I've no idea what No.1 sounds like - in fact about 70% of the top 40. For me it's an age thing - I never thought I would be like this but here I am at 35 and am way behind chartwise

The popularity of the UK chart is subjctive to the listner.

 

B.o.B. feat. Bruno Mars = Excellent. For me, this is a brilliant track, catchy memorable chorus with a strong melody and very appealing to me. It sounds like it could be Outkast singing but who cares when the song itself is strong.

 

Iyaz = 'Replay' was good. It sounded original and fresh without sounding bloody awful and cringe. 'Solo' rips off 'Again' by Janet Jackson and isn't even half as good as 'Replay'. I don't understand the tracks appeal but there's clearly Americanized British teenagers who all things "like...soooo American". -_-

 

Usher = 'OMG' is crap, imo. Why? Because like 'Solo' it's relied too much on another song ('Boom Boom Pow'). I mean, the first time I heard 'OMG' it was all going ok until I heard the low pitched "let the beat rroooocccckkk". Then I sighed because this was textbook 'BBP'. I didn't even think 'BBP' was that good but at least in 2009 it was different. 'OMG' in 2010 isn't.

 

Jason Derulo = Whilst he has the most bizzare vocals (not as horrid as Chris Brown), I actually think 'Ridin' Solo' is his best song so far. I never got the appeal of 'Whatcha Say' or 'In My Head'. That doesn't mean I think 'RS' is genius because it isn't. It just appeals to me more.

 

Dizzee Rascal = If he's the new Westlife then what a refreshing change. Well, if I had to rank of all Westlife's and Dizzee's singles in order I'm certain that 'Dirtee Disco' would rank higher than 95% of Westlife's dirge. Yes, it's not exactly brilliant but I can tolerate it. At least it doesn't rip off another song (not that I'm aware of :unsure: ). "disco disco disco disco" could well be taken from the 2 Unlimited book of lyrics "techno techno techno techno". If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :D

I've no idea what No.1 sounds like - in fact about 70% of the top 40. For me it's an age thing - I never thought I would be like this but here I am at 35 and am way behind chartwise

 

It makes me think of 1995 when Outhere Brothers were the big act in the UK. I was 14 at the time and everyone I knew my age thought they were brilliant. I'm sure there were 29 year olds in 1995 who despised them.

 

So fast forward 15 years and now I'm the 29 year old and I think Tinie Tempah is crap. Those 14 year olds who currently think he's the best thing to happen to music will experience a "what goes around...comes around" moment in 15 years. They'll be like us and thinking "wtf is this crap". Babies being born today will love "this crap" in 15 years time. :lol:

At least it doesn't rip off another song (not that I'm aware of :unsure: ). "disco disco disco disco" could well be taken from the 2 Unlimited book of lyrics "techno techno techno techno". If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :D

It samples the popular song, can't remember the name of it.

 

I don't have any problems with the urban music but the quantities of lazy samples and rip-offs are disgusting really. The apogee of it is 'I Need You Tonight' by INXS Professor Green.

 

Where is all originality, are the current acts so talentless to produce something entirely new?

Edited May 25, 201015 yr by Arrs

If people like urban than thats okay, though I do think thiere is a bit much urban clogging up the charts recently. The charts are best when there is variety-a bit of pop, dance, indie aswell as urban for people who like those other genres.

*sigh*

What I wonder is if BuzzJack would get tired in the same way if all urban died and suddenly everything in the top 10 was pop. Like, a pop invasion on the same scale as the urban invasion, set to last forever. Would there ever be this much uproar?

 

My point being BJ as a whole seems to hate urban genres too much.

Anyway, the chart show desperately needs improvement, and Reggie needs to be sacked now.

Not really the best example as pop music has always been the dominant genre. Even most of the top 10 now as someone else said has very clear pop elements in it.

 

If people like urban than thats okay, though I do think thiere is a bit much urban clogging up the charts recently. The charts are best when there is variety-a bit of pop, dance, indie aswell as urban for people who like those other genres.

Agreed. I have no problem with urban music (I even like the current #1) but when it starts shutting out songs from other genres then it's getting to a ridiculous point.

