When I saw the front page headline I came home and looked at the story on their website. I don't read it or look at their site every week. Anyway is it a crime to read the NOTW?

And did the NOTW say how they got their story? More illegal phone tapping perhaps. Or did they just make it up?

And did the NOTW say how they got their story? More illegal phone tapping perhaps. Or did they just make it up?

 

 

I have no idea. Hey Suedy ring and ask them!!! :naughty:

strongly disagree danny, as a parent its your responsibility to watch over your child every waking minute, accident happen in an instant so a responsible parent HAS to have eyes in the back of their head at all times. it might be unpalatable to some, but a portion of the blame lies at HER door and i reckon her ott rantings recently are because she wants to cover that fact up. shift the blame..

 

Can I just say Rob ... that I think you're being a bit harsh here. A few years back I went to Birkenhead shopping and for a brief 30 seconds I lost sight of my kid in Primark! They were the most agonising few seconds of my life and seemed like hours ... and sometimes things can happen in the blink of an eye. I was lucky ... he was hiding behind some size 12 leggings! Others aren't so fortunate! I get annoyed at Denise's 'rantings' sometimes but not for one second do I think she's 'shifting the blame' ... for me she is the only one in this who has any right to feel outrage at whatever happens to Venables and Thompson. If it were me ... and my child had been killed ... I'd want nothing more than to kill the little bast*rds ... with my own hands ... whether they wer 10, 7, 9, 13 or 27! However ... the grief and anger is hers, as the mother ... not anyone else's. What I don't get is all this 'vigilante' justice spouting that comes from people who have nothing to do with this at all. It is so easy of us as 'watchers' to sit back and blame either side.

 

Having said all of that ... as an 'observer' I can say that I agree with the woman who said that they should never have been tried in an adult court.

 

Norma

How does dropping the charges necessarily mean that he 'gets away with it'? :manson: Have you not stopped to consider in your thick skull a slight mitigating factor called LACK OF EVIDENCE?

 

What precisely could they jail him for, if the charges of him doing something wrong have been dropped?

 

Precisely.. The Screws was the one claiming it's Child Porn, NO ONE ELSE HAS.... There's simply no evidence... The "child" porn may in fact be women over 18 dressed up in School-girl uniforms FFS.... :rolleyes: On first glance, this MAY be interpreted as Child Porn, when in fact it's not...

 

The Screws and every other Tabloid really have a nerve getting all "moralistic" about this IMO, yeah, like they NEVER print pics of "Glamour Models" dressed up as school-girls do they.... Oh, and the Scum never ran a series of features on Sam Fox and the "Countdown" til she was old enough to get her baps out for their slimy rag did they...? Oh, wait a minute, they DID!!!! <_<

 

So, the actual FACT, the real story here is more than likely "Single Bloke Looks At Internet Porn".... Wooooooooooo, stop the fukkin' presses..... -_-

Is Jon the married one, or is that Thompson?

Can I just say Rob ... that I think you're being a bit harsh here. A few years back I went to Birkenhead shopping and for a brief 30 seconds I lost sight of my kid in Primark! They were the most agonising few seconds of my life and seemed like hours ... and sometimes things can happen in the blink of an eye. I was lucky ... he was hiding behind some size 12 leggings! Others aren't so fortunate! I get annoyed at Denise's 'rantings' sometimes but not for one second do I think she's 'shifting the blame' ... for me she is the only one in this who has any right to feel outrage at whatever happens to Venables and Thompson. If it were me ... and my child had been killed ... I'd want nothing more than to kill the little bast*rds ... with my own hands ... whether they wer 10, 7, 9, 13 or 27! However ... the grief and anger is hers, as the mother ... not anyone else's. What I don't get is all this 'vigilante' justice spouting that comes from people who have nothing to do with this at all. It is so easy of us as 'watchers' to sit back and blame either side.

 

Having said all of that ... as an 'observer' I can say that I agree with the woman who said that they should never have been tried in an adult court.

 

Norma

 

Denise Fergus (nee Bulger) actually has more culpability.. She didn't just "lose sight of him", apparently, Jamie was acting up, being naughty (ie, just acting like any bored toddler would do...) and, as "punishment" she made him wait outside a shop while she was inside... So, you tell me... Is she partly responsible IF this is the case.. Personally I think she is, and it's a clear cut case of child neglect, JUST LIKE THE FUKKIN' McCANNS!!!....

 

And I agree with Rob totally, all her acting up in the Press saying this person or that person should be sacked... It's not only fukkin' ridiculous to call for and expert to be sacked for merely expressing an expert opinion (and a correct one at that if one looks at this objectively), it's just to compensate for her own guilt that she didn't take the proper care of her own child if you ask me....

 

Some people dont like to say this, but some people are basically just rotten parents and should be bloody well sterilized before they can fukk up some innocent kid's life.... I dont care how Un-PC that sounds....

Is Jon the married one, or is that Thompson?

 

Not sure tbh...

