didnt you read this bit? fxckingfamous qualified what he said perfectly clearly

 

"Because if the subject of the song is dull and uninspiring then the lyrics aren't going to set the world alight (or at least in the case of The Saturdays).If you look at Sound of the Underground, Life Got Cold, The Loving Kind, The Show, Somethin Kinda Ooh, Can't Speak French etc are all intriguing and in turn interest people, whereas Up, Work, Issues etc not so much."

 

and he is SPOT ON the mark. ok the title itself MIGHT not reprisent the content of the track, but compareing the sats lyrics with girls alouds in this case it does. those girls aloud tracks are far better in every way then the sats, who again are not progressing and churning out the same old music (as was said).

 

fans might accept this but again the public wont, and their fanbase isnt big enough to carry them through, so staying inside the mould isnt working. after three years they havnt got the appeal nor success that girls aloud gained, ok i was wrong in suggesting theyd be dropped by now, but tbh its only a question of time if they dont progress.

 

Excuse me, but I have three words that accounted for Girls Alouds later "success"... The. X. Factor.

Until then, their sales were pretty much similar to The Saturdays and the only time they had reached #1 was for charity.

And I'm not a hater, I love Girls Aloud. But we have a thread in this forum with all the sales in and The Saturdays singles' are on par with Girls Aloud sales wise.

For example, all 7 of The Saturdays singles so far have combined sold 1,338,199.

Girls Aloud's first 7 singles have sold 1,553,871 and that's with 2 #1's and a 620,000 selling single..

So until you have the facts to back up your arguments, then please don't bother.

And I stick by what I said, nobody CARES what a song's title is and Girls Aloud's lyrics are (a lot of the time) self proclaimed gibberish.

Edited June 26, 201015 yr by Scherz

Aha, Scherz thanks for using the singles data I cooked up the other week :D

 

didnt you read this bit? fxckingfamous qualified what he said perfectly clearly

 

"Because if the subject of the song is dull and uninspiring then the lyrics aren't going to set the world alight (or at least in the case of The Saturdays).If you look at Sound of the Underground, Life Got Cold, The Loving Kind, The Show, Somethin Kinda Ooh, Can't Speak French etc are all intriguing and in turn interest people, whereas Up, Work, Issues etc not so much."

 

and he is SPOT ON the mark. ok the title itself MIGHT not reprisent the content of the track, but compareing the sats lyrics with girls alouds in this case it does. those girls aloud tracks are far better in every way then the sats, who again are not progressing and churning out the same old music (as was said).

 

fans might accept this but again the public wont, and their fanbase isnt big enough to carry them through, so staying inside the mould isnt working. after three years they havnt got the appeal nor success that girls aloud gained, ok i was wrong in suggesting theyd be dropped by now, but tbh its only a question of time if they dont progress.

 

Oh please. So they're fan base has droped since January when their 6th single has nearly sold 300k? Ha. Doubt it. And stop comparing the 'mighty' GA to The Saturdays on popularity for god sake. We all know now that whenever (if) they come back it'll all be all #1 for a reason, and thats Cheryl, not for the actual band :).

 

I agree with Scherz though. Do your reasearch the next time you want to criticise The Sats.

i love missing you! i cant stop singing it!

Im sorry but I completly fail to see how the title of a song can have any impact on peoples interest in it. Some of those examples are fairly pitiful aswsell, whats so exiting about Life Got Cold.

Other Girls Aloud singles included Jump (Yes. Jump. Judging from the ever so exiting title it must be brilliant) and The Promise (OMG I JUST DIED FROM EXITEMENT).

 

And isnt one of Girls Aloud's biggest critical remarks about how they didnt progress through their first 5 years? :lol:

LOL. Also look at Kelly Clarkson 'My Life Would Suck Without You'. Awful title, for one of the songs of last year :wub: We could go on forever about titles of songs, where the actual titles were $h!t, but the songs have been pretty amazing.

