September 27, 201014 yr Author -_- Hardly forgotten, and actually shes had 3 hits in America, Happy went Gold, peaked at 11 on US iTunes. She's on the sex and the city soundtrack, she sang the avatar theme song, shes just appeared on stand up to cancer where she performed with stevie wonder..list goes on, so yes i will say she is a megastar as she is. Ambitions was played at the beginning of x factor last night..bit of exposure. Edited September 27, 201014 yr by Breakeven
September 27, 201014 yr -_- Hardly forgotten, and actually shes had 3 hits in America, Happy went Gold, peaked at 11 on US iTunes. She's on the sex and the city soundtrack, she sang the avatar theme song, shes just appeared on stand up to cancer where she performed with stevie wonder..list goes on, so yes i will say she is a megastar as she is. Ambitions was played at the beginning of x factor last night..bit of exposure. Get ur facts right - Happy didn't go gold in the USA. Did you also check the sales of her last album in America?
September 27, 201014 yr Author Yawn, get your facts right, how many copies are needed to be sold to get gold status?
September 27, 201014 yr 1) The video is even worse than the song! 2) Terrible dancing really! Why was he instructed to do all these moves? It looks more like a parody of a video :lol: :rofl: 3) How old is he? Most guys at his age want to look older but he looks like 12y.o.! A cool outfit cannot save him! It was like a school amateur musical (or parade LOL) of lightheaded 12 y.o. kids... 4)I have nothing against Joe but Olly's song (I am not a fan either) was 100 times better.
September 27, 201014 yr Author 1) The video is even worse than the song! 2) Terrible dancing really! Why was he instructed to do all these moves? It looks more like a parody of a video :lol: :rofl: 3) How old is he? Most guys at his age want to look older but he looks like 12y.o.! A cool outfit cannot save him! It was like a school amateur musical (or parade LOL) of lightheaded 12 y.o. kids... 4)I have nothing against Joe but Olly's song (I am not a fan either) was 100 times better. Completely agree, really disapointing, just secures the view that he will have no longevity in music.
September 29, 201014 yr 1) The video is even worse than the song! 2) Terrible dancing really! Why was he instructed to do all these moves? It looks more like a parody of a video :lol: :rofl: 3) How old is he? Most guys at his age want to look older but he looks like 12y.o.! A cool outfit cannot save him! It was like a school amateur musical (or parade LOL) of lightheaded 12 y.o. kids... 4)I have nothing against Joe but Olly's song (I am not a fan either) was 100 times better. Completely disagree. (1) The song is great track. He really never fails to surprise you with he comes out with. Lyrics are chatty, enjoyed the feel good uptempo production and very surprise that his voice can do that; probably one of the most versatile artist around. Joe's is definitely 100 times better than Olly's song. Got really board with Olly's and he couldn't even sing the high bits to his OWN song. (2) The video is very appropriate for the song. Come on. It's a uptempo "happy" song, do you expect - suits and orchestra for a song like that. And Nigel Dick who actually did brilliant videos for songs like this such as "Baby hit me one more time" added the color and life that is about the song. It's no ballad and definitely not boring. (3) He looks AGE APPROPRIATE, which is very important. What do you want him in a suit and not acting like he is 19 years old?!! He is young and a teenage popstar and should be what he is. NOT a Michael Buble copy cut. He is not 30 years old. (4) Glad he actually showed he can move and dance, something that he really wanted to do but didn't really show during X Factor. And, the dancing is not fun and looks like he is enjoying himself. And the choregraphy fits the song and their is nothing "terrible" about it really. (5) Aside, he looks really good in this video, showed his mature youth. As people were saying during X Factor, he does look "gorgeous". Moving away from the "cute" factor to the "sexy" factor. Here is what I mean from the X Factor magazine this week: i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/xJoanne-Jx/IMG_0001-1.jpg i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/xJoanne-Jx/IMG_0002.jpg (6) Joe really has widespread appeal. I am surprise about the different people that like Joe. Girls, mothers, grandmothers, college / older men, etc. And now, he has the gay market. During the ITV evening news with Pam Royle and Ian Payne on Monday, they interview Joe in person and Pam (an older woman (probably a mom)) is like smitten by him and even discusses how she FOLLOWS him on twitter during the news report. LOL! Manchester Key 103 interview with Joe about his album and you can tell his appeal: mediafire.com/?etl2kbyktba5fvo Edited September 29, 201014 yr by jonmove
