April 22, 201015 yr If they have no chance of getting in power then there is no point in giving them my vote. To be honest, I think they have all been useless is trying to win the under 25.
April 22, 201015 yr There are other parties remember!! :) You mean the party that will kick out by force anyone with a non white face despite what their manifesto says ? (I am assuming that the person that asked the question is not white from his user name) The party with strong links to loyalist terror groups particularly Johnny Adair and who's security is provided by Combat 18 one of whom's founders blew up a gay bar and is serving a life mean's life sentence
April 22, 201015 yr Can I be guaranteed a better financial position if I vote Tories. I am definetely not voting Labour anyway. Four years at uni with several internships and all I can get in Scotland is a $h!tty office job. I'm having to move to England in a few months for a proper job as Scotland can't provide this. You're in Scotland currently? Then it's the SNP and Labour you have to blame.
April 22, 201015 yr You're in Scotland currently? Then it's the SNP and Labour you have to blame. Yeh I'm in Scotland right now unfortunately, quite possibly the worst place to live outside third world countries. I guess SNP scrapped that graduated endowment fee so I'm blaming Labour :P
April 22, 201015 yr Vote conservative Labour's jobs tax (1% NI rise) will not help the business climate and also a vote for the Lib Dems means 5 more years of Brown as Lib Dems will do a deal with Brown LMAO. Yeah, the Conservatives are really going to help save jobs.... by immediately cutting jobs in the public sector Anyway, if the poster lives in Scotland, then there's little point in voting for them even if s/he agrees with their policies, because the Tories aren't in the running in almost every Scottish constituency.
April 22, 201015 yr LMAO. Yeah, the Conservatives are really going to help save jobs.... by immediately cutting jobs in the public sector Anyway, if the poster lives in Scotland, then there's little point in voting for them even if s/he agrees with their policies, because the Tories aren't in the running in almost every Scottish constituency. I'm moving to England in September. In relation to politics the only thing I care about is under what government will I earn the most money. I couldn't care less about immigration etc.
April 22, 201015 yr I'm moving to England in September. In relation to politics the only thing I care about is under what government will I earn the most money. I couldn't care less about immigration etc. You have 2 choices really Labour Lib Dem which will be a partnership with Labour Conservative If you like Brown and what he has done for this country give him another 5 years, if you want change then vote Conservative, a Lib Dem vote is a vote for Labour and more of the same
April 22, 201015 yr Author You mean the party that will kick out by force anyone with a non white face despite what their manifesto says ? (I am assuming that the person that asked the question is not white from his user name) The party with strong links to loyalist terror groups particularly Johnny Adair and who's security is provided by Combat 18 one of whom's founders blew up a gay bar and is serving a life mean's life sentence Did I name any other party? Just trying to keep it PC that's all. :)
April 22, 201015 yr You have 2 choices really Labour Lib Dem which will be a partnership with Labour Conservative If you like Brown and what he has done for this country give him another 5 years, if you want change then vote Conservative, a Lib Dem vote is a vote for Labour and more of the same It is looking like it will have to be the Tories then. It is just a shame that I find all three of them vile. Brown and Blair have ruined the UK so I won't be voting Labour.
April 22, 201015 yr Did I name any other party? Just trying to keep it PC that's all. :) It was obvious what you meant given the fact you said yesterday you are planning to vote for the BNP Given the person you replied to has an asian name it was perhaps not the most tasteful of suggestions from you even if you did not name them
April 22, 201015 yr :lol: It is ok. I would never be voting for the BNP anyway even if you paid me and cleared my student debt :lol:
April 22, 201015 yr Author It was obvious what you meant given the fact you said yesterday you are planning to vote for the BNP Given the person you replied to has an asian name it was perhaps not the most tasteful of suggestions from you even if you did not name them Erm UKIP, Greens, Monster Raving Looney Party? Was nothing to do with his name at all so don't read more in to it. :rolleyes: Was actually a little dig at Broadcasters who always flash the names of every candidate up when talking about just one of them! Edited April 22, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew
April 22, 201015 yr Vote conservative Labour's jobs tax (1% NI rise) will not help the business climate and also a vote for the Lib Dems means 5 more years of Brown as Lib Dems will do a deal with Brown If the opinion polls prove to be correct then Clegg would be perfectly justified in saying that any deal with Labour would involve him being PM even if Labour had more ministers in total. Vote Clegg, get Clegg. It really is time the arrogance of both Labour and Tories thinking that only they have any right to govern was ended.