Not really the best example as pop music has always been the dominant genre. Even most of the top 10 now as someone else said has very clear pop elements in it.

 

I mean 100% pure pop with no dance/rock/urban influences.

As someone said, a lot of the songs charting at the moment, sound like previous songs. And some of them are not even very old at all. Like there's OMG, which sounds just like Boom Boom Pow (infact, it goes further and actually samples the song!). To be fair though, Will.i.am did both songs.

 

Then soon, Gettin' Over You will be popular, which also sounds like Boom Boom Pow (and also like I Gotta Feeling and Missing You I reckon). They have the same vocalist (Fergie), and she sings an almost identical line in both songs at one point, which doesn't help to dispel the similarities (something like "People in the place, gotta get down"). Also, I Gotta Feeling and Gettin' Over You were both done by David Guetta, which might explain some simiarities there.

 

And The Club is Alive sounds like Boom Boom Pow, and that's going to be popular soon.

 

Nice to see the impact that the Black Eyed Peas and also Lady Gaga are having on the music scene, but I'd like to see something newer. Let's be honest though, it's probably right to mimic their styles. They both got 3 number-ones last year. They both had 3 singles selling over 700,000 (not even 1 single seems set to achieve that yet this year, and we're in May). And they constantly had songs in the top 10. I'm not sure about Lady Gaga, but the Black Eyed Peas had a song in the top 10 non-stop from May to January, if I remember correctly. At various points, they had 2.

Edited May 25, 201015 yr by Eric_Blob

Urban is ok but there is a lot of it at the moment, and as some have said, its not even good Urban music. It doesn't help that its Reggie's favourite genre either because he makes it awfully evident. I've listened to the chart and heard him praising some Urban producers that I've never heard of as if everyone knows who they are. I know Fearne had a thing for Indie bands but she was never this bad. I hated when the two of them did the chart but now Reggie appears to have nothing to do on his own I honestly don't know how they fill the charts. He doesn't play every song, but neither did Wes or JK & Joel but they had lots of interesting features like a decent length album chart and a retro. Some features under Reggie have included:

 

1) the inane chatter-low point being when he and Fearne asked listeners to text in and talk about what they've had stuck up their nose.

2) Rihanecdotes-blatantly racist feature making of the way a woman whose first language is not English speaks the language.

3) Chart trivia-you know this is crap when the question is 'In 2006, what did Corinne Bailey Rae perform in the Live Lounge?' Chart related how?

 

And so I conclude its not just the Urban stuff putting me off the charts. I'd probably get into all of it but the show itself is so disorganised with such an irritating presenter that its practically unlistenable so its no surprise I haven't tuned in for weeks

 

 

And one more thing-I'm sure if Producer Adele had something to say she'd say it? I'm sick of Reggie mentioning her!

tbh, I care more about the Irish charts for the first time ever! bring back Fearne :angry:

Too much Urban staying too long in top 10 ? Could it be the iTunes affect ? 12 to 20 year olds hitting iTunes and just downloading the top 10 once a month or even every week. Just makes sure they have all the latest most popular tunes on their iPhones/iTouches, keep up with their mates. Was surprised when i heard this from one such 20yr old !! Just a thought ?

Urban is ok but there is a lot of it at the moment, and as some have said, its not even good Urban music. It doesn't help that its Reggie's favourite genre either because he makes it awfully evident. I've listened to the chart and heard him praising some Urban producers that I've never heard of as if everyone knows who they are. I know Fearne had a thing for Indie bands but she was never this bad. I hated when the two of them did the chart but now Reggie appears to have nothing to do on his own I honestly don't know how they fill the charts. He doesn't play every song, but neither did Wes or JK & Joel but they had lots of interesting features like a decent length album chart and a retro. Some features under Reggie have included:

 

1) the inane chatter-low point being when he and Fearne asked listeners to text in and talk about what they've had stuck up their nose.

2) Rihanecdotes-blatantly racist feature making of the way a woman whose first language is not English speaks the language.

3) Chart trivia-you know this is crap when the question is 'In 2006, what did Corinne Bailey Rae perform in the Live Lounge?' Chart related how?