Good god I didn't say Bad song title = bad song, so if you're going through your Itunes looking for examples then there's no point. Plus all the examples you've mentioned aren't good song titles, but they aren't dull either. Life Got Cold at the time was quite unusual, same as The Promise and even Kelly's song (although how that came into discussion I dunno). I just mean that titles like Missing You, Up, Work etc, are boring, doesn't mean I hate the songs etc or that the songs are boring, but it'd be nice for them to be a little different.

 

But surely it's the song itself that people are more interested about? Not the song title? :unsure:

don't really how a song title can be boring, ii mean what else would you call Up?

CLEARLY it should have been called "Lift Off Keep Steady Beat" :P

Or even 'Main Intersection'.

Excuse me, but I have three words that accounted for Girls Alouds later "success"... The. X. Factor.

Until then, their sales were pretty much similar to The Saturdays and the only time they had reached #1 was for charity.

And I'm not a hater, I love Girls Aloud. But we have a thread in this forum with all the sales in and The Saturdays singles' are on par with Girls Aloud sales wise.

For example, all 7 of The Saturdays singles so far have combined sold 1,338,199.

Girls Aloud's first 7 singles have sold 1,553,871 and that's with 2 #1's and a 620,000 selling single..

So until you have the facts to back up your arguments, then please don't bother.

And I stick by what I said, nobody CARES what a song's title is and Girls Aloud's lyrics are (a lot of the time) self proclaimed gibberish.

 

how comparable are those sales figures? downloads now account towards 'official' sales figures as i dont think they did back when g/a started out. i suspect that including early downloads g/a would easily outstrip the sats sales wise.

 

im not sure just how much influence txf has had on g/a, not a big viewer but hasnt cheryl only just done 1 season? so how can that be much of a factor?

 

and yes...in response to your original question, they do appear to have done it again. same old same old, historically acts that dont evolve their sound dont last long. by 7 songs everyone knew who girls aloud were, the same cant be said for the sats.

 

IF they have sacked their manager then thats a good sign, they need someone in control who can exploit their strengths.

how comparable are those sales figures? downloads now account towards 'official' sales figures as i dont think they did back when g/a started out. i suspect that including early downloads g/a would easily outstrip the sats sales wise.

 

im not sure just how much influence txf has had on g/a, not a big viewer but hasnt cheryl only just done 1 season? so how can that be much of a factor?

 

and yes...in response to your original question, they do appear to have done it again. same old same old, historically acts that dont evolve their sound dont last long. by 7 songs everyone knew who girls aloud were, the same cant be said for the sats.

 

IF they have sacked their manager then thats a good sign, they need someone in control who can exploit their strengths.

 

Um, No...

Yes, downloads didn't account but that meant physical sales were much, much higher back then. They're both a lot more of one format and a little of another, so I'd say they equate to around the same.

2010 is Cheryl's third year on The X Factor, meaning she started in 2008. The girls had steady, but not overwhelming sales until 2008. Ask any Girls Aloud fan seeing as you don't seem to be one and are instead spouting sh!t.

And you are quite correct, it only took The Saturdays 2 songs to let everyone know who they were. Find me one person that listens to contemporary pop music that doesn't know Up. You won't find one..

Everyone knew who Girls Aloud were simply because they won the biggest reality TV show at the time and had a massive selling Xmas #1. The Sats didn't have that luxury and have to build themselves a reputation from scrap.

 

And alot of the general public are bound to know Up, Issues, their cover of JCGE and Ego.

sales were incredibly low from about 2004 to when downloads were allowed.

Um, No...

Yes, downloads didn't account but that meant physical sales were much, much higher back then. They're both a lot more of one format and a little of another, so I'd say they equate to around the same.

2010 is Cheryl's third year on The X Factor, meaning she started in 2008. The girls had steady, but not overwhelming sales until 2008. Ask any Girls Aloud fan seeing as you don't seem to be one and are instead spouting sh!t.