April 22, 201015 yr You have 2 choices really Labour Lib Dem which will be a partnership with Labour Conservative If you like Brown and what he has done for this country give him another 5 years, if you want change then vote Conservative, a Lib Dem vote is a vote for Labour and more of the same Will you stop peddling that rubbish? If you really think that perhaps it's time you stopped supporting our ridiculous electoral system. A system which could see the winners coming third and the party that comes third being declared the winners. As you keep repeating your message, I'll repeat mine. If the Lib Dems get more votes than Labour they would have every right to insist that any Lib Dem / Labour administration is led by Nick Clegg.
April 22, 201015 yr Will you stop peddling that rubbish? If you really think that perhaps it's time you stopped supporting our ridiculous electoral system. A system which could see the winners coming third and the party that comes third being declared the winners. As you keep repeating your message, I'll repeat mine. If the Lib Dems get more votes than Labour they would have every right to insist that any Lib Dem / Labour administration is led by Nick Clegg. Our electoral system is fine, doesn't need changing, its served us well for centuries there really is no need to erase a long standing system just to convenience one party. Votes are irrelevant it is seats that count, every party has the same number of candidates in the same number of constituencies, it is a level playing field, if Lib Dem win the most SEATS then they deserve to form the next government if they don't then no way should someone who's party got for arguments sake 100 seats in this election lord it over parties that got 3 times that.
April 22, 201015 yr Yeh I'm in Scotland right now unfortunately, quite possibly the worst place to live outside third world countries. I guess SNP scrapped that graduated endowment fee so I'm blaming Labour :P Right, in that case ignore what Craig [b.A. Baracus] is saying as it's less relevant than Cuntface Salmond is on the international stage. You have three choices in Scotland. Labour, SNP and Liberal Democrat. Labour have made a mess of everything and need to go, SNP aren't much better. IIRC the scrapage of the Graduate Endowment was only opposed by a party [either Tory or Labour can't mind which] The best choice you have is LibDem. A vote for Conservative in Scotland is about as much use as a vote for Greens, UKIP, BNP et al. They have a seat, they are hated up here and aren't likely to get any more than 3seats. Your best option is to go with LibDem. Contrary to Craigs scaremongering the LibDems haven't said they would pair up with anyone. A vote for them is a vote for electoral change that will stop this $h!tty two party system and allow someone new into a position of power who can actually offer us something new instead of the same bull$h!t with a different cabinet. Craig's English, it's a whole different ball game in this $h!t hole.
April 22, 201015 yr Our electoral system is fine, doesn't need changing, its served us well for centuries there really is no need to erase a long standing system just to convenience one party. Votes are irrelevant it is seats that count, every party has the same number of candidates in the same number of constituencies, it is a level playing field, if Lib Dem win the most SEATS then they deserve to form the next government if they don't then no way should someone who's party got for arguments sake 100 seats in this election lord it over parties that got 3 times that. How is it a level playing field when a party with fairly even support across the country is punished by the system while a party whose support is concentrated in certain areas benefits? Surely, if anything, it should be the other way round.
April 22, 201015 yr Sky News is Channel 82 on Freeview :cheer: Watching the preshow bit. Why are politicians full of $h!t?