 

And so I conclude its not just the Urban stuff putting me off the charts. I'd probably get into all of it but the show itself is so disorganised with such an irritating presenter that its practically unlistenable so its no surprise I haven't tuned in for weeks

And one more thing-I'm sure if Producer Adele had something to say she'd say it? I'm sick of Reggie mentioning her!

 

Lots of reasons there why I NEVER listen to R1 anymore and haven't for years (never convinced they weren't racist when they refused to play Shakira 4 years ago so to hear they may still be airing maybe racist attitudes sickens me)

I think the key issues are as follows:

 

1. The lack of profile of the charts on the BBC. From the 1960s through to the early 21st Century you had on TV the flagship show Top Of The Pops which was a weekly must see event for all the family. Since that has gone a lot of younger and older people are unaware of certain new acts, as it is harder to breakthrough unless they appear on the X-Factor.

 

2. The Radio 1 Chartshow. In 1955 the BBC Light Programme introduced Pick Of The Pops its own weekly chart show. This quickly became the most listened to radio show in the country. Indeed when Alan Freeman's Pick Of The Pops transferred to Radio 1 in 1967; it was one of a few shows to be simulcast on Radio 2 as well. Until the 1990s the Chart show was always the most listened to Radio show on the BBC network, as getting the presenting gig was regarded as a major honour, and people cared about the charts. But since 2003 with falling ratings it is clear that the BBC don't care about the charts anymore due to the ramshackle way they are currently presented. Hence the current chart show gets an average 1.6 to 1.7 million listeners on a Sunday compared to Chris Moyles getting over 7.0 million listeners on a weekday morning; when in the past just two decades earlier nearly 11 million were tuning in on a Sunday evening for the new chart to listen to Bruno Brookes countdown the chart.

 

3. The death of the physical single/the rise of downloads. Due to the death of the physical single you are more limited than ever as to what you can physically buy in your local Woolworths; Virgin; Our Price; WHSmiths; HMV. In contrast the rise of the internet and downloads means that a library of music to listen to and buy has never been greater. Hence more people are buying tracks that are old and wont reach the charts; and less are buying tracks that will make the charts in proportional terms. Therefore the singles chart is becoming less relevent.

 

4. The rise of other leisure activities. With music getting cheaper and cheaper, less money is being spent on buying records in real terms than there has been since the late 1950s. This has coincided with the rise of Computer console format; the boom of interest (post 1990 WC/Sky Sports) in Football; and the activities available through the internet.

 

5. Music as an entertainment medium has been badly devalued. Anyone who watched the brilliant BBC4 BAFTA Award winning 3 part documentary on the Post World War II history of popular music will know the strong theme/theory of Part 3 that Stock Aitken & Waterman were the catalyst for music as a medium to shift product by 40 year olds in suits using attractive younger teenagers as their vehicle, as opposed to the classic Beatles; Stones; Bowie; Pink Floyd; Kate Bush; etc ideal that music was an artform and an expression of youth. (the mid 1990s BRIT Pop movement was regarded as the last hoorah, that is now as discredited today as the legacy of Tony Blair once he agreed to invade Iraq). Nearly 10 years on from the first Popstars reality TV show the cancer festered by those parasites Louis Walsh & Simon Cowell has really spread. Hence the UK's biggest popstar today is the fame hungry tabloid friendly talent freezone that is Cheryl Cole. Also thanks to these reality TV shows and to a degree the rise of the internet, the degree of mystique in music has died due to the past decade's obsession of fame. As the music is no longer the key factor it was back in the 1960s/70s/80s; as the sob story/what you were famous for previously/profile in the tabloids/glossy magazines is more important and influential today.

 

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Personally, I think it is no coincidence that the genre of music that is currently most successful is Urban music as that is the genre of music that has been least affected by the five issues I've raised. As it is the genre of music most liked by 15-24 year olds who don't like the X-Factor; and through the UK grime scene going overground and becoming commercial, it is probably the most creative genre at the moment.