And you are quite correct, it only took The Saturdays 2 songs to let everyone know who they were. Find me one person that listens to contemporary pop music that doesn't know Up. You won't find one..

 

 

its all guesswork regarding sales/downloads...of course youd overlooked that bit when you were telling me to 'do my research'...clearly you didnt! so youre bound to 'equate loss of physical sales to the rise in downloads' but in reality, thats a guess and we will never know.

 

so you are saying definitively that the sales of girls aloud records went up from 2008 onwards BECAUSE of cheryl cole on txf... (i thought she had only done 2009... but im not a viewer nor fan). thats a pretty bold statement that cannot be varified or proven. it might just be that recent singles are simply BETTER then older ones.. and cheryl cole has been constantly in the media for the past few years, id suggest that thats also a contributory factor, and not solely down to her being on txf.

 

so id suggest that im not the only one spouting $h!t, because your claims are totally unsupportable being an opinion , not fact.

sales were incredibly low from about 2004 to when downloads were allowed.

 

im not saying that allowing downloads didnt effect physical sales, but downloads were partly allowed BECAUSE they were going on and were not being included in the official sales. we will never know just how many switched to downloads from buying pysical sales, but we DO know that the download sales/illegals are not included in that girls aloud statistic.

im not saying that allowing downloads didnt effect physical sales, but downloads were partly allowed BECAUSE they were going on and were not being included in the official sales. we will never know just how many switched to downloads from buying pysical sales, but we DO know that the download sales/illegals are not included in that girls aloud statistic.

 

I was supporting your statement that had GA released in the same period as TS then GA's sales would be higher.

its all guesswork regarding sales/downloads...of course youd overlooked that bit when you were telling me to 'do my research'...clearly you didnt! so youre bound to 'equate loss of physical sales to the rise in downloads' but in reality, thats a guess and we will never know.

 

so you are saying definitively that the sales of girls aloud records went up from 2008 onwards BECAUSE of cheryl cole on txf... (i thought she had only done 2009... but im not a viewer nor fan). thats a pretty bold statement that cannot be varified or proven. it might just be that recent singles are simply BETTER then older ones.. and cheryl cole has been constantly in the media for the past few years, id suggest that thats also a contributory factor, and not solely down to her being on txf.

 

so id suggest that im not the only one spouting $h!t, because your claims are totally unsupportable being an opinion , not fact.

 

Did you miss the part where I said "SO I WOULD SAY" - I didn't state it as fact like you do in all of your posts.

And sales of Girls Aloud's single and album were dramatically increased because of The X Factor.

Downloads were in effect from when 'Something Kinda Oooh' was released, because I remember it charted the week before on downloads.

The parent album to SKO was the greatest hits and that sold remarkably well, hitting #1 and selling 1,000,000.

However the album that came after it, "Tangled Up", only reached #4 and didn't sell 1 million. So you can not say that the success of the greatest hits contributed to their impressive sales for 'Out Of Control'.

"The Promise" and it's parent album 'OOC' were helped incredibly due to The X Factor and Cheryl's status, this is not spouting $h!t, it is fact. Look at the sales for god's sake.

And it's not as if 'Out Of Control' was an all around better album, because you can ask anyone (fan or music critic) and they will tell you that 'Tangled Up' was far superior musically.

 

So yes indeed, you are just spouting complete and utter bullsh!t and it ends now, as this is The Saturdays forum.

If you want to argue Girls Aloud's sales and popularity even more, even though you have just been told everything you needed to know, then please go there.

Any more off-topic posts in this thread will be deleted.

 

Back to The Saturdays please.

And it's not as if 'Out Of Control' was an all around better album, because you can ask anyone (fan or music critic) and they will tell you that 'Tangled Up' was far superior musically.

I'm a huge GA fan, but I am 1 of about 20 people who prefer OOC to TU :ph34r:

I'm a huge GA fan, but I am 1 of about 20 people who prefer OOC to TU :ph34r:

 

Simply proving that you are in a minority and that many more people prefer TU, no?