commit violent acts, drugs, drink, theivery, sexual abusers etc.

 

those boys were taught nothing but violence, thats what they grew up with, they see it as 'the norm' because thats all they learned. id suggest the ones who are REALLY to blame for bulgers death was their parents.

 

im all for giving chances to people who have been wrongly brought up, if any person who has committed evil genuinely repents and wants to change, them im 100% behind them.

His cover's been blown in jail according to today's Sun. Other prisoners have found out who he is.

 

And the reason The Sun know that is because they'll have been talking to every contact they have at every prison offering money in exchange for information. Expect a front page special detailing his new identity, where he is and how long he'll be there. Then information on how lynch mobs can hire a portable gallows.

 

The public does not have a right to know this information and the $h!te, $h!te, $h!te red top media have even less.

And the reason The Sun know that is because they'll have been talking to every contact they have at every prison offering money in exchange for information. Expect a front page special detailing his new identity, where he is and how long he'll be there. Then information on how lynch mobs can hire a portable gallows.

 

The public does not have a right to know this information and the $h!te, $h!te, $h!te red top media have even less.

If they do that I hope they get the biggest fine ever imposed for contempt of court as well as jail sentences for the journalists responsible.

If they do that I hope they get the biggest fine ever imposed for contempt of court as well as jail sentences for the journalists responsible.

 

I completely agree. In today's society Rupert Murdoch Inc is a far greater, more adverse danger on today's Western World society than Islamic terrorists are.

 

Today, I've read the latest allegations on the net with regards to Thompson & Venables in The Scum & The Daily Heil and quite frankly I don't want to repeat them because until they are factually confirmed they are just tittle tattle and propaganda.

I completely agree. In today's society Rupert Murdoch Inc is a far greater, more adverse danger on today's Western World society than Islamic terrorists are.

 

Today, I've read the latest allegations on the net with regards to Thompson & Venables in The Scum & The Daily Heil and quite frankly I don't want to repeat them because until they are factually confirmed they are just tittle tattle and propaganda.

 

I've only read of the 'the sun' contribution via aol this morning and I agree. Given the prominence of this case however ... its worse than tittle tattle. I mean ... any old lag could have given them the 'exact details' as they claim to have uncovered ... given that the the suns's 'reporters' (and I use the term loosely as they 'report' nothing) would pay anyone to incriminate their own mothers if it'd give them a juicy story!

 

Norma

According to today's Sun it's an "alleged serious sexual offence" but they can't reveal any more as they've been threatened with legal action if they do. So lock him up for good now then. That's hardly minor is it? Far far worse than an altercation with a workmate. So much for them having been "rehabilitated" then. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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According to today's Sun it's a "serious sexual offence" but they can't reveal any more as they've been threatened with legal action if they do. So lock him up for good now then. That's hardly minor is it? Far far worse than an altercation with a workmate.

You've obviously missed the word "alleged".

You've obviously missed the word "alleged".

 

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You've obviously missed the word "alleged".

 

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It's still precisely because of the ignorant attitude you've displayed - i.e. pronounce him guilty of an unknown offence without the bother of a trial - that the press cannot reveal details. There is too high a risk that members of a jury in any trial which may result will declare him guilty simply because of who he is.