 

As an example could you imagine a credible UK Urban/grime act coming through the X-Factor mentored by Louis Walsh. :rofl:

Too much Urban staying too long in top 10 ? Could it be the iTunes affect ? 12 to 20 year olds hitting iTunes and just downloading the top 10 once a month or even every week. Just makes sure they have all the latest most popular tunes on their iPhones/iTouches, keep up with their mates. Was surprised when i heard this from one such 20yr old !! Just a thought ?

 

I see hundreds of people that age, every day, and I don't know anybody who does that. I guess it does happen, but it's probably really rare, as I've never heard of this before.

 

The top 10 does provide extra advertising though, so that does help. But I honestly don't know anybody who's low enough to actually pay for music that they don't like, just because it's in the top 10 on iTunes. Infact, it's quite the opposite amongst the people I associate with. A friend of mine likes listening to Glee music, and he gets completely ridiculed for it. :( Another friend of mine likes listening to 8-bit music (chiptune, etc.), which he can't really get off iTunes, and so on. And I've got another friend who told me that I just listen to "proper" music, and he listed a load of rock groups, most of which I've never heard of, on a piece of paper. I asked him if there were any female amongst those he listed, and he was like "No, but I'm honestly not sexist. This is just coincidence!" :D I think most kids genuinely listen to music that they like. There will be some who do what you said, but I think the amount who do that will be negligible.

Dizzee Rascal = If he's the new Westlife then what a refreshing change. Well, if I had to rank of all Westlife's and Dizzee's singles in order I'm certain that 'Dirtee Disco' would rank higher than 95% of Westlife's dirge. Yes, it's not exactly brilliant but I can tolerate it. At least it doesn't rip off another song (not that I'm aware of :unsure: ). "disco disco disco disco" could well be taken from the 2 Unlimited book of lyrics "techno techno techno techno". If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :D

 

samples Staple Singers 'I'll Take You There' (apparently...) though it certainly is hard to tell...

'Dirtee Disco' is a lazy excuse of a song imo, whatever it's genre, he's done better than this. <_<

 

Personally, I think it is no coincidence that the genre of music that is currently most successful is Urban music as that is the genre of music that has been least affected by the five issues I've raised. As it is the genre of music most liked by 15-24 year olds who don't like the X-Factor

 

OK, I can understand why it appeals to black 15-24 yo's, but not to others in that age group?

My point being BJ as a whole seems to hate urban genres too much.

 

But how much is 'too much'? :unsure:

 

Anyway, the chart show desperately needs improvement, and Reggie needs to be sacked now.

 

No argument whatsoever on that!

I personally like all sorts of music and although it's not a good thing when one genre starts to have such a majority in the charts I don't mind as I know it will change.

 

I think I figured what's going on with this current urban flood...

 

They all know that Kylie's single is out very soon, and are so $h!t-scared of the competition, they had to rush-release... :w00t:

Edited May 26, 201015 yr by vidcapper

2. The Radio 1 Chartshow. In 1955 the BBC Light Programme introduced Pick Of The Pops its own weekly chart show. This quickly became the most listened to radio show in the country. Indeed when Alan Freeman's Pick Of The Pops transferred to Radio 1 in 1967; it was one of a few shows to be simulcast on Radio 2 as well. Until the 1990s the Chart show was always the most listened to Radio show on the BBC network, as getting the presenting gig was regarded as a major honour, and people cared about the charts. But since 2003 with falling ratings it is clear that the BBC don't care about the charts anymore due to the ramshackle way they are currently presented. Hence the current chart show gets an average 1.6 to 1.7 million listeners on a Sunday compared to Chris Moyles getting over 7.0 million listeners on a weekday morning; when in the past just two decades earlier nearly 11 million were tuning in on a Sunday evening for the new chart to listen to Bruno Brookes countdown the chart.

 

3. The death of the physical single/the rise of downloads. Due to the death of the physical single you are more limited than ever as to what you can physically buy in your local Woolworths; Virgin; Our Price; WHSmiths; HMV. In contrast the rise of the internet and downloads means that a library of music to listen to and buy has never been greater. Hence more people are buying tracks that are old and wont reach the charts; and less are buying tracks that will make the charts in proportional terms. Therefore the singles chart is becoming less relevent.

