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I heard Dre didn't actually write any of this song either... :\ Wonder why... :unsure:

 

Yeah, I heard Eminem wrote part of Dr. Dre's verse. Infact, apparently he's written a lot of Dr. Dre's lyrics in other songs.

 

However, the only issue is, in Dre's verse in I Need a Doctor, some of the lyrics are about how great Eminem is, so it'd be a bit weird if Eminem wrote that. :lol: Perhaps Dre wrote some of his verse, and Em wrote the rest?

 

A lot of people don't seem to like the song though. Apparently it's not "cool" for rappers to show gratitude to each other. :(

 

About Jessie J, I don't know why its debuted at #1 with so little promotion. I like the song, and the other contender is Grenade, so I'm certainly happy with the outcome, but this is unusual chart behaviour.

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About Jessie J, I don't know why its debuted at #1 with so little promotion. I like the song, and the other contender is Grenade, so I'm certainly happy with the outcome, but this is unusual chart behaviour.

 

It's the future.

Higher now #10. (They've also fixed the crediting)

 

Blind Faith out of the top 10 :( :( :( Ah well, should hopefully stay top 10 officially for a second week

It's the future.

 

:D In the other countries that do this, they tend to have a group of artists who's singles always go to #1 on iTunes, no matter what. In the US, for example, everything that Lil Wayne, Taylor Swift, etc. release goes to #1 on iTunes. In the UK, I guess this would be JLS, Cheryl Cole, and evidently Jessie J.

 

All the artists with big fanbases always go to #1, because their songs can sell a certain amount without no promotion, due to their fans. Less established artists have to climb up the charts, because their songs sell (mainly) due to promotion, if they don't have devoted fans. So maybe artists like, I dunno, Taio Cruz, might struggle more this way.

 

This is based from what I've seen in other countries though. It could be different in the UK. But I think of all those songs that flopped, and then we all go "Well, they had no airplay, nobody knew about them", then this gets #1, on barely any airplay at all, and like 3 days after its video premieres.

:D In the other countries that do this, they tend to have a group of artists who's singles always go to #1 on iTunes, no matter what. In the US, for example, everything that Lil Wayne, Taylor Swift, etc. release goes to #1 on iTunes. In the UK, I guess this would be JLS, Cheryl Cole, and evidently Jessie J.

 

All the artists with big fanbases always go to #1, because their songs can sell a certain amount without no promotion, due to their fans. Less established artists have to climb up the charts, because their songs sell (mainly) due to promotion, if they don't have devoted fans. So maybe artists like, I dunno, Taio Cruz, might struggle more this way.

 

This is based from what I've seen in other countries though. It could be different in the UK. But I think of all those songs that flopped, and then we all go "Well, they had no airplay, nobody knew about them", then this gets #1, on barely any airplay at all, and like 3 days after its video premieres.

 

Well said Eric Bob. Intelligent post :)

 

I agree with the massive fan driven acts, they will benefit quickly but that may be front loaded. Songs which gradually rise like "Do It Like A Dude" has done could see higher sales in the long run :)

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It's the future.

Are you forgetting that:

 

Lady Gaga only debuted at #14 with Bad Romance

Black Eyed Peas only debuted at #11

Britney Spears only debuted at #6

 

All after being released early. And these are all MEGA acts, so chances are it probably won't be the future. Although maybe I'm wrong. One thing that will be different is that they wouldn't be held back by front-loaded releases with bigger sales, but Britney still only sold like 30-something k (can't remember how much exactly) which probably wouldn't have got her to #1 in any climate really.

 

I'm not sure how Jessie J has done it really though - surprised me (and a lot of other people, clearly). Probably releasing the video right before helped, I guess, plus the song has technically been receiving some airplay for like a month or more now...

 

Also, I wonder how much social networking would make a difference? British acts would be more likely to "encourage" their followers to download the song via Twitter, than American acts who probably won't even do anything. I don't know really. Do you guys think it could make a difference for Brits?

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^ Yeah, Price Tag got its radio premiere on New Years Day during the year-end Big Top 40 Show. I heard the remix featuring Devlin on Radio 1Xtra, but other than that, I've not heard it at all. But yes, radio stations have had the song for a month now, so perhaps some stations I never listen to might've been playing it. So, I've heard it twice in a month, which is something I suppose.

 

Also, I wonder how much social networking would make a difference? British acts would be more likely to "encourage" their followers to download the song via Twitter, than American acts who probably won't even do anything. I don't know really. Do you guys think it could make a difference for Brits?

 

Perhaps. It was like what Adele was saying on Radio 1 on Sunday. She met Bruno Mars, told him that he beat her to #1, and he had no idea, apparently! :o British artists care a lot more, evidently. I guess if you're mainstream in the US, the smaller countries such as the UK are more of an added bonus, than anything.