 

Anyway.... Yeah, like married men dont look at Porn do they......? :lol: :lol:

firstly, Isn't Saisbury's a bit high brow/expensive for you Chris? My tax money won't go far in there.

 

secondly, i actually agree with Mushy/Grimly. She is partially liable. She made that poor boy wait outside, if she'd taken him in with her the chances of this happening are much less.

secondly, i actually agree with Mushy/Grimly. She is partially liable. She made that poor boy wait outside, if she'd taken him in with her the chances of this happening are much less.

 

My parents were "old school". When I was a toddler I was one one of those "kiddie leash" (cant think of the proper name for the moment) things... Straight up... :lol: My folks had to have eyes like a hawk with me cos I WOULD wander off otherwise... Any kid that age would... It's natural curiosity.. Denise Bulger obviously never read any kind of Parenting books or manuals.. If she had, she'd've known that and taken the appropriate counter-measures....

 

I think people seriously need to take Parenting Classes in order to become parents and a Psychological/Emotional suitability test.. You fail, you get the snip, end of....

 

Not sure tbh...

 

Anyway.... Yeah, like married men dont look at Porn do they......? :lol: :lol:

 

 

Thompson's in a gay relationship and his partner knows about his past. What an idiot. :rolleyes: What sane man or woman wants to share his or her life with a child killer? :rolleyes:

Thompson's in a gay relationship and his partner knows about his past. What an idiot. :rolleyes: What sane man or woman wants to share his or her life with a child killer? :rolleyes:

What does it matter if they're a completely different person to how they were when they committed the killing?

Thompson's in a gay relationship and his partner knows about his past. What an idiot. :rolleyes: What sane man or woman wants to share his or her life with a child killer? :rolleyes:

 

Yeah, and how the fukk do we know ANY of that is actually true, because the Screws and the Scum says so....? <_<

 

Frankly, I've not read any of this sh!t, and I dont care to read idle gossip and stupidity coming from the gutter press.... Frankly, it's none of our business...

 

What does it matter if they're a completely different person to how they were when they committed the killing?

 

 

Well most normal men or women would run a mile if he or she said "Oh by the way I'm one of the Bulger killers" :o :o

Yeah, and how the fukk do we know ANY of that is actually true, because the Screws and the Scum says so....? <_<

 

Frankly, I've not read any of this sh!t, and I dont care to read idle gossip and stupidity coming from the gutter press.... Frankly, it's none of our business...

 

 

It was widely reported about three years ago Scott.

It was widely reported about three years ago Scott.

 

But, how would they know..? Who told them..? It's all guesswork and second-hand rumours, Chinese Whispers and tittle tattle....

 

Ever hear of a thing called "Mis-direction"...?

 

Well most normal men or women would run a mile if he or she said "Oh by the way I'm one of the Bulger killers" :o :o

I'm presuming he didn't open with this line. On the contrary, I'm willing to bet most normal people (i.e. non-reactionaries who have a pragmatic view of the world - that there are various shades of grey rather than EVIL/GOOD) wouldn't care if they'd already fallen in love with someone who had clearly changed...

I'm presuming he didn't open with this line. On the contrary, I'm willing to bet most normal people (i.e. non-reactionaries who have a pragmatic view of the world - that there are various shades of grey rather than EVIL/GOOD) wouldn't care if they'd already fallen in love with someone who had clearly changed...

 

 

Well they do say LOVE IS BLIND. :(

Well most normal men or women would run a mile if he or she said "Oh by the way I'm one of the Bulger killers" :o :o

 

You've obviously never heard about all these women who write to convicted murderers on Death Row... Some of them very intelligent, "normal", sane women... Or indeed men...

 

What about Lord Longford who wanted to parole Myra Hindley and genuinely believed she was a reformed character away from the influence of Ian Brady..? Was he somehow "abnormal" or stupid? Of course not, just perhaps gullible, but certainly not stupid...

Denise Fergus (nee Bulger) actually has more culpability.. She didn't just "lose sight of him", apparently, Jamie was acting up, being naughty (ie, just acting like any bored toddler would do...) and, as "punishment" she made him wait outside a shop while she was inside...

 

If this is true, then, although I wouldn't say she was more culpable, I would say she is partially to blame... but I've never heard of it before (though admittedly I was too young to actually follow the story at the time it was originally around). And although I've been defending her right to criticise the government/Venables/Thompson until now, I do think she took it too far by calling for that children's commissioner to resign.

 

 

Thompson's in a gay relationship and his partner knows about his past. What an idiot. What sane man or woman wants to share his or her life with a child killer?

 

If I was in a long-term relationship with someone and they told me they killed someone when they were 10, then if I was convinced they were truly reformed, I'd like to think I'd stay with them.

 

You seem to be under the impression that Venables and Thompson are the only children to have ever killed anyone. They aren't. The only reason we don't hear about most of them is because most aren't as "made-for-TV" as the Bulger case (CCTV coverage meaning we could see the lead-up to the murder "as it happened" :rolleyes: ).