April 22, 201015 yr How is it a level playing field when a party with fairly even support across the country is punished by the system while a party whose support is concentrated in certain areas benefits? Surely, if anything, it should be the other way round. If it stops a party as immorally liberal as the LibDems then I applaud that system. Today has proven once and for all that "Saint" Nick Clegg is perhaps a bigger idiot than the UKIP leader Nigel Farage except he is far less funny. Kim Jong-il torpedoes Nick Clegg's disarmament policy below the waterline By Gerald Warner World Last updated: April 22nd, 2010 Daily Telegraph.co.uk When you are president of the local chapter of Obamamania, preaching a Hope ’n’ Change doctrine and preparing to tell millions of television viewers “Let’s abolish all our horrid nuclear weapons and turn the scrap metal into wind turbines, then we’ll see what nice guys all these foreign dictators whose languages I speak like a native really are”, the last thing you want to hear is that North Korea’s leading (and only) gourmet, Kim Jong-il, has slammed a torpedo into a South Korean warship and sent it to the bottom, along with 46 crew members. It somehow discredits the Unilateral Disarmament You Can Believe In message that Nick Clegg has been trying to get across. Even bearded peaceniks pull their duffel-coats more tightly around them and shudder at this momentary glimpse of the one terrain that has rigorously been excluded from this election campaign, whether in economics or defence: the Real World. It is obvious that the South Korean and American governments obscured the fact that a Communist torpedo had sunk the South Korean corvette Cheonan, back on 26 March, for fear of provoking a furious reaction. The Blue House, the seat of power in Seoul, is struggling to confect a response; the White House, the seat of impotence under the benign rule of President Pantywaist, is empty because His Hopeandchangefulness prefers to spend his time these days on the golf course. PR managers have finally reluctantly recognised that a “fire in the engine room” does not account for a 1,200-tonne warship being cut in two. Kim Jong-il, for his part, has just made the same intoxicating discovery that Adolf Hitler relished as he drove through cheering crowds in Prague: the more extravagant the provocation, the greater the immunity from retaliation by peace-loving democracies. But the vessel that is now taking on water is Her Majesty’s PM-in-Waiting Clegg: his heavy list to port on defence matters may scuttle his hopes tonight. If there is no demonstrable threat to Britain at the moment to which Trident is the response, that is an irrelevant consideration. A good defence policy is not predicated upon present danger, but on what may threaten 10, 20, 30 or even 50 years from now. With Iran pursuing nuclear armaments undeterred, North Korea openly seeking war, anti-Western terrorist groups becoming ever more sophisticated and hell-bent on going nuclear, we would be insane to disarm. So impenetrable is the future that the crazies already named will almost certainly be replaced by even more menacing forces such as we cannot presently conceive, to which Trident might well be the only deterrent. We can take nothing for granted, not even continuing American hegemony. David Cameron’s gaffe allusion to China in the first televised debate could turn out, in a future where the present leadership of that nuclear state is supplanted by warlordism or heaven knows what unpredictable forces, to be accidentally prescient. Of course, what will actually exercise the television audience and media commentators will not be realpolitik, but the colour of Clegg’s tie, the look of Dave’s hair and which hominid in the palaeontological pantheon Gordon most resembles as he knuckle-trails his way through Britain’s foreign policy. For those viewers of a more thoughtful disposition, however, it is Clegg’s nudist defence policy that has been torpedoed below the waterline by Kim Jong-il. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the day that North Korea has sunk a South Korean military boat killing all 46 crew; the LibDems Unilateral disarmament policy is grossly offensively to my morality. Furthermore, having heard about the newspaper headlines regarding his holier than thou attitude with regards to the Churchill War effort against the tyranny of Nazi Germany. Where in a Guardian interview in 2002 he regarded Winston Churchill as a war criminal for the bombing of Dresden; and that the UK atrocities were worse than Germany. Because hey the British tried to exterminate an entire religious race (of six million Jews) didn't they. :rolleyes: And hearing about his appearance on Radio 1 where with one of the more irrelevant questions he backed the radical Islamic Clerics rights to be grossly offended by this week's 200th episode of South Park which showed the prophet Mohammed disguised in a cuddly teddy bear costume which has resulted in a Fatwa being launched against creators Matt Stone & Trey Parker by an Iranian cleric. If Clegg and his bunch of lefties gets their way the UK would be reduced to sending stern letters to any tinpot dictator that decided to flex his muscles. His alternative of course is his paymasters in Brussels. But the EU (of which Clegg is of course a fully paid up and £450K pension holding member) would not even do that…much too provocative. What if someone got upset? Is that really the best future for Britain? If I had a choice between voting UKIP, BNP or LibDem, then voting LibDem would definitely be my distant last choice. :angry:
April 22, 201015 yr We don't need to replace trident. We can not be reached by an Iranian or Korean missile. We don't need nuclear weapons
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