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Obviously acts will have to think about making sure the music video is made to coincide with the radio premiere. waiting is just ridiculous and losses interest.
I really think Jessie's mainly selling off the hype this week rather than any bits and pieces of airplay she may have already had. She's literally been everywhere for the past month and a bit - people are likely to be interested in any whiff of new material, and 99p isn't too much to pay for the privilege to feel that you're first to hear the new song by the new big promising artist, especially coming out whilst Do It Like A Dude is still fairly huge.

I think Jessie's song is so successful not only because of the hype - but the video was released only few days ago. It's a golden triangle: hype+airplay+video play.

 

UK iTunes Popularity Bars

 

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Britney Spears has fallen loads

 

21 :o

 

Hope it climbs with the video and album announcement.

Britney will be fine. But the lag between radio and video premiers is too big. They needed to co-inside it better. She will lose some momentum because of it.

 

And I'm very glad how Noah and the Whale are doing! :o Hopefully top-20 for them after all.

Invincible has really divebombed :(

 

Really glad Enrique is smashing it! Hopefully top 4 for him at the end of the week :)

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^ Yeah, Price Tag got its radio premiere on New Years Day during the year-end Big Top 40 Show. I heard the remix featuring Devlin on Radio 1Xtra, but other than that, I've not heard it at all. But yes, radio stations have had the song for a month now, so perhaps some stations I never listen to might've been playing it. So, I've heard it twice in a month, which is something I suppose.

Perhaps. It was like what Adele was saying on Radio 1 on Sunday. She met Bruno Mars, told him that he beat her to #1, and he had no idea, apparently! :o British artists care a lot more, evidently. I guess if you're mainstream in the US, the smaller countries such as the UK are more of an added bonus, than anything.

I think most artists care about their own country the most, regardless of how little or big they are. Even Adele said on Newsbeat the other day that nothing compares to doing well in your own country, and that's someone who has actually tasted success over in the US. Although someone like Natasha Bedingfield seems to prefer US success, giving how she's totally f***ed off and left us now. I guess every country has its runts of the litter.

 

I do think British artists could benefit from this more though regardless, as they're more likely to try to do anything to get their releases up (maybe like releasing the video at the same time as Jessie J did), whilst American acts will just release it at the same time as they do on US iTunes and do nothing apart from that. Plus in America they never release their singles on Sundays it seems, but more in the middle of the week or Monday/Tuesday so obviously they'll lose sales there. Although maybe they'll start releasing their singles on Sunday here once this scheme really sets into place, but right now most American early releases seem to be all over the week! Whereas British acts will probably wisely release on the Sunday to get the full sales week advantage.

 

So we could still potentially see the same kind of trend we saw in 2010 with front-loaded British #1s, perhaps, and then American long-runners. I'm just speculating though, to be fair, but it makes sense to me.

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I think Jessie J is just really being managed well and has the timing right, as I said in the predictions thread, the fact that she's been announced as Sound of 2011 and critic's choice which is still fresh in peoples minds as its still only early February, and the hype can only get bigger when the BRIT awards air which give her more publicity in two weeks time- and of course, the video has just started showing on music channels

 

similar case with DILAD, promoted a lot more than other 'buzz' singles by 'sound of..' acts (it actually made the top 40) and as the list if sound of 2011 and the critics choice award announced conveniantly, she comes more and more into the public eye and therefore got her a number 2 hit- you really have to hand it to her label, they clearly know what their doing here

 

its where Little Boots went wrong really- they just waited too long and hoped that it would sell on hype, hence why she ended up severely disappointing

 

if you're an artist and you're very hyped up, you can't wait- its now or never really- its why this new airplay rule will be very beneficial to some artists

 

anyways :P S&M moving very quickly- I think all this controversy is only working in its favour atm, I've noticed Neon Trees is climbing- we could get another indie band in the top 40 on sunday :o

 

 

 

I can't believe how much of a lead Bruno still has over the others inside the top 10! (Barring Jessie J obviously :P)

 

 

I've now finally heard 'Price Tag', and I find it more tolerable than DILAD, apart from the bit between about 1:50 & 2:20, for the same reason I only liked certain parts of 'Airplanes'... ;)

 

I'm surprised at the way her sales are going, though - normally a #1 pulls out a big initial lead, then gets reeled in later in the week - but JJ's lead just seems to keep increasing... :huh:

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Britney Spears has fallen loads

 

21 :o

 

Hope it climbs with the video and album announcement.

 

Unless she's stark naked in the video :naughty: , I don't think she's going to turn this around.

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