September 29, 201014 yr Sorry. Here is the insert images: http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/xJoanne-Jx/IMG_0001-1.jpg http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/xJoanne-Jx/IMG_0002.jpg
September 29, 201014 yr Author 1. He's released one song, what do you mean 'never fails to surprise you' :huh: One of the most versatile artists around, are you..okay? 2. The video is awful. 3. He is completely irrrelevant to the music industry right now. 4. He actually showed he CANT move and dance, it is terrible. 5. He's definitely in no way 'sexy' or 'gorgeous'. 6. His fanbase will be nearly non-existent, he wont have any longevity in the music industry, maybe go in to theatre. Sorry 'jonmove' but you seem to be just a massive fan of Joe and not see clearly, okay they're your opinions but not many people will share them, sorry to burst the 'joe obssession buble' you seem to be in. Edited September 29, 201014 yr by Breakeven
September 29, 201014 yr For any Joe fans, HMV is giving away tickets to his performance at HEAVEN. http://hmv.com/hmvweb/navigate.do?ctx=12;1...0_joe_mcelderry
September 29, 201014 yr 1. He's released one song, what do you mean 'never fails to surprise you' :huh: One of the most versatile artists around, are you..okay? 2. The video is awful. 3. He is completely irrrelevant to the music industry right now. 4. He actually showed he CANT move and dance, it is terrible. 5. He's definitely in no way 'sexy' or 'gorgeous'. 6. His fanbase will be nearly non-existent, he wont have any longevity in the music industry, maybe go in to theatre. Sorry 'jonmove' but you seem to be just a massive fan of Joe and not see clearly, okay they're your opinions but not many people will share them, sorry to burst the 'joe obssession buble' you seem to be in. Says the person in the Leona obsessed buble... the words pot kettle and black spring to mind. As for the song, I like it - its uplifting and I couldn't give a toss if it was a cover or not - he's not the first person to release a cover version and wont be the last. I dont mind the video - again it suits the song - the dancing is ok - and its just 1 part of the video. It will be interesting to see how this fairs - It is very radio friendly and no doubt a performance on the X Factor will secure it being number 1. And as for the first comment above - coming from a Leona fan - who has released nothing but ballad after ballad is hilarious.
September 29, 201014 yr 1. He's released one song, what do you mean 'never fails to surprise you' :huh: One of the most versatile artists around, are you..okay? 2. The video is awful. 3. He is completely irrrelevant to the music industry right now. 4. He actually showed he CANT move and dance, it is terrible. 5. He's definitely in no way 'sexy' or 'gorgeous'. 6. His fanbase will be nearly non-existent, he wont have any longevity in the music industry, maybe go in to theatre. Sorry 'jonmove' but you seem to be just a massive fan of Joe and not see clearly, okay they're your opinions but not many people will share them, sorry to burst the 'joe obssession buble' you seem to be in. Ha! 'Joe obsession bubble'? Says the Leona stan clearly desperate to claim that Leona is and will always be the sole 'world megastar' from the X Factor. (Are you being SERIOUS? World megastars are people like Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Britney - those who can do well with ANYTHING they release. Leona has had just ONE big memorable hit in America, no matter what you say about stuff going #11 on iTunes - people don't tend to remember stuff that didn't even make the top ten, particularly when there was a world smashing hit of Bleeding Love proportions before it. Bleeding Love is, for now at least, all that she will be remembered for in America.) I don't really see why by releasing a cover of a song with pretty massive appeal he's 'irrelevant to the music industry right now'. On the contrary, it seems to be you that has no objectivity whatsoever - there are many reviewers who have commented on Joe's looks being appealing, and frankly I don't even know how you can make the claim of number six and expect to be taken seriously this early on before we've even seen how Ambitions does. I'm not even a fan of Joe McElderry's! Credit where credit's due though, Ambitions is the perfect sort of song he should be going with - and it's gotten a pretty damned good reception across the spectrum from people who weren't expecting him to come out with something this good.
September 29, 201014 yr Ha! 'Joe obsession bubble'? Says the Leona stan clearly desperate to claim that Leona is and will always be the sole 'world megastar' from the X Factor. (Are you being SERIOUS? World megastars are people like Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Britney - those who can do well with ANYTHING they release. Leona has had just ONE big memorable hit in America, no matter what you say about stuff going #11 on iTunes - people don't tend to remember stuff that didn't even make the top ten, particularly when there was a world smashing hit of Bleeding Love proportions before it. Bleeding Love is, for now at least, all that she will be remembered for in America.) I don't really see why by releasing a cover of a song with pretty massive appeal he's 'irrelevant to the music industry right now'. On the contrary, it seems to be you that has no objectivity whatsoever - there are many reviewers who have commented on Joe's looks being appealing, and frankly I don't even know how you can make the claim of number six and expect to be taken seriously this early on before we've even seen how Ambitions does. I'm not even a fan of Joe McElderry's! Credit where credit's due though, Ambitions is the perfect sort of song he should be going with - and it's gotten a pretty damned good reception across the spectrum from people who weren't expecting him to come out with something this good. I agree Leona isn't a world megastar (she never has been, maybe a superstar at times), but Better in time was a good sized hit too and always seems to be underrated. It was a huge pop airplay hit and did well sales-wise in the US. Sorry about that, I'm a big Leona fan and I get easily peed off when fans make her out to be some amazing godess, or when people make out she's a one hit wonder. Anyways back to Joe: 1. He's released one song, what do you mean 'never fails to surprise you' :huh: One of the most versatile artists around, are you..okay? 2. The video is awful. 3. He is completely irrrelevant to the music industry right now. 4. He actually showed he CANT move and dance, it is terrible. 5. He's definitely in no way 'sexy' or 'gorgeous'. 6. His fanbase will be nearly non-existent, he wont have any longevity in the music industry, maybe go in to theatre. Sorry 'jonmove' but you seem to be just a massive fan of Joe and not see clearly, okay they're your opinions but not many people will share them, sorry to burst the 'joe obssession buble' you seem to be in. 1. well he was on X-factor in which he was quite good and surprised me a few times 2. I think the video is alright in certain parts and cringey in others, but not awful. Just below average 3. Anyone can be relevant to the music industry with the right material, don't judge him until you hear the album. You could easily say ADELE is irrelevant now because her style of music doesn't fit mainstream music atm, but look at what a little bit of exposure did to "make you feel my love". Being relevant is all a matter of exposure and selling, so you can't make that assumption until he's actually released the single/album to buy. 4. Agreed. 5. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm not a big fan of joe, but I do find him attractive. 6. He will have a good fanbase, but I agree about the longevity. I don't think he'll last, unless he is constantly producing great material relevant to music at the time of release. And theatre isn't bad? Heck there are tons of amazing singers in theatre that never get the recognition they should. Oh and as you said to Jonmove. Those are YOUR opinions. And you cannot speak for "many people" as you are not many people, you are one. Wait for the album then you can judge IMO. Sorry, Leona fans that like bashing other artists is also something that annoys me :huh: Edited September 29, 201014 yr by Envoirment
September 29, 201014 yr Author Sorry, okay reading back the post looks like i really dont like joe, but you know what i do, i actually would like him to do well and he has got a good voice, i'm just disapointed by the song and video, i guess the above post looked like i hated him when i dont. Also why are people talking about leona? Not really sure how she came in to it ps:- she is a worldwide star, not as much a godess as someone else said, but she is a global artist yes. I'm not only a leona fan, i'm a kings of leon, script, justin timberlake list goes ON AND ON, why does everyone seem to pick up on me being a leona fan all the time, yes i am, get over it? "Sorry, Leona fans that like bashing other artists is also something that annoys me" I dont like bashing other artists at all, it actually really irritates me! I criticise the MATERIAL, not the actual artist (the only thing i said was he isnt 'sexy', and i know beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder, but we all know he's not sexy surely, not in any way am i saying he's ugly) , and yes i'm a leona fan but not only a leona fan so why refer to me as a 'leona fan' :huh: Anyway hopefully joe's second song will be better. Edited September 29, 201014 yr by Breakeven
September 29, 201014 yr Sorry, okay reading back the post looks like i really dont like joe, but you know what i do, i actually would like him to do well and he has got a good voice, i'm just disapointed by the song and video, i guess the above post looked like i hated him when i dont. Also why are people talking about leona? Not really sure how she came in to it ps:- she is a worldwide star, not as much a godess as someone else said, but she is a global artist yes. I'm not only a leona fan, i'm a kings of leon, script, justin timberlake list goes ON AND ON, why does everyone seem to pick up on me being a leona fan all the time, yes i am, get over it? "Sorry, Leona fans that like bashing other artists is also something that annoys me" I dont like bashing other artists at all, it actually really irritates me! I criticise the MATERIAL, not the actual artist (the only thing i said was he isnt 'sexy', and i know beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder, but we all know he's not sexy surely, not in any way am i saying he's ugly) , and yes i'm a leona fan but not only a leona fan so why refer to me as a 'leona fan' :huh: Anyway hopefully joe's second song will be better. D/w about it :P I get you now, but you came across a bit agressive is all. Also, sorry about referring you to a Leona fan, I've spent way too much time on her forum :manson: I don't know how she got caught up in this though. :blink: Anyways, I'm on the same wavelength as you. I would like him to do well too, but am not fond of the first single choice. I guess we'll have to wait for the second single? ^_^
September 29, 201014 yr Author D/w about it :P I get you now, but you came across a bit agressive is all. Also, sorry about referring you to a Leona fan, I've spent way too much time on her forum :manson: I don't know how she got caught up in this though. :blink: Anyways, I'm on the same wavelength as you. I would like him to do well too, but am not fond of the first single choice. I guess we'll have to wait for the second single? ^_^ I know, sorry about that i read it back and i guess i understand why people thought it was a bit..much :lol: No worries ^_^ Yeah i'm sure second single will be a lot better (and preferably not a cover, even though personally i dont mind covers that much, some people really hate them and instantly prefer the original and cant be open minded to the fact the original can actually be improved sometimes) Edited September 29, 201014 yr by Breakeven
September 29, 201014 yr I know, sorry about that i read it back and i guess i understand why people thought it was a bit..much :lol: No worries ^_^ Yeah i'm sure second single will be a lot better (and preferably not a cover, even though personally i dont mind covers that much, some people really hate them and instantly prefer the original and cant be open minded to the fact the original can actually be improved sometimes) I'm all for covers, as long as the original has had a shot itself, which in this case it hasn't :( I actually like the song and happy that joe is getting it out there, but also sad that the original won't get much of a chance. Some signature songs of great singers have been covers really. Aretha, Whitney, Mariah, Celine, Leona, Freddie mercury, Elvis and many others have covered songs from time to time and made them great. The only problem I have with joe, is that he really didn't try much with it. It was as if it was just given to him, sang it completely the same as the original. He didn't add much (if anything) to it. Hopefully the X-factor performance will be good. I can see a huge production behind it possibly, which may be awkward... Ah well, guess I'll have to check out the album once it's out ^_^
September 30, 201014 yr Yeah, Breakeven it did sound like you have something against him and people who like him fan or no fan. Reading back, I think you know what you said was wrong so all good. But, I take offensive to your comment about me and can see very clearly as well as other people who like Joe. So don't know what your problem is with people with different opinions. If "fan" means appreciating an artist's talent, learning more about the personality / goals of the artist, being constructive and opinionated about his or her work, and liking who they are as a person, then Yes, I am a "fan" of Joe, which I am very surprise at. Since watching all series of American Idol and past 4 season of X Factor, no artist have made me be a "fan" until Joe. Although I like some of the artist's work that came out of these shows (Kelly, Daughtry), I never would say I am a "fan." But for Joe, watching him and getting to know him, I can say I appreciate his determination to work hard as an artist, his clear love for music, his talent and being a perfectionist, his genuine personality, and in general who he is as a person. Edited September 30, 201014 yr by jonmove
September 30, 201014 yr I don't understand why people keep suggesting Joe is (or could be) a popstar... His voice sounds weird when he tries to sing pop, like child-opera! His intonation too. He CAN sing yes, but pop? Also note this song is not a live recording, it is really adjusted up and down (up mostly). And hell NO he doesn't look 19 (in the video at least). Would you ever act like that when you were 19? He's got a pretty face (athough the last smile in the video really kills it- you would never say 'wow handsome' but 'how cute' instead) but the whole dancing, smiling and moving in the video looks 'elementary school' - Especially the 'parade' part. I feel Joe would have perfectly fitted into disney if he was 6 years younger. Now he is too old for this but still the video and his whole setup (so far) has been so disney-ish. I am curious to see in what musical direction will his management choose to push him. As far as the song quality is concerned I'll simply pass. It is not BAD but it is not good either. Olly's song was better all around (in my opinion) and so was his performance- video dispite the fact Joe can sing much better. When I first saw this video with the dance moves and Joe's exploding smile and happiness I could only think of.... Mary Popins! :lol:
September 30, 201014 yr Sorry. Here is the insert images: http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/xJoanne-Jx/IMG_0001-1.jpg http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/xJoanne-Jx/IMG_0002.jpg Please tell me the caption "The Best Teeth In Britain" is taking the p***, don't like him, his voice lacks character, hate the new single and his Youtube cover of "Love The Way You Lie".
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