 

4. The rise of other leisure activities. With music getting cheaper and cheaper, less money is being spent on buying records in real terms than there has been since the late 1950s. This has coincided with the rise of Computer console format; the boom of interest (post 1990 WC/Sky Sports) in Football; and the activities available through the internet.

 

5. Music as an entertainment medium has been badly devalued. Anyone who watched the brilliant BBC4 BAFTA Award winning 3 part documentary on the Post World War II history of popular music will know the strong theme/theory of Part 3 that Stock Aitken & Waterman were the catalyst for music as a medium to shift product by 40 year olds in suits using attractive younger teenagers as their vehicle, as opposed to the classic Beatles; Stones; Bowie; Pink Floyd; Kate Bush; etc ideal that music was an artform and an expression of youth. (the mid 1990s BRIT Pop movement was regarded as the last hoorah, that is now as discredited today as the legacy of Tony Blair once he agreed to invade Iraq). Nearly 10 years on from the first Popstars reality TV show the cancer festered by those parasites Louis Walsh & Simon Cowell has really spread. Hence the UK's biggest popstar today is the fame hungry tabloid friendly talent freezone that is Cheryl Cole. Also thanks to these reality TV shows and to a degree the rise of the internet, the degree of mystique in music has died due to the past decade's obsession of fame. As the music is no longer the key factor it was back in the 1960s/70s/80s; as the sob story/what you were famous for previously/profile in the tabloids/glossy magazines is more important and influential today.

 

Good points. In Finland there is no chart show any more..One station has digital songs chart and one has the airplay chart but that's it.

 

Also music is everywhere these days..I don't know if this is the case but seems to me that music is now something you just consume and throw away. -> the catchier the song the more people like it..For that couple of days or weeks.

 

Music geeks have less and less effect on charts which pretty much explains the absence of rock (or guitar pop) music on charts

The popularity of the UK chart is subjctive to the listner.

 

B.o.B. feat. Bruno Mars = Excellent. For me, this is a brilliant track, catchy memorable chorus with a strong melody and very appealing to me. It sounds like it could be Outkast singing but who cares when the song itself is strong.

 

Iyaz = 'Replay' was good. It sounded original and fresh without sounding bloody awful and cringe. 'Solo' rips off 'Again' by Janet Jackson and isn't even half as good as 'Replay'. I don't understand the tracks appeal but there's clearly Americanized British teenagers who all things "like...soooo American". -_-

 

Usher = 'OMG' is crap, imo. Why? Because like 'Solo' it's relied too much on another song ('Boom Boom Pow'). I mean, the first time I heard 'OMG' it was all going ok until I heard the low pitched "let the beat rroooocccckkk". Then I sighed because this was textbook 'BBP'. I didn't even think 'BBP' was that good but at least in 2009 it was different. 'OMG' in 2010 isn't.

 

Jason Derulo = Whilst he has the most bizzare vocals (not as horrid as Chris Brown), I actually think 'Ridin' Solo' is his best song so far. I never got the appeal of 'Whatcha Say' or 'In My Head'. That doesn't mean I think 'RS' is genius because it isn't. It just appeals to me more.

 

Dizzee Rascal = If he's the new Westlife then what a refreshing change. Well, if I had to rank of all Westlife's and Dizzee's singles in order I'm certain that 'Dirtee Disco' would rank higher than 95% of Westlife's dirge. Yes, it's not exactly brilliant but I can tolerate it. At least it doesn't rip off another song (not that I'm aware of :unsure: ). "disco disco disco disco" could well be taken from the 2 Unlimited book of lyrics "techno techno techno techno". If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :D

 

I echo almost all of this, except I still think "OMG" is okay even if I'm very bored by it now. As I speak it's just come on 4music -_-

 

I think the urban dominance is subjective, it's a shame that the kind of people who buy the majority of it regard Tinie Tempah as some kind of musical god when every time I've seen him on TV he seems a lot smarter than any of them. I liked "Pass Out" eventually, I like "Frisky", and he was great with Gorillaz on Jonathan Ross.

 

I'm always going to be disappointed with the charts because although I enjoy a moderation of most genres, my favourite genre is in severe decline and needs a complete kick up the backside. If The Drums are the future of music, God help us :rolleyes: