No offense Eric, as I generally like your posts and reading your views etc, but how can you not care if the song is a cover? :lol: It just shows laziness and lack of any ideas of your own. That's a big reason why Westlife are so despised by anyone but housewives - well, that and the fact their music is insipid shit. I guess I can understand not caring about sampling somewhat as they can be used fairly creatively at times - though whether Black Eyed Peas use it intelligently is debatable.

 

I think the British urban artists like to sample songs of their youth/when they were growing up. I noticed that Professor Green sampled songs from the same 'era' (INXS in 1987 and Beats International in 1990), for example. Though one does wonder if they like the songs so much why they don't just leave them alone. :lol:

Edited November 6, 201014 yr by superbossanova

Sampling is an ART. A lot of urban artists especially (be it UK or US) tend to freestyle over other popular songs. It's fun to make up their own lyrics to other songs, just for example Professor Green has done it to Billionare, Tinchy to Kickstars, Roll Deep to Telephone, and even today I just heard Trey Songz version of Runaway. OK now not all these songs have been released as full singles, but sampling other songs is the basis for a lot of a lot of songs. Of course the songs normally rely on the sample, just look at Kanye West and Stronger for example...I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as it is done well

Sorry :-) I do like that song 2

 

Wasn't that by Blur? :P

Edited November 6, 201014 yr by vidcapper

Today's main chart bug victims :

 

27. No Love - Eminem & Lil Wayne

52. Airplanes (feat. Hayley Williams of Paramore) - B.o.B (about the 3rd time) :o

65. Barbra Streisand (Original Mix) - Duck Sauce

83. With or Without You - U2

105. Monster (feat. Example) - Professor Green

108. Aretha - Rumer

136. What Do You Got? - Bon Jovi

149. Bed of Roses - Bon Jovi

150. I'm Yours - Jason Mraz

153. Wanted Dead or Alive - Bon Jovi

161. Wonderman (feat. Ellie Goulding) - Tinie Tempah

166. Cry Me a River - Michael Bublé

190. Russian Roulette - Rihanna

192. Empire State of Mind (feat. Alicia Keys) - Jay-Z

 

Nadine really is slumping fast now, #35 at present. :cry:

Edited November 6, 201014 yr by Silver Rocket

Sampling is an ART. A lot of urban artists especially (be it UK or US) tend to freestyle over other popular songs. It's fun to make up their own lyrics to other songs, just for example Professor Green has done it to Billionare, Tinchy to Kickstars, Roll Deep to Telephone, and even today I just heard Trey Songz version of Runaway. OK now not all these songs have been released as full singles, but sampling other songs is the basis for a lot of a lot of songs. Of course the songs normally rely on the sample, just look at Kanye West and Stronger for example...I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as it is done well

 

Going back to this sampling thing, I accidently got onto the iTunes page for Pitbull's new 'Spanish' album called Armando. I have no idea how he managed it but he's sampled 'We No Speak Americano' 'Alors On Danse' 'Show Me Love' & 'Girls' (Beastie Boys), (those are the ones I worked out anyway) I can't make out whether its brilliant or $hit! :lol:

Edited November 6, 201014 yr by Klumzee

Going back to this sampling thing, I accidently got onto the iTunes page for Pitbull's new 'Spanish' album called Armando. I have no idea how he managed it but he's sampled 'We No Speak Americano' 'Alors On Danse' 'Show Me Love' & 'Girls' (Beastie Boys), (those are the ones I worked out anyway) I can't make out whether its brilliant or $hit! :lol:

 

Does the song 'Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor)' sample DJ Otzi? :lol:

Does the song 'Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor)' sample DJ Otzi? :lol:

 

I'd love if it did, but sadly no. Although I do quite like it :kink: It's also not on the album :o

Going back to this sampling thing, I accidently got onto the iTunes page for Pitbull's new 'Spanish' album called Armando. I have no idea how he managed it but he's sampled 'We No Speak Americano' 'Alors On Danse' 'Show Me Love' & 'Girls' (Beastie Boys), (those are the ones I worked out anyway) I can't make out whether its brilliant or $hit! :lol:

 

But that's the thing, I like it when my favourite song gets sampled. When I first heard Alors on danse, and thought it would be impossible for the song to get mainstream success in the UK, I was really hoping someone would at least sample it, or cover it, so it would get success that way. I actually posted my desires in the thread ( http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...t=0&start=0 ), and everybody else was like "No thanks". :lol: And seriously, I have like 10 versions of Alors on danse on my mp3 player now (Kanye West, Lumidee, Erik Hassle, etc.), and I'll need to check out Pitbull's too!

 

I really do not mind when songs get sampled. My favourite genres, such as hip hop and dance/electronica, use sampling quite a bit.

 

The only thing that annoys me is when people who hate sampling go around saying "I love so-and-so. He/she makes great music, and doesn't use samples like your favourite rappers do", when infact, that very artist that they're bigging up also uses samples. I don't have a problem with samples, just when the sampling-haters like artists that use samples, just because the artist isn't as open about it as your average hip hop artist would be. Plus, a lot of pop artists kind of half-sample things. Like they might have an ostinato in their song, which sounds very similar to one in another song, but it's not quite the same, so they can say they didn't use a sample.

 

But I don't know. I do find myself hearing songs, and thinking "That sounds like this other song" so often. I remember, earlier this year sometime, I found the whole of the top 10 on iTunes sounded very familiar to, or full on sampled another song (I think it was back when Gettin' Over You, Alejandro, Commander and The Club Is Alive were all popular?). I remember people thinking I was crazy, because I was saying Gettin' Over You, Commander, OMG and Get Sexy all sounded like Boom Boom Pow. :lol:

Edited November 6, 201014 yr by Eric_Blob

But that's the thing, I like it when my favourite song gets sampled. When I first heard Alors on danse, and thought it would be impossible for the song to get mainstream success in the UK, I was really hoping someone would at least sample it, or cover it, so it would get success that way. I actually posted my desires in the thread ( http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...t=0&start=0 ), and everybody else was like "No thanks". :lol: And seriously, I have like 10 versions of Alors on danse on my mp3 player now (Kanye West, Lumidee, Erik Hassle, etc.), and I'll need to check out Pitbull's too!

 

I really do not mind when songs get sampled. My favourite genres, such as hip hop and dance/electronica, use sampling quite a bit.

 

The only thing that annoys me is when people who hate sampling go around saying "I love so-and-so. He/she makes great music, and doesn't use samples like your favourite rappers do", when infact, that very artist that they're bigging up also uses samples. I don't have a problem with samples, just when the sampling-haters like artists that use samples, just because the artist isn't as open about it as your average hip hop artist would be. Plus, a lot of pop artists kind of half-sample things. Like they might have an ostinato in their song, which sounds very similar to one in another song, but it's not quite the same, so they can say they didn't use a sample.

 

But I don't know. I do find myself hearing songs, and thinking "That sounds like this other song" so often. I remember, earlier this year sometime, I found the whole of the top 10 on iTunes sounded very familiar to, or full on sampled another song (I think it was back when Gettin' Over You, Alejandro, Commander and The Club Is Alive were all popular?). I remember people thinking I was crazy, because I was saying Gettin' Over You, Commander, OMG and Get Sexy all sounded like Boom Boom Pow. :lol:

 

I agree about sampling from favourite songs, then that kind of overrules any other factor about the song, even if it's oozing in un-orgininality :lol: I remember in July? that everyone was predicting Alors On Danse to get #1 in the UK, and I thought it would of had to been something very special to do that well in the UK. Unfortunately it didn't connect with the British :( Although I'm not that crazy about it as you are! The Pitbull version is called something that sounds similar to Guantanamo and is after 'Bon Bon' (the WNSA song). :lol:

 

I find it pretty hard to think that songs sound similar unless there is direct sampling from it, so luckily I feel that the likes of OMG & Commander sound different to everything else. But I am listening to Only Girl (In The World) at the moment and (thinking very deeply about it :lol; ) That it does sound like Commander if you get what I mean? (You probably will!)

Nadine #37 now.

 

Sats' first version is closing a bit to top-10, but the second is at #53 now.

But that's the thing, I like it when my favourite song gets sampled. When I first heard Alors on danse, and thought it would be impossible for the song to get mainstream success in the UK, I was really hoping someone would at least sample it, or cover it, so it would get success that way. I actually posted my desires in the thread ( http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...t=0&start=0 ), and everybody else was like "No thanks". :lol: And seriously, I have like 10 versions of Alors on danse on my mp3 player now (Kanye West, Lumidee, Erik Hassle, etc.), and I'll need to check out Pitbull's too!

 

I really do not mind when songs get sampled. My favourite genres, such as hip hop and dance/electronica, use sampling quite a bit.

 

The only thing that annoys me is when people who hate sampling go around saying "I love so-and-so. He/she makes great music, and doesn't use samples like your favourite rappers do", when infact, that very artist that they're bigging up also uses samples. I don't have a problem with samples, just when the sampling-haters like artists that use samples, just because the artist isn't as open about it as your average hip hop artist would be. Plus, a lot of pop artists kind of half-sample things. Like they might have an ostinato in their song, which sounds very similar to one in another song, but it's not quite the same, so they can say they didn't use a sample.

 

But I don't know. I do find myself hearing songs, and thinking "That sounds like this other song" so often. I remember, earlier this year sometime, I found the whole of the top 10 on iTunes sounded very familiar to, or full on sampled another song (I think it was back when Gettin' Over You, Alejandro, Commander and The Club Is Alive were all popular?). I remember people thinking I was crazy, because I was saying Gettin' Over You, Commander, OMG and Get Sexy all sounded like Boom Boom Pow. :lol:

 

 

'Alors' came up on a French test at school and i hadn't a clue what it meant, then thought on the song:) Still did'nt know, so i wrote 'Gotta' :P

And GOY, Commander, MOG and Get Sexy DO all sound like BBP, just realised:P

Thought i'd put the new releases tonight here before anyone asks:

 

Take That - The Flood

Mcfly ft Taio Cruz - Shine A Light

Pink - Raise Your Glass

My Chemical Romance - Na Na Na

Shayne Ward - Gotta Be Somebody

Chase & Status feat Tempa T - Hypest Hype

Gyptian – Hold You

 

All should go top 40 along with whatever Kylie sings on X Factor on Sunday. The Flood should get the #1 spot :wub:

I can't see Hypest Hype going top 40.

 

It might have done under normal circumstances but it's being given away free on Chase & Status' website. That'll lose it a lot of sales.

 

I hope it does go top 40, it's a return to form for C&S after 'Let You Go' which was slightly disappointing.

My iTunes PEAK Predictions:

 

Take That - The Flood - #1

Mcfly ft Taio Cruz - Shine A Light - #10

Pink - Raise Your Glass - #6

My Chemical Romance - Na Na Na - #33

Shayne Ward - Gotta Be Somebody - #3

 

 

I can't see Hypest Hype going top 40.

 

It might have done under normal circumstances but it's being given away free on Chase & Status' website. That'll lose it a lot of sales.

 

I hope it does go top 40, it's a return to form for C&S after 'Let You Go' which was slightly disappointing.

 

will.i.am put Boom Boom Pow up for free download for a while last year, and that ended up being the biggest song of 2009 in the US, so you never know! :D

I'm going to predict:

 

The Flood - #01

Shine A Light - #03

Raise Your Glass - #06

Gotta Be Somebody - #08

Na Na Na - #18

Hold You - #28

Hypest Hype - #29

'Alors' came up on a French test at school and i hadn't a clue what it meant, then thought on the song:) Still did'nt know, so i wrote 'Gotta' :P

And GOY, Commander, MOG and Get Sexy DO all sound like BBP, just realised:P

 

I wish Alors on danse was popular when I was doing French. I'd've got the teacher to play it to the class. :lol: The only song we translated during GCSE French was this one about a girl who was addicted to coffee. :lol: Definitely one of the funniest, and most ridiculous songs I've ever heard in my life! :o

 

Yeah, Get Sexy and Commander's choruses sounds almost the same as the bit in Boom Boom Pow after Fergie sings "wil.i.am, drop the beat now" (and what a beat it is!).

 

Fergie's bridge in Gettin' Over You is almost identical to her "bridge" in Boom Boom Pow (I'm not sure if it's technically a bridge in the latter, because the rest of the song doesn't follow the traditional verse/chorus structure). They not only have almost the same instrumental, and are sung by the same vocalist, but also both begin with the words "People in the place...".

 

OMG's is the most obvious, as it full-on samples Boom Boom Pow, but the similarities extend a bit more, with the extensive use of autotune. I've seen a couple of mash-ups of the songs on youtube, which demonstrates their similarities well. I also heard a remix of OMG once, on the radio, where the beat from Planet Rock was incorporated into the song. It sounded really good, but I can't find it anywhere on the Internet, so I've only ever heard it once. :( But that's also significant, because Planet Rock is the song that Boom Boom Pow was based off.

 

And there's also another recent song I've heard since then which I thought sounded a little bit like Boom Boom Pow when I heard it, but I can't remember was it is for the life of me. :(

Edited November 6, 201014 yr by Eric_Blob

Thought i'd put the new releases tonight here before anyone asks:

 

Take That - The Flood

Mcfly ft Taio Cruz - Shine A Light

Pink - Raise Your Glass

My Chemical Romance - Na Na Na

Shayne Ward - Gotta Be Somebody

Chase & Status feat Tempa T - Hypest Hype

Gyptian – Hold You

 

All should go top 40 along with whatever Kylie sings on X Factor on Sunday. The Flood should get the #1 spot :wub:

 

I really should post my commentary/predictions here, but ATM they just go to uk.music.charts - I think only Robbie & Chris B are here too.

I think Pink will challenge for a top 3 place personally.

 

I think Pink will be low-ish top 10, it doesn't actually scream out as a hit to me, considering there is stronger acts top 5, likewise for McFly. Shayne Ward might just scrape Top 5, we shall see tomorrow night with his performance on the X Factor results show. MCR top 30 looks ideally for them. Gyptian I don't see the hype myself. Overall Take That will be the next #1 :D